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    For those of you that have inflated a Spyder tire using a Co2 cartridge ….. What size did you use and how many cartridges did it take.….. This seems like the way to go, instead of having to carry an air compressor ….. Even the smallest ones take up a bit of space, and can & do break ….. Not so with a cartridge ……….Thanks Mike ……..Happy New Year

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    I have considered this but never did it yet, why not simply adapt a few added fittings, some electrical to override the system and use the Spyders onboard compressor.

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    Mike
    You could probably pick up a larger Co2 tank (like the ones used by all of those paintballers), and adapt that to the task...
    It would save on carrying a whole bunch of those little ones!
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    It will take 4-6 cartridges to fill the tire depending on the size of tire. About 4-5 psi per cartridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel The Biker View Post
    It will take 4-6 cartridges to fill the tire depending on the size of tire. About 4-5 psi per cartridge.
    So this will all depend on your choice of tire pressures? I smell a heated debate coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    So this will all depend on your choice of tire pressures? I smell a heated debate coming!
    I would think that if you are having to use a co2 catridge, it is a sort of emergency situation. If that is the case, you only need enough psi to make the tire roundish again. 10 would be plenty enough to do that. I had a nail in the rear of my M109 tire and the psi was down to 5. Normal pressure on that is 42 (not as much of a debate as it seems to be on here for a spyder tire). But with 5 psi, I had enough to make it home safely.
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    Mike,
    look at bike sales places like JP Cycles or big Bike parts they have a kit with two large cylinders and valve adapters.
    Comes in compact carry case. Might not fully in flate rear tire but should be enough to get you out of trouble.
    Happy New Year
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowperil View Post
    Mike,
    look at bike sales places like JP Cycles or big Bike parts they have a kit with two large cylinders and valve adapters.
    Comes in compact carry case. Might not fully in flate rear tire but should be enough to get you out of trouble.
    Happy New Year
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    Thanks for the responses ......To answer all the above ……. Yes this will be for emergency use ie. after fixing a flat ….. I agree, I will only need to pressure the tire enough to get to a gas station ….. I found a valve for $3.75 delivered and Co2 20gram cartridges for $3.00 ea ..delivered ………………. Now I want to know How Many and What size someone used to actually do this …….Thanks again All ….. Mike

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    My BMW came with 3 cartridges in the tool kit. I would think any BMW dealer would have them. If I remember correctly, size was about 3 1/2" - 4" long and a diameter of about an index finger. I know this isn't the best description, but at the moment, it's all I got. cueman

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    On my bikes I carried this, used once it worked very well although I didn’t have to use CO2 cartridge due to someone having portable air compressor

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    I used to carry a CO2 cartridge repair kit, the one time I needed it the first patch didn't seal the tire and by the time I realized it I didn't have enough cartridges to fill it up. I use a small elec pump now.
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    IMO, if one chooses to use a CO2 system one should also factor in the number of cartridges some extras that may have to be expended in hunting for and finding the leak before one plugs it. Based on decades of bicycling and many tens of thousands of miles I also would not give up carrying another source of air. I've been on a number of rides wherein a rider with a pump bailed out another who ran into the, "aw, my CO2 system failed" problem. Carrying enough cartridges to just get it round enough may be unwise if the nearest location of an air pump is big double or triple digit miles away, like on US-285 in NM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBros View Post
    IMO, if one chooses to use a CO2 system one should also factor in the number of cartridges some extras that may have to be expended in hunting for and finding the leak before one plugs it. Based on decades of bicycling and many tens of thousands of miles I also would not give up carrying another source of air. I've been on a number of rides wherein a rider with a pump bailed out another who ran into the, "aw, my CO2 system failed" problem. Carrying enough cartridges to just get it round enough may be unwise if the nearest location of an air pump is big double or triple digit miles away, like on US-285 in NM.
    Oh yeah...Sit, watch and wait as the rider or sometimes tandem bicycle team tries to repair a flat tire. Sometimes I just watch, other times just refuse be waiting 20 minutes as the person fumbles around. Always exciting watching another person blow the tire right off the rim.

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    Default Here's what I carry...

    I carry the mushroom plug kit that comes with two large capasity co2 shots and a couple extra. I have never had to use it but did back home on the off road vehicles and they worked fine. Two will get you off the ground keep the others in case or if the next station is close use a bit more... you know we grew up using a good old fashion hand pump and got us out of trouble many times.....
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    Sounds like a good idea to practice the procedure before actually needing to do it. Then you will know how many cartridges to make sure you have with you.

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    Mike, where did you find the valves and cartridges for that price?

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    IMG_9195.jpg screw the CO2 carry your active membership card & the cell phone you probably already have, & roadside assistance can be on the way with fix & or tow if more is needed, definitely smaller to carry possibly cheaper too&ALL the other PERKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMK View Post
    Oh yeah...Sit, watch and wait as the rider or sometimes tandem bicycle team tries to repair a flat tire. Sometimes I just watch, other times just refuse be waiting 20 minutes as the person fumbles around. Always exciting watching another person blow the tire right off the rim.
    It's really a side show with tandem teams, twice as many kibitzers -- been there, done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfromla View Post
    IMG_9195.jpg screw the CO2 carry your active membership card & the cell phone you probably already have, & roadside assistance can be on the way with fix & or tow if more is needed, definitely smaller to carry possibly cheaper too&ALL the other PERKS
    Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer!

    My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer!

    My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply!
    And don't forget the Alaska boonies. Soon, we will be 1000 miles from the nearest dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    And don't forget the Alaska boonies. Soon, we will be 1000 miles from the nearest dealer.
    Yeah, BRP needs to reevaluate their criteria for dealerships in lesser populated regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Great idea, unless you're out in the middle of the dessert in NM, ID, AZ, WY, or who knows how many other places 100 miles from civilization, let alone a m/c or tire dealer!

    My thought about CO2 vs compressor. One has a limited supply for replenishment. The other has an unlimited supply!
    Here's ( to me anyway ) the most important thing about using Co2 cartridges. It's for Emergency use ONLY. I've been driving 100's of various veh's during my 71 yrs of life ( maybe 3,000,000 miles )….. I have had only ….. ONE .…. flat tire ..… ( I shouldn't have said this because I'll immed. get one ) … and you aren't always near a " service area " …… I'm NOT saying this is the best idea only that it is an idea that to me is a sensible alternative ….. Thanks … Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtotten View Post
    Mike, where did you find the valves and cartridges for that price?

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    I sent you a PM with the best prices I found ( with free shipping ) …… Mike

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    You could also use the onboard compressor if you have an RT with compressor built in. Just need a hose to attach under the seat and to the tire. Leave bike running and in gear with brake on. It will fill your tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel The Biker View Post
    You could also use the onboard compressor if you have an RT with compressor built in. Just need a hose to attach under the seat and to the tire. Leave bike running and in gear with brake on. It will fill your tire.
    I don't have that option …………. Thanks …. Mike

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