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Good for them! Maybe not my paint style, but I like the chrome much better than all the painted plastic on mine! 
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 Originally Posted by Desert Spyder
If we are truly a unique culture, which we are, then perhaps we should collectively back a favorite charity. But thats another thread.
THERE YA GO!! Lets all sell our spyders (except me, of course) and donate the money to my..oops I mean our favorite charity..my bank account!!
I ll have the one and only Spyder on Grand Camen Island! 
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Originally Posted by wyliec
My opinion is everyone's Spyder is an extension of themselves. So, you can believe all you want that you are not attacking someone personally; jmo.
Wow...if someone says something about my bike, I just smile...who cares...if someone gets offended, then they're taking themselves and their bike a little too seriously.
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Originally Posted by Desert Spyder
Sinful??!! Let's face it, we are ALL wasting good money in this poor economy for a toy to feed our mid-life crisis. And I'm loving it! Every dime we put in modifications, paint, chrome, gadget, wardrobe, et al, is non-budgeted.
If we are truly a unique culture, which we are, then perhaps we should collectively back a favorite charity. But thats another thread.
I'm all for the charity thing...many could benefit from all the money spent on unnecessary mods for our bikes...but then the sponsors would get a little testy!
Charity is very important and we should all do our part, whether as a group, or individually...
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I have to agree with Deb. Comments should be constructive. That being said, if you have a radical modification done and decide to post it anywhere, you have to expect some grief.
As someone who has been there, I can tell you it sucks to dump all that money and man hours into an idea to have it trashed in just a sentence or two. You guys cut me some clack because you know me but the other forum provided no such leeway. I doubt I'll be back there as a result and as Deb said, this owner isn't likely to make a home here either.
I like the swing arm work personally. The paint is a little busy though and ads on Spyders are a  to me. It screams "dealer bike" to me. I'm always partial to bikes that are ridden- not trailered a block away to be ridden to the show.
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Originally Posted by daddydarko
I have to agree with Deb. Comments should be constructive. That being said, if you have a radical modification done and decide to post it anywhere, you have to expect some grief.
As someone who has been there, I can tell you it sucks to dump all that money and man hours into an idea to have it trashed in just a sentence or two. You guys cut me some clack because you know me but the other forum provided no such leeway. I doubt I'll be back there as a result and as Deb said, this owner isn't likely to make a home here either.
I like the swing arm work personally. The paint is a little busy though and ads on Spyders are a to me. It screams "dealer bike" to me. I'm always partial to bikes that are ridden- not trailered a block away to be ridden to the show.
DD,
Our world is too PC as it is...everyone who comments is doing just that...commenting...
I would rather have honesty than a bunch of 'yes men/women'...those who nod their heads at whatever someone says or does...it makes for a more constructive discussion.
Many here throw ideas around...most are awesome...some are not...if people want opinions, they're gonna get them...and that's the way it should be...
In this case, the owner didn't post the pics...someone else did...but, it's open for discussion and hence open for comments...
So be it...no harm is meant by anyone here (I hope)...we all love our spyders and what we do to them to make them unique...if someone is comfortable with themselves, and I guess their spyder, what someone else says shouldn't matter...following this thread, all comments are about the bike, not about the owner...this is fair game, IMHO...
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Originally Posted by bone crusher
DD,
Our world is too PC as it is...everyone who comments is doing just that...commenting...
I would rather have honesty than a bunch of 'yes men/women'...those who nod their heads at whatever someone says or does...it makes for a more constructive discussion.
Many here throw ideas around...most are awesome...some are not...if people want opinions, they're gonna get them...and that's the way it should be...
In this case, the owner didn't post the pics...someone else did...but, it's open for discussion and hence open for comments...
So be it...no harm is meant by anyone here (I hope)...we all love our spyders and what we do to them to make them unique...if someone is comfortable with themselves, and I guess their spyder, what someone else says shouldn't matter...following this thread, all comments are about the bike, not about the owner...this is fair game, IMHO...
The forum/IM mentality begets bad etiquette. We stop being empathetic, thoughtful humans in favor of being horribly honest behind the veil of anonymity.
The owner did not post those pics and probably doesn't come here. But one day he might. I'm only saying we should take a few extra seconds to be honest AND constructive.
"That's ugly" or ":barf" only speaks to the lack of creativity and humanity of the commenter while saying nothing of any use/value to the poster.
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Originally Posted by daddydarko
I have to agree with Deb. Comments should be constructive. That being said, if you have a radical modification done and decide to post it anywhere, you have to expect some grief.
As someone who has been there, I can tell you it sucks to dump all that money and man hours into an idea to have it trashed in just a sentence or two. You guys cut me some clack because you know me but the other forum provided no such leeway. I doubt I'll be back there as a result
James, that is your decision to make, but I think everyone here should understand that the responses to your machine on "the other forum" were overwhelmingly positive, and it was only one or two posters who were negative about it. 
I agree with what Deb said as well. Flaming someone because you don't like what they have done to their Spyder is not constructive. When I see a mod that I don't care for, I simply refrain from posting anything.
Regards,
Bruce
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Originally Posted by Director
When I see a mod that I don't care for, I simply refrain from posting anything.
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Originally Posted by daddydarko
The forum/IM mentality begets bad etiquette. We stop being empathetic, thoughtful humans in favor of being horribly honest behind the veil of anonymity.
The owner did not post those pics and probably doesn't come here. But one day he might. I'm only saying we should take a few extra seconds to be honest AND constructive.
"That's ugly" or ":barf" only speaks to the lack of creativity and humanity of the commenter while saying nothing of any use/value to the poster.
So, lemme get this straight...if someone says positive things, we're good to go...everyone is happy.
If someone says something negative, it should not be said at all as it might offend someone?
Also, I would hardly call the forum a place for 'creativity and humanity'...it's a chat board, for Pete's sake...those who write 'that's ugly', 'fugly' or whatever, are simply commenting...they have a right to do so...
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Originally Posted by Director
Flaming someone because you don't like what they have done to their Spyder is not constructive. When I see a mod that I don't care for, I simply refrain from posting anything.
Regards,
Bruce
I agree. If I see something I don't like I either don't say anything about it or will state in so many words, "it's not my cup of tea but congrats on getting what you wanted" (unless its a jeuchler post, then I'll be brutally honest ). Personally, I don't care for some of the heavy or overstated spider themes but I don't rip those Spyders up in my comments. The person who owns it must like it that way and I respect that.
Former Happy Spyder Owner
Just decided it was time to move onto other things.
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Main Entry:tact  Pronunciation: \ˈtakt\ Function:noun Etymology:French, sense of touch, from Latin tactus, from tangere to touch — more at tangentDate:1797 1 : sensitive mental or aesthetic perception <converted the novel into a play with remarkable skill and tact> 2 : a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense
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I like to keep things simple. Either " I like it" or "It aint for me".
Now, if I was still boozin'..."WHO THE $%&*%%** SHLAUGHTERED THAT ShPYDER WITH THAT $%&&^^%!@@ PAINT SHLOB??"
Of course,30 years ago, there were no internet forums, so I would probably get knocked to the ground after making my opinion public!
On the other hand.. every coin has two sides. Side no. 2:
If one puts his/her pride and joy out there for everyone to see, one must be prepared for any negative comments, especially if what is out there is of a radical design.
I ve been tempered to critisism by working heavy construction all my life.Working with these fellow bozos, there isnt much I havent endured. This also comes with age and the slowing down of testosterone production ( says wifey)
/etiquette lesson
I agree with DD. Its something that probably wont be ridden much.
Keep it light and enjoy your day!
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Is it really that serious? 
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Originally Posted by SSR
Is it really that serious?
no. I m bored
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Originally Posted by bone crusher
So, lemme get this straight...if someone says positive things, we're good to go...everyone is happy.
If someone says something negative, it should not be said at all as it might offend someone?
Also, I would hardly call the forum a place for 'creativity and humanity'...it's a chat board, for Pete's sake...those who write 'that's ugly', 'fugly' or whatever, are simply commenting...they have a right to do so...
"It is better wither to be silent, or to say things of more value than silence. Sooner throw a pearl at hazard than an idle or useless word; and do not say a little in many words, but a great deal in a few."
Pythagoras
Last edited by daddydarko; 06-09-2009 at 11:12 AM.
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I've always been fascinated by sharks...esp. land sharks...better than glow in the dark blue handlebars...but, that's just me. 
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The guy that customized that bike also did my bike. That was what the owner wanted so thats what he got. As you can see from my photos for the new Black Widow, I don't really care for chrome but a lot of people love it. The way we customize our bikes really is an extension of you, so it is what you like. No one else has to live with it but you, so make yourself happy.
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I'm afraid that I agree that comments do not have to be "brutally honest." There is a polite way to say that you don't care for things someone else has done. I don't think any of the comments here really rose to the level of flames, but they were not sugar-coated, either. A little tact can go a long way to making new friends feel at home here. A quick look in the mods section will show you that we all have different tastes and styles. Let's all try to remember that.
As a frequent bike show head judge, I run into the question of personal taste quite often. I tell my fellow judges to remember that the workmanship is what counts, not a judge's personal taste or even his opinion of artistic interpretation. "Is what was done, done well?" "Does the custom work fit the vehicle." Those are the key questions, not "Do you like chrome or advertising?" (End of rant.)
-Scotty 
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Originally Posted by Firefly
Reminds me of the 'ugly baby' Seinfeld episode-----  .
People say things online that they never would in person and you can never really read a persons 'tone' online. Never take anything too seriously - especially online!
If I saw a fugly bike in person I certainly wouldn't say so to the person - I would kindly wait until they were gone and then comment behind his back to my friends about the gross unsightliness. 
What if you saw a fugly person with a nice looking bike?
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place in my book nice 
