ECU Flash

[DoubleA]

I got an answer back from Wick-it Performance. They are marginally higher priced than MFI ($35). Factoring in the shipping round trip to MFI, not sure which way I'll go just yet.
are the flash updates the same between the two? I thought I had seen someplace that they were the same flashes.

[troop]

Did you factor in international shipping costs/customs paper work/exchange rates/etc , as I believe Monster is in Canada. Lot less hassle shipping stateside..

[DoubleA]

I agree that staying stateside would be faster and easier. Just curious if both offer the same tunes for the ECU. If so, I'll send it to Wick-It.

[fatboy]

get monsters shipping info follow it no problem be back to you before you know it

[308gunner]

I agree that staying stateside would be faster and easier. Just curious if both offer the same tunes for the ECU. If so, I'll send it to Wick-It.

they are the same..go to wick it in Louisiana...keep it in the U.S.

[Dennis in Lodi]

they are the same..go to wick it in lousiana...keep it in the U.S.

This is a fact!!! Wick-it opens the ECU, copies and sends the files to Monster fuel who sends back the files to wick-it to install and close up the ECU. To risky mailing to Canada. If it gets stopped in customs because back logs or worst yet, it gets lost?

[jgroove]

I am seriously thinking about getting this done to my 14 STS but am torn on which setup to get. I am not a racer but need the extra power for riding two up and eventually trailering. From what I gathered so far from both Monster and Wick-It is the following:

1. Stage 2 gains more torque below 5000 rpm (in fact more torque from 3000-700)
2. Stage 1 is quieter
3. Stage 2 adds power over 1 from idle to redline at all throttle positions
4. They both give better fuel efficiency due more power to cruise or maintain a speed at a lower rpm, which will use less throttle opening (whrn running under 45% throttle)
5. Stage 2 with the power gains you can shift gears between 4000-5000
6. Stage 2 is good for riding 2 up
7. Juicebox and Power Commander not in the same league as Stage 2 but are more comparable to Stage 1
8. Handheld not available for 998s yet and the cost is $350 plus the maps Stage 1 $350 Stage 2 $500

[juscuz]

Stage 2, Nuff said.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

IMHO, from actual towing ..... I'd get the stage 2 ..... when towing you will be going slower than in normal riding ..... good luck ..... Mike

[troop]

"7. Juicebox and Power Commander not in the same league as Stage 2 but are more comparable to Stage 1"

Actually, Power Vision 3 has more than enough capability to make a tune as well as the Stage 2 Monster. Just not an adequate amount of dyno's around to fully tune a Spyder with a PV3.

[308gunner]

"7. Juicebox and Power Commander not in the same league as Stage 2 but are more comparable to Stage 1"

Actually, Power Vision 3 has more than enough capability to make a tune as well as the Stage 2 Monster. Just not an adequate amount of dyno's around to fully tune a Spyder with a PV3.

Hey did you ever get around to installing your Dynojet?

[troop]

Ha.. Soon

[DoubleA]

Thanks !

[merlot]

2. Stage 1 is quieter

not on my bike
it absolutely HONKS thru the airbox above 4 grand(so addictive)

standard cat + akra with baffles

monster stg 1?.............just do it

russ

[AY4B]

My last Spyder had a stage 1 and I loved it. Im waiting now to get my ECU back from Wick-It for a stage 2. Cant wait to see the difference! Will post once Im back up and have a good feel of the difference between stage 1 and Stage 2.

[AY4B]

I got mine back and installed yesterday. I went for a ryde and it ran good but not as fast as I expected. Not sure if it needs time to adjust or I need to remove the 1 baffle that is on the front end of my RLS cat delete. I don't really want it any louder.

[fatboy]

i have it it mine she runs like a beast

[AY4B]

Second ryde today and it was a world of difference. Its a beast today and will get even better when Ricky removes the baffle probably next week.

[Spyderman2018]

Just a heads up.. monster fuel next month is coming out with a hand programmer so you'll be able to switch between stock tune and the different stages...so you can have a tune under warranty...you need to take your Spyder to the dealer?....remove the tune..when the warranty work is done..hook up the programmer..put the tune back in.. nobody knows your business...go to monsters webpage...it's there.

Any updates on this yet??

[2dogs]

Any updates on this yet??

Been wondering also. Won't the computer keep a memory of a stage 1 or 2 install if one is done with a handheld and then returned to stock?

[Dennis in Lodi]

I got mine back and installed yesterday. I went for a ryde and it ran good but not as fast as I expected. Not sure if it needs time to adjust or I need to remove the 1 baffle that is on the front end of my RLS cat delete. I don't really want it any louder.

It takes about 200 miles to collect enough sensor input to change to new fuel tables. Out of the box it is on the same fuel tables as when you last drove it. I know people say otherwise, but I have tested close to 30 versions of the flash for Monster Fuel.

[fatboy]

i really think i would leave it in

[AY4B]

After my conversation with Ricky, I will follow his advice and remove the baffle. He explained that the noise level does not change much at all. The biggest difference is the change in back pressure. With the stage 2 tune I will gain more power with the unrestricted air flow.

[wmh9680]

Just a little Survey for those that have had the ECU Flashed on their Spyder. Could you provide how long it is that you have being riding with the upgrade and what your results have being, etc.

about a year one so from going from stage 1 to stage 2 which is fairly cheap as stage 1 is the big hit.

Loved stage one and stage 2 is great. Hope to ck it out alot soon in these crazy times. Haven't ridin yet this year

[donhy]

I must be the only one not noticing a difference between stock and Stage 1 and its been a year now, i first thought maybe it was a case of getting my ecu back without the flash but I lost my eco mode and I reved it higher than stock rpm limit so i know it got flashed. I even did a comparison with my cousin who is running stock and he actually pulls ahead all the time, he is 20lbs lighter but still.