What oil do you use on your Spyder?

[Gonzo5776]

Hi everyone,
Just curious, what oil you guys and gals run in your spyders and why?

Thank you and have a great day.

[bodymanpainter]

Amsoil 10W40, I have used it in all my Spyders (4) and no problems and the transmissions all seamed to shift much smoother.

Toby

[fjray]

[Soulman327]

Exactly!

(but I still read every one)

[BoxyLady]

Indeed :-) OP is going to get a LOT of answers to this and I hope it does not result in another locked thread. No clue why some folks are so passionate/stubborn about their oil choice being the only one that's valid.

My main comment to the OP is to ensure that a synthetic is used per the BRP recommendations in the owner's guide. Now, me, I use Amsoil in everything except my Z06. Chevrolet put Mobil 1 in it from the factory and I continue to use it for that car. I have read several independent (NOT paid for by lubrication interests) testing reports and have talked with two engine builders who tear down and build high compression engines for a living. As a result, Amsoil is the choice I made, but I really don't think you can go wrong with any synthetic oil made today. They are extremely good.

Also, I do NOT sell Amsoil, nor do I know anyone who does. I have always ordered directly off of their website......

[JayBros]

Use whatever you want as long as it meets the API service specifications specified in your operators guide. Also do not add any oil additives or use oil meeting API service specification SM as warned on pg 95 of your operator's guide because it can cause clutch problems. Remember too that the only way you can tell how your oil is performing is to have it analyzed.

[2dogs]

Amsoil 10W40.

[Gonzo5776]

Amsoil 10W40, I have used it in all my Spyders (4) and no problems and the transmissions all seamed to shift much smoother.

Toby

Thanks for the option, XPS kits are pricey.

[SPYD3R]

VALVOLINE 4T FULL SYNTHETIC 10-40
i buy it from Walmarts web page... $7.37 per qt...

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

VALVOLINE 4T FULL SYNTHETIC 10-40
i buy it from Walmarts web page... $7.37 per qt...

This Valvoline is what I used to use because ( it is great oil ) & I got a couple of cases at a fantastic price ….. I am now switching to the Shell Rotella T-6 ( which also is a superior oil ) because I got a few gallons at an even better price …..both of these oils are Full Synthetic ……………. Mike

[tibadoe]

Already have Shell Rotella T-6 on my list.

[pegasus1300]

Shell Rotella 5/40 T6 synthetic. I have bought so much of this oil on sale that I'll have over 100,000 miles on the Spyder before I use it all up. The sale Mike mentions earlier is a great sale, take advantage.

The why is that it is an excellent oil it is readily available (Walmart) and it is cheap. I change it out every 4500 miles so I can't see putting in an expensive oil.

[PMK]

Mobil 1 10w40 Sportbike oil. The reason why, in a very complete test of many oils, the Mobil 1 10w40 Sportbike oil was ranked as number 2 best motorcycle oil behind very expensive Motul race oil, and the Mobil was higher rated than the Rotella and other oils mentioned here.

The test, for unknown reasons does not compare Amsoil, so there is no means to praise nor condemn it.

Additionally, others here have had the Mobil 1 from their Spyders tested by labs and the results are excellent.

Plus, from a practical point, the Spyder shifts better and the clutch is smoother compared to BRP oil.

[deer30084]

Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

What do you think ….. is the difference between 5w and 10w ?????? …. Mike

[deer30084]

Mike: Viscosity I suppose. I'm no oil expert.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike: Viscosity I suppose. I'm no oil expert.

If you haven't read BAJARON's post above - it is in your best interest to do so ….. PS I use 10/40 synthetic ….. Mike

[BajaRon]

Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

There are actually a number of good reasons to use 10w-40 as opposed to a 5w-40.

1- The larger the gap between the low number and the high number, the less stable an oil is. If you are using a mineral oil with an additive package (which is what most 'Synthetic' labeled motor oils are), it takes more additive to get this wider spread. Additives are there to protect the weaker mineral oil molecules from shearing and other forces which break the oil molecules down and degrade their lubricating properties. Additives are not lubricants, and they do break down. Once these protective additives start to go away, the weak mineral oil molecules tend to lose integrity quickly. This is why the BRP oils tend to shear down to 20 weight at around 5,000 miles according to the oil analysis testing we've seen.

2- The low number of these 2 is only designed to give a relative viscosity at cold start-up. While cold start-up viscosity is important, it only needs to be thin enough to deliver adequate lubrication to vital parts during this very short period of time. If you are storing your Spyder in sub-zero temperatures, then a 5w oil would certainly be advantageous. However, it is probably a very rare Spyder which ever sees this kind of cold start-up temperature. This means that you are sacrificing at least some stability for a cold start-up viscosity that you will never need.

It is also interesting to note that true synthetic oils like Amsoil, Schaeffer, etc., being engineered at the molecular level during the refinement process have much stronger molecules. This is why they are able to achieve multiple viscosities and are inherently more stable and able to resist shearing and other destructive environments with minimal additives. We consistantly see Amsoil tests coming back in the low to mid 30's at 10k as opposed to BRP and other oils at 20w at the same mileage.

If you really want to know what is going on with your oil, have it tested. It's easy and not that expensive. And then you don't have to take someone else's word for it. But be prepared. The results may surprise you.

People truly do get personally invested in their brand and the oil debate will certainly rage on. I do not expect that my 2 cents will change anything. But it is always an interesting discussion.

[Netminder]

Another vote for Amsoil 10W40. But I have used Royal Purple as well. I think any good synthetic (with the right specs)is a wise choice. Just my 2 cents!

[vindex1963]

Why use 10W40 when the manual says to use 5W40? It cracks me up when people say they use it with "no issues." Maybe years down the road the 2nd or 3rd owner will experience the "issues."

Probably not, todays oils are excellent and if you use the correct weight and change it accordingly all JASO oils will be fine. People buy into the hype instead of the facts and the fact is "Name brand, wet clutch compatible. BAM good to go". My Uncle had an old 60's Galaxy 500 that ran 300,000+ miles before the frame rusted and broke in the 1970's running Quaker State oil without "issues". Turns out with those miles he was, in a way the 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th owner.

[BajaRon]

Probably not, todays oils are excellent and if you use the correct weight and change it accordingly all JASO oils will be fine. People buy into the hype instead of the facts and the fact is "Name brand, wet clutch compatible. BAM good to go". My Uncle had an old 60's Galaxy 500 that ran 300,000+ miles before the frame rusted and broke in the 1970's running Quaker State oil without "issues". Turns out with those miles he was, in a way the 2nd, 3rd and maybe 4th owner.

Not necessarily true. There are JASO MA2 oils out there that will slip the clutch on a 998 because of additives not conducive to this clutch. It is important for different model Spyder owners to know what specific needs their Spyder has and not assume that all Spyders are created equal. The 1330, on the other hand, is engineered to have a much more tolerant clutch mechanism and will work fine with lubricants that would slip the clutch on a 998.

[vindex1963]

Not necessarily true. There are JASO MA2 oils out there that will slip the clutch on a 998 because of additives not conducive to this clutch. It is important for different model Spyder owners to know what specific needs their Spyder has and not assume that all Spyders are created equal. The 1330, on the other hand, is engineered to have a much more tolerant clutch mechanism and will work fine with lubricants that would slip the clutch on a 998.

Examples?

[Zip]

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From Walmart

[deer30084]

The original thread was "What oil do you use ON your Spyder?" I don't use any oil on my Spyder.

[RICZ]

The original thread was "What oil do you use ON your Spyder?" I don't use any oil on my Spyder.

My mistake! I use CBD oil ON my F3 to relieve its aches and pains.