Tools needed for Ryker wheel change

[QuasiMotard]

So, is there a conclusion here regarding the correct socket and where to get one at a reasonable price?

The BRP unit is linked above. Just throw that part number into your favorite search engine or parts outlet (e.g. PartZilla) to see who has the best price. At ~$140-160, "reasonable" is a relative term for sure. I'll be purchasing that one for my toolbox because I know that it will fit our fancy F1-racer-boy-wannabe wheel nuts. I don't mind having the right tool for the job, but I'd prefer not to have to lube up... personally, that is.

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QM

[jcthorne]

The faces are not curved. They are flat.

[old Timer]

Again, a stupid question...............But has anyone stopped by a Spyder dealer and looked at their official tool to see what it actually is??????

If so, I would suggest that your dealer has and is using the proper Can Am recommended tool and is not trying to get by with a standard 65 mm socket if in fact the official socket is different. Check to make sure.

[jcthorne]

The photos above ARE the BRP provided tool, complete with the part numbers stamped into it. Its a 65mm hub nut socket. Same as Ford and Iveco use.

[BajaRon]

As promised (though a bit late), I have tried the 12 point, 65mm socket I got off of eBay on the Ryker nuts. I used a larger Zip-Lock baggie to protect the nut from the socket. I am happy to say that the socket works just fine!

Here is a link to the socket I purchased from eBay. The seller is in the UK and it's the least expensive one I have found of decent quality. It is surprising that you can get one from the UK for less than a US seller. This one is about $22.65 delivered.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...1GWQNWgA3muKiQ

Here is a US based vendor for the same socket. This one is $42.65 delivered.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...1GWQNWgA3muKiQ

Have fun!

[Tslepebull]

Thanks BajaRon, just ordered mine.

[RykerUSA]

What a coincidence, mine just arrived in the mail yesterday from the UK. Now I need to figure out where to secure this thing on my new Tricycle. It is rather large. Maybe zip tie and somewhere in the engine compartment out of the way.

[Highwayman2013]

They are hard to find.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Anybody seen this from Sears? https://www.sears.com/craftsman-36-m...3&blockType=G3

Wrong size! The Ryker nut is 65 mm.

[Highwayman2013]

Oops!

[Highwayman2013]

Wrong size! The Ryker nut is 65 mm.

Brain fart, sorry.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Brain fart, sorry.

Understand! I don't know how many times I clicked on 36 mm sockets instead of 65 mm!

[RykerUSA]

I received my socket from the UK. It is quite sizeable and heavy. In fact, it probly exceeds the weight capacity of the glove compartment. What's a guy to do?

[Tslepebull]

I received my socket from the UK. It is quite sizeable and heavy. In fact, it probly exceeds the weight capacity of the glove compartment. What's a guy to do?

I haven't checked for size yet but what about something like this?
https://www.aerostich.com/waterproof....html?___SID=U

[WilliamTRyker]

I haven't checked for size yet but what about something like this?
https://www.aerostich.com/waterproof....html?___SID=U

That looks awesome. Any idea where to mount something like this on the Ryker? Could you get the torque wrench and snap ring pliers you'd need in there too?

[cueman]

No way on the torque wrench. cueman

[WilliamTRyker]

No way on the torque wrench. cueman

Guess I'll have to carry the wrench on my back in a sling!

[jcthorne]

I haven't checked for size yet but what about something like this?
https://www.aerostich.com/waterproof....html?___SID=U

The socket would never fit in that. Not even close.

[WilliamTRyker]

The socket would never fit in that. Not even close.

Is the socket as big as a camera lens? if so, would an external camera lens bag fit?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352539436110

[BajaRon]

The socket isn't going to do you any good without a 250 lb. ft. torque wrench. And many torque wrenches are not designed to remove (backwards torque). I may take it on long trips in case a wheel removal is needed. But those removing the wheel will need to supply the wrench to turn it.

I also had to get one of these since my torque wrench is 1/2" and the socket drive is 3/4".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-3-8-1-2...72.m2749.l2648

[WilliamTRyker]

And many torque wrenches are not designed to remove (backwards torque).

So, are you saying that something like this won't be able to remove the wheel?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-50...DTWA/205914009

[Tslepebull]

I am planning to use a 3/4" breaker bar to remove the nut and this to torque it back. https://www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-3...-300498841-_-N

[BajaRon]

So, are you saying that something like this won't be able to remove the wheel?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-50...DTWA/205914009

I am just saying you can't take for granted that your torque wrench is designed to break loose a 220 lb. ft. nut in the counter clock-wise direction. Some manufacturers will say not to turn the torque wrench with much force in the counter clock-wise direction. Some will say you can break things loose but you can't get accurate torque values in the counter clock-wise direction (which is not needed in this application). And some wrenches are specifically designed to remove and torque accurately in both directions for both left and right handed threads. These tend to be your high end wrenches.

The torque wrench you have linked here has a switch lever for reversing the ratchet. But this does not guarantee it is designed to be used to break loose a 220 lb. ft. torqued nut. You want to be sure not to use a torque wrench in any way that might disturb calibration. And you want to use the torque wrench as designed or your torque value will be inaccurate. For example. Torque values are calibrated for applying force near the center of the handle area. Applying force only at the end of the handle or using a cheater bar on a torque wrench can give you very inaccurate readings.

Torque wrenches can be very reliable tools. They just take a bit more care in use and storage than the average ratchet wrench.

I am planning to use a 3/4" breaker bar to remove the nut and this to torque it back. https://www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-3...-300498841-_-N

This is exactly what I plan to do. Though I've found I will need a cheater bar on my breaker bar to make the job easier. I also need a lot of heft on my torque wrench to get to 220 lb. ft. of torque. I suggest getting the longest torque wrench you can find. Even a few inches will make a difference.

The torque wrench you have listed is 3/4" drive so it will not need the 1/2" to 3/4" adapter that mine requires for the socket.

[WilliamTRyker]

So, I was looking at this breaker bar, but do we really need 3 1/2 feet leverage to remove the nut?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Capri-To...0124/308332063

[cueman]

I can just lean on a torque wrench to get to 225# and have more in reserve. cueman