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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    Not afraid to reply. I'm a progressive.

    Still don't understand what the fuss is about.
    You're wasting your time trying to fight against those with off the charts cognitive dissonance.... all the rational talk and fact sharing in the world won't change some minds.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus Aranea View Post
    This country that I love and have defended my entire life (from military dependent, to military retiree, to retired DoD contractor) has really gone to hell in a hand-basket when it comes to redistributing everything. I always was of the belief that everyone pays their taxes, from personal to corporate. That funds the country in order to "in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity." When you actually look at the legal breakdown of the terms, as defined by the original authors and later the Supreme Court - no where does it state that we the citizens have to pay for others to live or immigration in any form. Nor does is say that any persons or corporate wealth should be purposefully redirected or redistributed. BUT - that is what has happened and will continue to happen. As long as the citizens voices are either non-existent or muted by other, or they are just too stupid to see what is really happening - this will continue.

    Think about this - as a business owner in California it is proposed that any company that has a corporate board will be mandated to have a woman as a member, no questions, no exceptions. What happen to "I own the company and want to work with the most qualified people." Let's cal this executive job redistribution.

    This is far from the country that my grandfather fought for and all of my forefathers (generations 11 and 12) made the trek from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Germany to build. That was based on the opportunity to work and benefit from your toils. I know know that I and other tax paying citizens have been sponsoring the decline of this nation. Our wealth, no matter how large or small, has gone to pay for programs to systematically keep people from working, allow illegal immigration (fact the majority of illegals don't work - look at Minneapolis) and basically make America one of the top "lazy ass" countries in the world.

    If you think it is ok for this to happen - I have a family in my town that is looking to move into your home. They need you sponsorship for rent, food, education (once you teach them English) and eventually higher education. They will actually tell you that that's why they are here .... ready to have them move in? They want your wealth. Hell sell your Spyder and give them the cash.

    I hope this country can right itself - all of the great kingdoms have fallen from where they once were - and most here are blind to our fall and the things that aided in the decline.

    Sorry for the rant - being a passionate American I cannot help myself. - I am off the soapbox
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    This whole issue is only a 'problem' if you think it is. You do. I don't.
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    firefly & utahpete can we get your home address so we can send you some of the illegal immigrant families you so
    much want to help?
    i can't speak for others but i would be more then willing to help you help give away your money and all you worked
    for including your to others, illegals don't need a license to drive it, hell they don't even need to know how to shift
    it as long as it is yours.

    i am not making this political just humanitarian in letting progressives, liberals and socialists practice what they preach.
    i would also like to ask you guys when you plan on going to venezuala to help the people there since we all know you
    don't just want to help illegals in the u.s. but all humans in all oppressed countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You're wasting your time trying to fight against those with off the charts cognitive dissonance.... all the rational talk and fact sharing in the world won't change some minds.....
    I kind of miss the Good Old Days"; when all that Dan and I ever fought about was his disrespect for Law Enforcement Officials...

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    anyone know some liberals who would be interested in taking in some illegal immigrant ms13 members? except for
    the drugs, guns, murder, rape and assaults they are very nice hard working yooots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus Aranea View Post
    This country that I love and have defended my entire life (from military dependent, to military retiree, to retired DoD contractor) has really gone to hell in a hand-basket when it comes to redistributing everything. I always was of the belief that everyone pays their taxes, from personal to corporate. That funds the country in order to "in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity." When you actually look at the legal breakdown of the terms, as defined by the original authors and later the Supreme Court - no where does it state that we the citizens have to pay for others to live or immigration in any form. Nor does is say that any persons or corporate wealth should be purposefully redirected or redistributed. BUT - that is what has happened and will continue to happen. As long as the citizens voices are either non-existent or muted by other, or they are just too stupid to see what is really happening - this will continue.

    Think about this - as a business owner in California it is proposed that any company that has a corporate board will be mandated to have a woman as a member, no questions, no exceptions. What happen to "I own the company and want to work with the most qualified people." Let's cal this executive job redistribution.

    This is far from the country that my grandfather fought for and all of my forefathers (generations 11 and 12) made the trek from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Germany to build. That was based on the opportunity to work and benefit from your toils. I know know that I and other tax paying citizens have been sponsoring the decline of this nation. Our wealth, no matter how large or small, has gone to pay for programs to systematically keep people from working, allow illegal immigration (fact the majority of illegals don't work - look at Minneapolis) and basically make America one of the top "lazy ass" countries in the world.

    If you think it is ok for this to happen - I have a family in my town that is looking to move into your home. They need you sponsorship for rent, food, education (once you teach them English) and eventually higher education. They will actually tell you that that's why they are here .... ready to have them move in? They want your wealth. Hell sell your Spyder and give them the cash.

    I hope this country can right itself - all of the great kingdoms have fallen from where they once were - and most here are blind to our fall and the things that aided in the decline.

    Sorry for the rant - being a passionate American I cannot help myself. - I am off the soapbox
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    Not afraid to reply. I'm a progressive.

    Still don't understand what the fuss is about.
    If you don't 'get it', then you are hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Guess the whole 'no politics' rule is no longer in effect?

    Most of this 'off topic' area is quite the cesspool.... people posting fact-less garbage and then blasting their politics, hate and fear.
    Some of it is as bad as the Facebook wars about politics.....

    #sad
    i guess usa today is fake news for you firefly
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rong/24887837/

    how about la times, another liberal fake news source
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...220-story.html

    here is newsweek
    https://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643

    i could also post a few from chinese newspapers & some from taiwan but i'm not sure how many of you can
    read mandarin or cantonese

    you know what is really sad firefly, if you don't agree with it, it is fake news pulled from the internet.
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    Wow! Where did THAT come from? Nowhere in Dan's post did I read that he was talking about "fake news" -- simply lamenting the fact that Off Topic has way too many political posts (and this one is just a little more than on the border of being political). I happen to agree with Dan … too much political in Off Topic these days. I also suspect that my general political views are, likely, different than Dan (aka firefly), but I don't fault him for his opinion (political or otherwise). I just look at his opinion as different than mine, recognize that nothing I say will change his mind, nothing he can say will change mine, and move on.

    As for the "no politics" rule not being so strictly enforced ….. remember, the "boss" is far from 100% and Joan can only do so much to pick up where she can.

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    firefly has pm'd me many times about fake news so i just want to put it in his face if he wants to call all the links
    as fake news as does utahpete. remember it's only fake news when you don't agree with it.

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    No SS you are utterly wrong to say it is only fake news if you disagree with it.

    The accuracy of news has nothing to do with my or your thoughts on the topic.

    You or anyone can put the label on news, but without objective verifiable data to back it up, it's just a label and has zilch to do with the actual report. It's just a simple slogan to feed the base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    Though I have my opinion. I'm not here to judge these numbers. I simply think it important that people see the information.

    This chart has been compiled using the US Census Bureau's numbers (Past and Present) to generate future population predictions if things remain unchanged.

    It is also noteworthy that the Census Bureau no longer asks about citizenship status.
    I don't know about the chart, but not asking citizenship status is not exactly new. The last time the Census Bureau asked citizenship status was in the 1950 census according to NPR: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/59743...ensus-question. I personally verified this as far back as 1990 by reading the census questionnaires that are online at https://www.census.gov/history/www/t...uestionnaires/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post



    for those who don't read or speak mandarin the video tells of women coming to the u.s. 6 months or more pregnant
    from china, having the kid so they can gain citizenship then applying for benefits, leaving the kid in the u.s. and going back to china and still receive benefits for LIFE.

    when they come to the u.s. they stay in 1 of 400 homes owned by chinese businesses who help them with this crime. this video tells of california but i'm sure there are a few other states that this happens in, most assuredly ny. i can
    only hope trump does something about it.

    this post is not meant to be political but hopefully informative, i'm sure very few on here would ever know of scams
    like this.

    This whole damned thread is just stupid. It has nothing to do with one side or another. It has to do with the fact that you posted a video in Mandarin with no English translation or even subtitles. If you look at it directly on YouTube, even all the comments are in Mandarin. The only "translation" we have is what YOU told us what YOU think it means and YOU didn't even provide a source for your translation -- if indeed it's even an actual translation. Sorry, but the first step in any logical argument is determining WTH we're even arguing about. If you are claiming to speak and read Mandarin, then speak up, identify yourself as the translator and I will salute you. If not, identify where you got the translation so we can see it ourselves. As things stand, everyone here just seems to assume that it means what you say it means and they start arguing from there. How dumb is that? Maybe I should have you sign a contract with my wife, she'll write it in Tagalog and trust me, I'll tell you what it means, trust me -- P.S., I don't speak Tagalog. Sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I kind of miss the Good Old Days"; when all that Dan and I ever fought about was his disrespect for Law Enforcement Officials...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsimion View Post
    This whole damned thread is just stupid. It has nothing to do with one side or another. It has to do with the fact that you posted a video in Mandarin with no English translation or even subtitles. If you look at it directly on YouTube, even all the comments are in Mandarin. The only "translation" we have is what YOU told us what YOU think it means and YOU didn't even provide a source for your translation -- if indeed it's even an actual translation. Sorry, but the first step in any logical argument is determining WTH we're even arguing about. If you are claiming to speak and read Mandarin, then speak up, identify yourself as the translator and I will salute you. If not, identify where you got the translation so we can see it ourselves. As things stand, everyone here just seems to assume that it means what you say it means and they start arguing from there. How dumb is that? Maybe I should have you sign a contract with my wife, she'll write it in Tagalog and trust me, I'll tell you what it means, trust me -- P.S., I don't speak Tagalog. Sheesh.
    You are very right, for my accurate translation i use my wife, father in law, brother in law, sisters in law, niece who did the translation at the hospital and my poor understanding of mandarin. While in bed every night i control the tv & my wife has her laptop watching taiwan & chinese videos with chinese subtitles so i trust her completely on translation and i watch chinese news with her sometimes. My wife graduated college in taiwan then came to the u.s. While in taiwan i practiced my mandarin hitting on spicy girls (google it if you want to know what that is), my wife & her friends were very surprised i knew a lot more then they thought. Understand the reason i know a lot about china & taiwan & have been there is from my wife & her family. I also have vendors in taiwan who are fluent in english but
    when we do have a little issue my wife will type it out or talk to them on phone.

    P.S. johnsimion, a really really good customer of mine comes to u.s. 3 or 4 times a year from the filipines to visit his kids & stops at my place to buy a bunch of classic wheel covers for his cars, he has over 50 of them there. no i don't speak tagalog but he speaks english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    You are very right, for my accurate translation i use my wife, father in law, brother in law, sisters in law, niece who did the translation at the hospital and my poor understanding of mandarin. While in bed every night i control the tv & my wife has her laptop watching taiwan & chinese videos with chinese subtitles so i trust her completely on translation and i watch chinese news with her sometimes. My wife graduated college in taiwan then came to the u.s. While in taiwan i practiced my mandarin hitting on spicy girls (google it if you want to know what that is), my wife & her friends were very surprised i knew a lot more then they thought. Understand the reason i know a lot about china & taiwan & have been there is from my wife & her family. I also have vendors in taiwan who are fluent in english but
    when we do have a little issue my wife will type it out or talk to them on phone.

    P.S. johnsimion, a really really good customer of mine comes to u.s. 3 or 4 times a year from the filipines to visit his kids & stops at my place to buy a bunch of classic wheel covers for his cars, he has over 50 of them there. no i don't speak tagalog but he speaks english.
    Thank you! And a salute is due as well. I apologize for questioning you ... you should have said something up front!

    For the record, I've verified what you say and although the numbers may be a bit exaggerated, that doesn't make it right. This kind of thing irritates me as well. I would like to see the Constitution amended so that at least one parent has to be a citizen or legal immigrant before citizenship is conferred. And I'd like to see a rule that government benefits can't be sent overseas except those actually earned; e.g. Social Security. But I don't foresee either political party doing that. The GOP would be the most likely, except they seem to be unable to pass simple common sense things because they're too busy tacking on controversial stuff; e.g., we want to build the wall but if you want to support that, you also have to vote to completely change the legal immigration system. There's no connection between ILLEGALS and legals, so why are they lumped together into the same bill? It's like they're asking to fail and honestly I often think that's their intent. Another example is *****care; I totally agree it's terrible and should be repealed and replaced, but honestly, how could they not have another plan ready after all these years? And how could they come up with the votes to pass the tax cut but NOT to repeal *****care? Repealing *****care was what they campaigned on and finally they control everything and they STILL can't do it ... but they CAN pass a tax cut? Come on! If that isn't a deliberate fail, bite me.

    About Filipinos, I have been married 32 years and know only a little of the language, only words I can pick up from listening to her speaking to friends and relatives. The minute you start speaking to a Filipino, they immediately answer in English! My wife learned English in school ***and their classes were also taught in English***. That would be the equivalent of me learning Algebra in Russian. And there are NO textbooks from English to Tagalog ... but thousands from Tagalog to English. Oddly, she has Filipina friends here in Vegas who come from other islands within the Philippines and they don't speak the same dialect -- and so the entire group ends up conversing in English!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsimion View Post
    Oddly, she has Filipina friends here in Vegas who come from other islands within the Philippines and they don't speak the same dialect -- and so the entire group ends up conversing in English!
    And even that's no guarantee they all understand each other! When I was in England in 1988/89 a guy in the US Air Force over there told me of a time he was in a pub talking with a group of Londoners, Scots, Aussies, some from Birmingham, and himself, an American. All were speaking English, but they couldn't understand each other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsimion View Post
    Thank you! And a salute is due as well. I apologize for questioning you ... you should have said something up front!

    For the record, I've verified what you say and although the numbers may be a bit exaggerated, that doesn't make it right. This kind of thing irritates me as well. I would like to see the Constitution amended so that at least one parent has to be a citizen or legal immigrant before citizenship is conferred. And I'd like to see a rule that government benefits can't be sent overseas except those actually earned; e.g. Social Security. But I don't foresee either political party doing that. The GOP would be the most likely, except they seem to be unable to pass simple common sense things because they're too busy tacking on controversial stuff; e.g., we want to build the wall but if you want to support that, you also have to vote to completely change the legal immigration system. There's no connection between ILLEGALS and legals, so why are they lumped together into the same bill? It's like they're asking to fail and honestly I often think that's their intent. Another example is *****care; I totally agree it's terrible and should be repealed and replaced, but honestly, how could they not have another plan ready after all these years? And how could they come up with the votes to pass the tax cut but NOT to repeal *****care? Repealing *****care was what they campaigned on and finally they control everything and they STILL can't do it ... but they CAN pass a tax cut? Come on! If that isn't a deliberate fail, bite me.

    About Filipinos, I have been married 32 years and know only a little of the language, only words I can pick up from listening to her speaking to friends and relatives. The minute you start speaking to a Filipino, they immediately answer in English! My wife learned English in school ***and their classes were also taught in English***. That would be the equivalent of me learning Algebra in Russian. And there are NO textbooks from English to Tagalog ... but thousands from Tagalog to English. Oddly, she has Filipina friends here in Vegas who come from other islands within the Philippines and they don't speak the same dialect -- and so the entire group ends up conversing in English!
    my wife too tells me about the different dialects in mandarin & doesn't understand the other dialects.

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