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    Default Ryker dirt road and gravel

    I see the ryker is marketed to do a little off pavement....are we not suppose to be doing that with our F3s?? I ride dirt and gravel with no issues. Just wondering.
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    ...Very little: the ground clearance is still less than 4.5"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    ...Very little: the ground clearance is still less than 4.5"
    With decent tires and shocks it could ryde higher. BRP is depending on its costumers to make it their own.
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    I'm waiting to see BRP do some flat tracking with the Ryker.

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    If you want to go Off-Road: it's time to get serious about the problem!

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    I think it would be great with a belly mower, looks like a mower to me.
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    Off-road is a misnomer, more likely a "soft-roader". I think the lack of ground clearance will limit it to gravel driveways and well traveled packed dirt roads. Plus I doubt I will see these in Moab anytime soon. 3 wheels are a distinct disadvantage on a jeep trail, the front two will be down in the ruts, the rear will be up on the center berm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AY4B View Post
    I think it would be great with a belly mower, looks like a mower to me.
    That was said about the F3 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    I see the ryker is marketed to do a little off pavement....are we not suppose to be doing that with our F3s?? I ride dirt and gravel with no issues. Just wondering.
    I do the same with my RS. Only thing I see that makes the Ryker more dirt road friendly is the shaft drive. Lots of people here are dirt road paranoid but I don't understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Rodriguez View Post
    I do the same with my RS. Only thing I see that makes the Ryker more dirt road friendly is the shaft drive. Lots of people here are dirt road paranoid but I don't understand it.
    +1 on the shaft drive. I live at the back end of a mile and a half rugged gravel road and live in fear of getting a stone in the belt.

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    With just over 4 inches of clearance and a three wheeled track this thing is as off road ready as my grandpa's Buick LeSabre. It's a sales pitch. The hottest selling bikes right now are the so called "adventure" bikes so BRP decided to toss a bit of the adventure into the description for this bike. But then like 90% of the adventure bikes the most off road these will see is a gravel driveway.
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    Default salt flats or gravel

    I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.

    The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by vondalyn View Post
    I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.

    The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by vondalyn View Post
    I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.

    The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
    I do not think that I would go up the Fall River Road on my RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    I see the ryker is marketed to do a little off pavement....are we not suppose to be doing that with our F3s?? I ride dirt and gravel with no issues. Just wondering.

    My feelings exactly. I tend to ride my RT where eer I want to go. I live on a dirt and gravel road, about 1/2 mile long, and didn't realize that I shouldn't be riding it there. I also live out in the country, so many of our toads are dirt or sand. 20,000 miles so far with no problems.

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    Default Ryker Off Road

    I think the majority are correct the offroad means dirt road, fire road, etc.. not really offroad. That said, the CVT is definitely better in this environment than either the SE or SM for a number of reasons, not the least of which is less sensors to contaminate. The problems I have seen with excessive dirt and Spyders are TCM failures, VSS failures, bent ABS sensor wheels, failed ABS sensors, overheating power steering sensors, and stones in the belt. The stone eventually pokes a hole in the belt and then we change them to calm the fear of an impending failure.
    From a technical standpoint, the Ryker really is much simpler. There just is a whole lot less going on electronically. That means a whole lot less to connect. Many of the issues which occur in a Spyder are either electrical/sensor or pure connectivity (plug) issues. Less is better in a rough environment. As proof, compare an ATV electronic diagram to a Spyder.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    I see the ryker is marketed to do a little off pavement....are we not suppose to be doing that with our F3s?? I ride dirt and gravel with no issues. Just wondering.

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    If the belt is the concern for riding dirt or rocky roads it should not be. I have been living on a limerock surface road for 40 years or more. Have to ride a mile going out and a mile coming back in. When I rode chain drive bikes, the mud and grit would eat the chains and sprockets up. I would change the back tire at about 8,000 miles and change the chain and sprockets at the same time.

    About 2001 I bought a Harley Sprotster with belt drive. Rode it for about 18 years on the limerock road with the same conditions that ate the chains up. The belts would last at least 50,000 miles. I was not using a belt guard at all. The limerock road has small stones and pieces of shell mixed in and any time they grade the roads, the motorgrader rakes up piles of the small stones and shells into the middle of the road. Belts last just as long on the limerock as some of my friends who never went off the asphalt. I am now riding the F3-S on the same limerock road and feel confident the belt will be good for at least 50,000.

    Little note - Where I live is warm and I can ride 365 days a year. I put over 300,000 miles on the old Sportster with 2 top end rebuilds. The belts all lasted at least 50,000 miles. The limerock road is fairly flat and not much chance of bottoming out or dragging except while the grader is working. I can get around that problem. The rocks and shells just do not cause any problems with the belt drive.

    This is part of the road to my place.........Hard packed limerock, nasty when wet, but fairly smooth and shallow (most of the time) potholes.



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    It is what it is.

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