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    Default 2019 F3L price drop.

    Did anyone notice the 19 F3L dropped 4k in price.
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    Default New sales tactic?

    I noticed. Wonder if BRP decided to stop using rebates as a sales tactics and just start offering a more reasonable MSRP to begin with. It looks like the F3 and F3-S might be getting a new dashboard...maybe there is some cost savings there too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanSD View Post
    I noticed. Wonder if BRP decided to stop using rebates as a sales tactics and just start offering a more reasonable MSRP to begin with. It looks like the F3 and F3-S might be getting a new dashboard...maybe there is some cost savings there too?
    Makes sense to me. In the end...it's the "out the door" price that counts.

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    Yea- The base F3 with Auto is 16,999!

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    The RT's are down in price as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanSD View Post
    I noticed. Wonder if BRP decided to stop using rebates as a sales tactics and just start offering a more reasonable MSRP to begin with. It looks like the F3 and F3-S might be getting a new dashboard...maybe there is some cost savings there too?
    If they did, that's a failed tactic. People don't understand that the price is lower and don't feel like they are getting a good deal, like if they are getting a rebate. JC Penny tried that also, rather than putting everything on sale, they just lowered the price to what it would have been with the sale price. People bought less stuff

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    Ether way it is going to knock the crap out of the value of my 2018 RTL .
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    $8500 for a Ryker might affect the F3 market, too!
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    Default Demographic Change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Culpjp View Post
    If they did, that's a failed tactic. People don't understand that the price is lower and don't feel like they are getting a good deal, like if they are getting a rebate. JC Penny tried that also, rather than putting everything on sale, they just lowered the price to what it would have been with the sale price. People bought less stuff
    I have no special knowledge to why they've lowered the price and I'm only guessing in my previous post. I do know though, my local dealer was extremely frustrated this past summer with the fluctuating rebates for my 2017 RT Limited. In the few months leading up to my purchase...the conversation went from the price he could give me, to the price he could give me with the $3,000 rebate, and to the price he couldn't give me with the $4,500 rebate (he had very little wiggle room to lower the price beyond the rebate). I suspect dealers in general would like a more stable pricing for the Ryker and Spyder as long as they can still lure customers in the door with the new pricing structure. Hopefully, BRP makes some announcements about the new prices that the dealers can explain to their customers.

    I appreciate your comparison with JC Penny (I'm more of a Sears missing Montgomery Ward guy) and do think you're right that they're going to have to make some type of "this is a good deal sale" to bring people like you and me in. At the new prices though, I wouldn't expect a repeat of those $3000 to $4500 rebates but lesser incentive package.

    BUT...given the new Ryker line and the push to reaching demographics, BRP likely needs to change how sells these reverse trikes to a younger generation. Younger people don't want to wheel and deal and their initial shopping isn't being done at the dealership but online. If the dealer can't promise them a best price online or refuses to display their sale price...they don't call but instead move one. My local Ford dealer now sales cars at a fixed "best price" with no haggling. Older folks don't like it...but new customers love this no haggle pricing structure.

    Again though, I'm only guessing. Any dealers here that can explain the new pricing structure for the F3 and RT? The motivation for the change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petegtsv10 View Post
    $8500 for a Ryker might affect the F3 market, too!
    Yea, that's going to be a difficult choice...high-end Ryker or low-end F3?

    I suspect both the Ryker's price and the new F3/RT prices will put a lot of pressure on the resale value of the older 990 Spyders (2014 and older).

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    RE: Demographics--anybody check out the models that are being shown with the new Ryker? Looks like they are looking for a whole different market.

    RE: Price Drops: The only downside--it is going to put a real crimp in the current used market. I am thinking lucky to get $10K for my 2011 and $12K for the 2014--IF I were going to sell my RT's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    RE: Demographics--anybody check out the models that are being shown with the new Ryker? Looks like they are looking for a whole different market.

    RE: Price Drops: The only downside--it is going to put a real crimp in the current used market. I am thinking lucky to get $10K for my 2011 and $12K for the 2014--IF I were going to sell my RT's.
    Agree on both counts. Will be interesting to see what happens with the pricing for the left-over 2018's still remaining at the dealer. Even with the rebates for the 2018...the 2019 Ryker and the 2019 prices for the RT/F3 has me wondering what dealers will do with their old inventory.

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    I have a deal pending now for a used '17 F3 LTD, 5000 miles wit lots of Extra stuff thrown in for 24ooo. This is making me wonder if I should go ahead with the deal.
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    There is a 17 F3L gray with taller windshield on ebay for 18,300 obo with 5k+ miles. It is in Indianapolis Indiana. You can by a new 2019 for 24,500 I paid 24,600 out the door back in July for my 18 F3L
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    Quote Originally Posted by AY4B View Post
    I have a deal pending now for a used '17 F3 LTD, 5000 miles wit lots of Extra stuff thrown in for 24ooo. This is making me wonder if I should go ahead with the deal.
    It depends if you are the buyer (no) or seller (yes) - IMO.
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    We had a deal pending as well for a Demo 2017 F3 Limited and then we found out that 2019 F3 Limited (Dark) is only a $1000 more. The plus side is that now we can now get it without the chrome which we prefer. My wife is really liking the Orange one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AY4B View Post
    I have a deal pending now for a used '17 F3 LTD, 5000 miles wit lots of Extra stuff thrown in for 24ooo. This is making me wonder if I should go ahead with the deal.
    I have seen 2018's used for less than that. That is not a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanSD View Post
    Yea, that's going to be a difficult choice...high-end Ryker or low-end F3?
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    Not a difficult choice if you plan on touring. Maybe if you’re looking for a commuter vehicle

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    Default Who's the fool?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again.
    When I buy any toy (motorcycle, RV, Boat) I know I'm going to lose "at least" 75% of my money when it sells.....period.
    When I sell my F3s next year it'll be like tossing my cash on a camp fire.
    This does not bother me because I knew what was coming BEFORE I bought my latest toy.
    So who is the fool? The buyer? The seller? The answer is neither because I'm having a ball not giving a sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    Did anyone notice the 19 F3L dropped 4k in price.
    Im not sure if it’s the same w F3, but the initial price of the RTL was lower...until I looked at equipment. The 19 doesn’t have same standard equipment that the 18 has. Floor boards, electric windshield etc. If u go to their site, build one w the equipment u have on your 18. The RTL was a little more expensive than the 18 MSRP I own, once I added floorboards etc. Just a marketing tool to get people in the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanSD View Post
    I have no special knowledge to why they've lowered the price and I'm only guessing in my previous post. I do know though, my local dealer was extremely frustrated this past summer with the fluctuating rebates for my 2017 RT Limited. In the few months leading up to my purchase...the conversation went from the price he could give me, to the price he could give me with the $3,000 rebate, and to the price he couldn't give me with the $4,500 rebate (he had very little wiggle room to lower the price beyond the rebate). I suspect dealers in general would like a more stable pricing for the Ryker and Spyder as long as they can still lure customers in the door with the new pricing structure. Hopefully, BRP makes some announcements about the new prices that the dealers can explain to their customers.

    I appreciate your comparison with JC Penny (I'm more of a Sears missing Montgomery Ward guy) and do think you're right that they're going to have to make some type of "this is a good deal sale" to bring people like you and me in. At the new prices though, I wouldn't expect a repeat of those $3000 to $4500 rebates but lesser incentive package.

    BUT...given the new Ryker line and the push to reaching demographics, BRP likely needs to change how sells these reverse trikes to a younger generation. Younger people don't want to wheel and deal and their initial shopping isn't being done at the dealership but online. If the dealer can't promise them a best price online or refuses to display their sale price...they don't call but instead move one. My local Ford dealer now sales cars at a fixed "best price" with no haggling. Older folks don't like it...but new customers love this no haggle pricing structure.

    Again though, I'm only guessing. Any dealers here that can explain the new pricing structure for the F3 and RT? The motivation for the change?
    I got my 2017 RT-S for just a hair over $20k about a week ago. $4,500 off sale for left over inventory. I sent the dealer a link to a 2014 limited I was looking at that had 4,800 miles and was fully loaded for just shy of $18K. I said why would I pay all that for the 2017 left over? They dropped the price another $2,500 and I said well then, now I will buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AY4B View Post
    I have a deal pending now for a used '17 F3 LTD, 5000 miles wit lots of Extra stuff thrown in for 24ooo. This is making me wonder if I should go ahead with the deal.
    Since we're talking about F3 pricing. BRP just put out their latest rebate (though other than a FB post, I see no mention of it elsewhere). Anyways, I just got a quote from imotorsports for a 2018 F3L, $21,999. That seems to be fair and comparable (especially with it being shipped to my driveway here in back woods KY). Thoughs?Screenshot_20180910-140409_Facebook.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowkast View Post
    Since we're talking about F3 pricing. BRP just put out their latest rebate (though other than a FB post, I see no mention of it elsewhere). Anyways, I just got a quote from imotorsports for a 2018 F3L, $21,999. That seems to be fair and comparable (especially with it being shipped to my driveway here in back woods KY). Thoughs?Screenshot_20180910-140409_Facebook.jpg
    Dark or Chrome? If it's Chrome, no question it's a fantastic deal. If it's a Dark trim, you're talking about just a $2500 price difference to the 2019 equivalent. I'd see if you can squeeze another $500 out of them (although delivery to your door step may be why they won't go lower). Still $2500 off is nothing to sneeze at. As I mentioned before, given the starting low prices for 2019, I don't think we'll be seeing the large rebates for this model year like we just saw for the 2017 and 2018 model years. In other words, I don't think you'll get any better deal next year for a 2019 than you'll get this year for a 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanSD View Post
    Dark or Chrome? If it's Chrome, no question it's a fantastic deal. If it's a Dark trim, you're talking about just a $2500 price difference to the 2019 equivalent. I'd see if you can squeeze another $500 out of them (although delivery to your door step may be why they won't go lower). Still $2500 off is nothing to sneeze at. As I mentioned before, given the starting low prices for 2019, I don't think we'll be seeing the large rebates for this model year like we just saw for the 2017 and 2018 model years. In other words, I don't think you'll get any better deal next year for a 2019 than you'll get this year for a 2018.
    Dark. They are going to throw in the rear faring. Which I believe is $680. Your last sentence is what has me saying to myself, make the purchase. Yes the current rebate loses its value when you take into account the new MSRP of the 2019. But it's still $8,000 less it's starting MSRP, $2,500 less than a 2019. All the same features as a 19 and 0 miles on it, it's in the crate still. Even though the shipping is free and one of their selling points, I do have to factor that perk into the purchase as I truly live in the middle of nowhere KY. So my other option is making a road trip out of state with the wife. I'd still love to hear others weigh in their opinions please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowkast View Post
    Since we're talking about F3 pricing. BRP just put out their latest rebate (though other than a FB post, I see no mention of it elsewhere). Anyways, I just got a quote from imotorsports for a 2018 F3L, $21,999. That seems to be fair and comparable (especially with it being shipped to my driveway here in back woods KY). Thoughs?Screenshot_20180910-140409_Facebook.jpg
    This is the one we are going to buy.
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