Cost of a YUASA battery

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I just bought a YTX24HL-BS battery this is the Yuasa brand ( NOT the similar Motocross model ) & used for all late model Spyders ….. It came with the acid separate, so I will fill it and charge it myself ( easy peasy ) when mine fails …… I paid $106.00 delivered. This way I know it will be charged correctly, if Batteries aren't properly charged it has a definite effect on their life.... I got it on E-bay. If you want the item # ….PM me ….. Mike

[Chupaca]

Great deal Mike. I got the same one on Amazon about a month or two ago and paid about $28.00 more. But then I did need it "NOW" cause mine died and did not want to loose ryding time... Like I can ryde anytime but I do like instant gratification.

[PMK]

Not saying this happened, but have read several times now where Chinese companies are making bogus batteries. Supposedly Duracell and others are now copied and made to look like the real stuff, but sell for considerably less. With use the batteries fail early.

Recently, needed to replace some batteries in a device. Opened the pack of Duracells, still years within expiration date, every one of them was dead, like 0 volts and some were leaking fluid. New in the package, and not expired.

[ARtraveler]

All good information above.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Not saying this happened, but have read several times now where Chinese companies are making bogus batteries. Supposedly Duracell and others are now copied and made to look like the real stuff, but sell for considerably less. With use the batteries fail early.

Recently, needed to replace some batteries in a device. Opened the pack of Duracells, still years within expiration date, every one of them was dead, like 0 volts and some were leaking fluid. New in the package, and not expired.

Well this is the best copy of anything I have ever encountered …… The Acid comes from Taiwan and supplied to the Yuasa co. , the instructions states it was Printed in the USA. On the Duracells - how do you know they were copies ??? .… and come from China ??? ….That info stating it is a FAKE generally doesn't appear anywhere if it's a Fake …… Mike

[PMK]

Well this is the best copy of anything I have ever encountered …… The Acid comes from Taiwan and supplied to the Yuasa co. , the instructions states it was Printed in the USA. On the Duracells - how do you know they were copies ??? .… and come from China ??? ….That info generally doesn't appear anywhere if it a Fake …… Mike

I had no way to tell except they were a bargain price compared to usual Duracells, and then the batteries died before the printed date on them.

Typically, tne package does not state it is a counterfiet chinese copy...

Hope yours is real Yuasa. Seems the Chinese will copy, and poorly copy just about anything.

[Streaker]

Am I crazy for purchasing the free batteries for as long as I own our Spyder for $160 from our dealer?

[jcthorne]

For most folks, the factory activated battery is the correct one. The -BS that ships dry is not recommended for Spyders and will die an early death if not activated properly. The spyder charging system will not. Just buy the right one.

Odyssey makes a great, made in usa, exact fit, factory activated battery for the Spyder as well.

[ARtraveler]

Am I crazy for purchasing the free batteries for as long as I own our Spyder for $160 from our dealer?

Recommended change is every three to four years. How long are you going to keep it?

[Streaker]

Until it dies or I do most likely.
I've still got my 2006 Kawasaki Mean Streak and 2008 Suzuki GSX650F. Also have a 2015 Victory Magnum that isn't going anywhere. He who dies with the most toys wins!

[SpyderPolly]

Recommended change is every three to four years. How long are you going to keep it?

Why don't you get a gel battery? Have always used them in my HD's. Gel batteries and acid based batteries are very different. I would suggest only using a Gel based battery. My 2017 F3L Spyder is too new for a replacement battery.... Am I wrong here?? Polly

[NautiBrit]

Why don't you get a gel battery? Have always used them in my HD's. Gel batteries and acid based batteries are very different. I would suggest only using a Gel based battery. My 2017 F3L Spyder is too new for a replacement battery.... Am I wrong here?? Polly

The gel in a battery is acid based and basically the same as a lead acid battery. The acid is formulated as a gel to make it maintenace free.

[PMK]

Well this is the best copy of anything I have ever encountered …… The Acid comes from Taiwan and supplied to the Yuasa co. , the instructions states it was Printed in the USA. On the Duracells - how do you know they were copies ??? .… and come from China ??? ….That info stating it is a FAKE generally doesn't appear anywhere if it's a Fake …… Mike

As a thought, if the battery has a Warranty Card, submitting that is a good indicator. Obviously a bogus battery would have no Warranty Card. Just a thought. No idea if they copy Yuasa batteries, and hope yours is real.

[PMK]

Was not aware, but did a quick Google search, yes, it seems Yuasa batteries are now not all made by Yuasa and low quality Chinese almost copies are out there.

http://honda-superdream.co.uk/thread...-yuasa-battery

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Was not aware, but did a quick Google search, yes, it seems Yuasa batteries are now not all made by Yuasa and low quality Chinese almost copies are out there.

http://honda-superdream.co.uk/thread...-yuasa-battery

Question , if your hypothesis is correct ….. how do we know the Yuasa batteries that are in any or all new Spyders aren't knock-offs ?????? …………. Mike

[PMK]

Question , if your hypothesis is correct ….. how do we know the Yuasa batteries that are in any or all new Spyders aren't knock-offs ?????? …………. Mike

Pretty certain BRP does oem sales. Sales from one known oem to another. Not like BRP will go to the auto parts store and order a pallet of batteries.

As I said, hope it is the real deal. Actually was a bit surprised at the number of topics for counterfiet Yuasa batteries the popped up on the Google search.

[PMK]

Question , if your hypothesis is correct ….. how do we know the Yuasa batteries that are in any or all new Spyders aren't knock-offs ?????? …………. Mike

That post I linked, the buyers indicated the low quality batteries had rounded posts, wherethe Yuasa had square posts. The topic is a couple years old, but that might be an indicator, or maybe not.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Pretty certain BRP does oem sales. Sales from one known oem to another. Not like BRP will go to the auto parts store and order a pallet of batteries.

As I said, hope it is the real deal. Actually was a bit surprised at the number of topics for counterfiet Yuasa batteries the popped up on the Google search.

Well I'm more than " pretty certain " about this …. The day I bought my 2014 RT from a certified BRP dealer, it failed on my way home !!! …… was the battery REAL or a KNOCK-OFF ……… ???? …… Mike

[PMK]

Well I'm more than " pretty certain " about this …. The day I bought my 2014 RT from a certified BRP dealer, it failed on my way home !!! …… was the battery REAL or a KNOCK-OFF ……… ???? …… Mike

Your guess is as good as mine, but I would believe it was a real Yuasa battery that simply failed. Again, hope it works well for you.

[jcthorne]

Why don't you get a gel battery? Have always used them in my HD's. Gel batteries and acid based batteries are very different. I would suggest only using a Gel based battery. My 2017 F3L Spyder is too new for a replacement battery.... Am I wrong here?? Polly

All Spyders come factory equipped with a Yuasa AGM type battery. AGM is sometimes called a gel battery as there is no liquid acid to leak, its all Absorbed into the Glass Matt.

ONLY AGM replacement batteries should be used.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

All Spyders come factory equipped with a Yuasa AGM type battery. AGM is sometimes called a gel battery as there is no liquid acid to leak, its all Absorbed into the Glass Matt.

ONLY AGM replacement batteries should be used.

I reported above that I bought a Yuasa YTX24HL-BS …. and that when I put it into use I will have to ADD the ACID...… This battery is SPECIFIED in my owners manual as the battery in my RT and since I just looked in my Spyder actually is there …. No where on my battery does it say it's an " AGM " battery nor a " GEL " battery ….. so imho what you posted above is only going to confuse the readers ……. Mike

[jcthorne]

I reported above that I bought a Yuasa YTX24HL-BS …. and that when I put it into use I will have to ADD the ACID...… This battery is SPECIFIED in my owners manual as the battery in my RT and since I just looked in my Spyder actually is there …. No where on my battery does it say it's an " AGM " battery nor a " GEL " battery ….. so imho what you posted above is only going to confuse the readers ……. Mike

First, the BRP SPECIFIED battery is Yuasa YTX24HL, NOT YTX24HL-BS. IE factory activated, not dry shipped.

Second, if you wish to know if the Yuasa battery is AGM type or not, look it up on Yuasa's web site. As far as I know Yuasa ONLY makes AGM type batteries for motorsports use.

Sorry if my description confused you, but I stand by it as correct. The term 'gel battery' is generic and can refer to several technologies, Absorbed Glass Matt being one of them. My response was to someone who thought 'upgrading' to a 'gel battery' would be worthwhile. I was merely trying to convey they already have what they are suggesting to upgrade to.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

First, the BRP SPECIFIED battery is Yuasa YTX24HL, NOT YTX24HL-BS. IE factory activated, not dry shipped.

Second, if you wish to know if the Yuasa battery is AGM type or not, look it up on Yuasa's web site. As far as I know Yuasa ONLY makes AGM type batteries for motorsports use.

Sorry if my description confused you, but I stand by it as correct. The term 'gel battery' is generic and can refer to several technologies, Absorbed Glass Matt being one of them. My response was to someone who thought 'upgrading' to a 'gel battery' would be worthwhile. I was merely trying to convey they already have what they are suggesting to upgrade to.

If anyone who has a 2014 RT ( basic, S or, Ltd. ) actually cares about the truth on this, look in your owners' manual Pg. 162 in the " electrical system " section …. BATTERY - Yuasa YTX24HL-BS ….. I suppose it's possible that I have the only Manual that states this, but I doubt it...…..PLEASE report it on this thread, because JC doesn't believe me, maybe He will believe you …………. PS your description didn't confuse me at all, it just wasn't true...….. Mike

[jcthorne]

If anyone who has a 2014 RT ( basic, S or, Ltd. ) actually cares about the truth on this, look in your owners' manual Pg. 162 in the " electrical system " section …. BATTERY - Yuasa YTX24HL-BS ….. I suppose it's possible that I have the only Manual that states this, but I doubt it...…..PLEASE report it on this thread, because JC doesn't believe me, maybe He will believe you …………. PS your description didn't confuse me at all, it just wasn't true...….. Mike

That information was superseded long ago. There was even a tech bulletin about it and it predated your 2014. BRP has a long habit of not updating information in owners manuals and copy/paste to new editions. Heck there is RT stuff in my F3 manual.

Look up the specified replacement battery from BRP parts or read the tech bulletin. It was even posted here at Spyderlovers years ago.

You will also find the battery IN your bike from the factory is NOT a -BS version.

In interest of fairness to Mike, I just checked the 2016 and 2018 owners manuals and the -BS designation is STILL in there. Its still not the battery the dealers stock nor what BRP parts sells. The tech bulletin still succeeds it. BRP documentation is awful and rarely consistent. The -BS battery will work if the activation procedure, including charge and soak times, is strictly adhered to. Trouble is, most dealers and users did not.

The factory activated battery eliminates all of this and just works.

[billybovine]

I reported above that I bought a Yuasa YTX24HL-BS …. and that when I put it into use I will have to ADD the ACID...… This battery is SPECIFIED in my owners manual as the battery in my RT and since I just looked in my Spyder actually is there …. No where on my battery does it say it's an " AGM " battery nor a " GEL " battery ….. so imho what you posted above is only going to confuse the readers ……. Mike

All Yuasa YTX series batteries are AGM and no matter the series all Yuasa AGM batteries are in a black case.