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    Default Front Wheel Alignment

    I've been studying a procedure from Lindsay Whipp for making the jig that is attached to the front wheels of the Spyder and attaching Laser levels to the Jig. I had to adjust measurements to fit my RT but made a jig from 1/2 inch cabinet grade plywood. Rare earth magnets epoxied to bolts and set at 75mm lengths with calipers and also loc tite used for security. OK... that's the set up. The targets for the lasers were set 75 inches to the rear from the center of the front hub and 32 1/16 from center of the rear wheel. Handle bars have been secured with straps to center them and centered.

    The lasers tell me that the Rt wheel is toe in by 1/2 in at 75 ihches and the left is toe out by 1/2 inch at 75 inches.

    The Bike handles with kind of a twitchy, crabbing effect. If my math is correct I am less than an 1/8 in toe in on one side and less that an 1/8 in toe out on the other. That's without any additional weight the RT.

    This is a 2018 RTL and has 1100 miles. So do I go back to the dealership give them the information. I could set it up and show them, doesn't take that long. Or do I just make the changes my self? It's under warrantee. I've got a good relationship with dealer but don't know how he will respond.
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    Go to the dealer and let them solve the problem. That's what BRP pays them to do. Your best bet is to have it aligned by a good shop using the Rolo laser alignment system. The only two dealers currently listed in MI are in Lapeer and Monroe.
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    I had my bike at the dealer yesterday for belt vibration ,and ill handling ( as in dips and dives from one side of the line to the other ) BRP will not pay for the belt idler . BRP will not pay for an alinment,as it is consider maintenance .This is from BRP care, or BRP does not give a rats hind end. This is on my 2018 RTL.
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    Agreed, BRP does not pay for alignments.
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    So... checking with http://www.spydercomfort.com/ I find that there may exist information from BRP

    On 3/25/14 BRP issues a service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2014-6. In this bulletin BRP endorses The True Laser Track patented Laser System and recommends their dealers use this revolutionary new method to align the Spyder.

    On 3/25/2015 BRP issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2015-6, endorsing True Laser track for the 2nd year in a row

    On 2/25/2016 BRP issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2016-6, endorsing True Laser track for the 3rd year in a row

    On 3/20/2017 BRP Issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2017-6 endorsing True Laser track for the 4th year in a row

    On 3/20/2018 BRP Issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2018-6 endorsing True Laser track for the 5th year in a row


    BRP seems to realize that there is an issue with the alignment.
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    2013 Spyder RTS SE5
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    Good info rvanbeek, but who pays !!!!!
    Last edited by Peter Aawen; 05-18-2022 at 07:31 AM. Reason: Fixed quote display
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    Default True Laser Trac

    Quote Originally Posted by rvanbeek View Post
    I've been studying a procedure from Lindsay Whipp for making the jig that is attached to the front wheels of the Spyder and attaching Laser levels to the Jig. I had to adjust measurements to fit my RT but made a jig from 1/2 inch cabinet grade plywood. Rare earth magnets epoxied to bolts and set at 75mm lengths with calipers and also loc tite used for security. OK... that's the set up. The targets for the lasers were set 75 inches to the rear from the center of the front hub and 32 1/16 from center of the rear wheel. Handle bars have been secured with straps to center them and centered.

    The lasers tell me that the Rt wheel is toe in by 1/2 in at 75 ihches and the left is toe out by 1/2 inch at 75 inches.

    The Bike handles with kind of a twitchy, crabbing effect. If my math is correct I am less than an 1/8 in toe in on one side and less that an 1/8 in toe out on the other. That's without any additional weight the RT.

    This is a 2018 RTL and has 1100 miles. So do I go back to the dealership give them the information. I could set it up and show them, doesn't take that long. Or do I just make the changes my self? It's under warrantee. I've got a good relationship with dealer but don't know how he will respond.
    Mike & Mike Jr. of True Laser Trac most helpful learned alot from them they know Spyder Alignment Phone 386-427-8522 have dealers all over using there system. Did mine spot on put the fun back in riding my Spyder.. Ride Safe

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    Assuming the handlebars are deadnuts center…..the Spyder is crabbing down the road…….toe in needs to be 1” to 11/4 in toe in @75 inches front to rear of front wheel center. The rear wheel rim is 8” width…….make your rear target offset from there.
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    I would go here myself.

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