Help with DESS

[gerald37]

Is there anyone with in 4 to 5 hundred miles of Omaha that has Megatech Licence for BUDS that will disable DESS Key code on a 2015 Spyder RT. If it could be switched off. If there is please send me an Email to geraldmathison@gmail.com.

Any were Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Dakotas.

[gerald37]

Can any one tell me if this is the correct BUDS I would have to purchase for Spyder 1014 to 2017. This is what I understand and I think it includes the code for Megateck licence. The price is $702. for one year. Is it legal to use this? I don't want it if is not legal.

https://www.powersports-diag.com/en/...hnician_1_year

[PaladinLV]

If still under Warranty, take a photo of the dash screen DESS error, bring Spyder into Dealer.
Have them open a case with BRP.
This being a 2015, the fix is TYPICALLY simpler then the 2014 which needed BOTH ignition switch and DESS Module replaced and some dealer/BRP would not do BOTH at once.

The 2015, is again TYPICALLY just the DESS module replacement which has fixed the MAJORITY of 2015s plaques by this error.

Good Luck!

AJ

Is there anyone with in 4 to 5 hundred miles of Omaha that has Megatech Licence for BUDS that will disable DESS Key code on a 2015 Spyder RT. If it could be switched off. If there is please send me an Email to geraldmathison@gmail.com.

Any were Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Dakotas.

[AY4B]

It is the right one but if you choose the Megatech license for one year it is 1100.56 dollars. for 5 years it is 1276.16.
You have to convert the currency to US dollars at the upper right corner.

[AY4B]

It has a 1 month megatech option for 714.18. It would be much cheaper to get it fixed or drive it to Houston.

[AY4B]

What would be nice is if some of the laser alignment folks that already have BUDS and travel around to the different ralleys can upgrade their license to Megatech and start providing that service to folks.

[jcthorne]

What would be nice is if some of the laser alignment folks that already have BUDS and travel around to the different ralleys can upgrade their license to Megatech and start providing that service to folks.

I can tell you I travel with BUDS and have done several at rallys. Did a couple at Spyders on the Bayou.

I will be in the Dakotas and Nebraska around Labor Day on a group bike trip.

[Bob Denman]

What would be nice is if some of the laser alignment folks that already have BUDS and travel around to the different ralleys can upgrade their license to Megatech and start providing that service to folks.

...That would be nice!
Are you willing to pay for that upgrade?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

If still under Warranty, take a photo of the dash screen DESS error, bring Spyder into Dealer.
Have them open a case with BRP.
This being a 2015, the fix is TYPICALLY simpler then the 2014 which needed BOTH ignition switch and DESS Module replaced and some dealer/BRP would not do BOTH at once.

The 2015, is again TYPICALLY just the DESS module replacement which has fixed the MAJORITY of 2015s plaques by this error.

Good Luck!

AJ

Why this " take a picture thing " is still being advised as proof of the DESS failure I really don't understand .......... EVERYTHING that occurs on any Spyder is logged into the computers and can be retrieved by using B.U.D.S ...which every dealer has !!!!!! and in 2014 only SOME DESS failures required both .... Mine failed and only the Module was replaced , that was two years and 15,000 miles ago ........ Mike

[PMK]

The DESS module, and ensure you are getting the most current part number is not that expensive or difficult to replace. Any dealer can order it, or even you could mail order it. Probably a 1 hour task if you have the ability to work on your own machine.

Last time I checked, a new module wad around $130.

[gerald37]

I rode over two miles yesterday to three of the closest dealers I have and they did not know what I was talking about the DESS Key.

[AY4B]

I rode over two miles yesterday to three of the closest dealers I have and they did not know what I was talking about the DESS Key.

JC explained it to me when I was there. BRP does not pay for a Megatech licence for the dealers so they do not upgrade to it. The Techs that work at the dealers can only work with what they are given. It is not that much difference between getting a regular dealers license and a Megatech license and he did not understand why they did not pay the difference. Probably its just policy just like installing car tires is against policy.

[UtahPete]

I rode over two miles yesterday to three of the closest dealers I have and they did not know what I was talking about the DESS Key.

You have 3 Spyder dealers within 2 miles?

[PaladinLV]

Tell them to READ their F'n Service Bulletins!
Hate lazy ass techs
AJ

I rode over two miles yesterday to three of the closest dealers I have and they did not know what I was talking about the DESS Key.

[AY4B]

Why this " take a picture thing " is still being advised as proof of the DESS failure I really don't understand .......... EVERYTHING that occurs on any Spyder is logged into the computers and can be retrieved by using B.U.D.S ...which every dealer has !!!!!! and in 2014 only SOME DESS failures required both .... Mine failed and only the Module was replaced , that was two years and 15,000 miles ago ........ Mike

I remember well Mike! you had your Spyder all disassembled at your hotel room and it was down most of that Spyderfest. I was glad it was not me, then the following year, I got the DESS error right before Spyderfest. JC offered to turn mine off for free if I drove to Houston. I took him up on it.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I remember well Mike! you had your Spyder all disassembled at your hotel room and it was down most of that Spyderfest. I was glad it was not me, then the following year, I got the DESS error right before Spyderfest. JC offered to turn mine off for free if I drove to Houston. I took him up on it.

" MOSTLY DOWN "- Not really just the 5 min. it took for the BRP techs to swap out the module ( seriously only 5 min. ) and I can take and or re-place my Frunk in about 15 min...... ... Mike

[Vaden]

I live in Texas. Can anyone tell me if they’re is someone who can disable my dess. Willing to travel. Thanks

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Its not fixed. Have seen it on a 2018 (which we turned off). The 2014s were widespread, later bikes not so much but it still happens.

Have never seen this on a single 2013 or earlier.

[Spyder-Mel]

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[jcthorne]

Thanks guys. I was working on a customers bike so not on the forum this morning.

Yes, I can handle turning off your DESS if you would like to drive down to Houston.

[Spyderlass]

To replace the DESS module it is not necessary to remove the front trunk.

Remove the battery cover, two screws.
Remove the battery clamp and the battery.
Access the module on the chassis rail above the battery compartment and remove the two screws using a spanner (wrench).
Disconnect the DESS cable connectors from the wiring harness.
If your DESS is faulty, clip through the cable to release it from the cable tie which fastens the excess cable to the chassis.

If you wish to save your module because it is still good you need to clip through the cable support tie which holds the cable to the chassis rail - this is tricky because access is limited. Alternatively, as I did, just cut clean through the cable and rejoin the cable once it's out of the vehicle.

Connect your replacement DESS module connectors to the wiring harness and move the module to the side.
Replace the battery and its clamp.
Cable tie the DESS module to the top of the battery clamp to allow easy access in the future.
Replace the battery cover.
Go riding!

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

To replace the DESS module it is not necessary to remove the front trunk.

Remove the battery cover, two screws.
Remove the battery clamp and the battery.
Access the module on the chassis rail above the battery compartment and remove the two screws using a spanner (wrench).
Disconnect the DESS cable connectors from the wiring harness.
If your DESS is faulty, clip through the cable to release it from the cable tie which fastens the excess cable to the chassis.

If you wish to save your module because it is still good you need to clip through the cable support tie which holds the cable to the chassis rail - this is tricky because access is limited. Alternatively, as I did, just cut clean through the cable and rejoin the cable once it's out of the vehicle.

Connect your replacement DESS module connectors to the wiring harness and move the module to the side.
Replace the battery and its clamp.
Cable tie the DESS module to the top of the battery clamp to allow easy access in the future.
Replace the battery cover.
Go riding!

This is very interesting … we both have RT's and I have re-moved and moved my DESS module to another location …...( see pics in my new Album " Dess Module " ) I re-moved my Frunk to do this... because imho it can't be accessed any other way …. I'll let the viewer decide if it can be done using your method …. in Pic #2, when the Frunk is in place you can't see the module, or the bolts that hold it to the frame, or the wires, or how they are attached to the frame.... I apologize for not being able to post the pics on this post …… Mike

[Spyderlass]

No you can't directly see in there but you can crane your neck or use a mirror to have a peek then work by feel. It's just two M6 screws attaching the unit to the frame. If your DESS is bad, and it likely is or you wouldn't be in there, there is no loss in clipping the cable to remove it from the cable tie.

[AY4B]

I had my second DESS error last week. My spyder is still under warranty so I will have it replaced under warranty to avoid making a special trip to Houston or Arkansas to disable it. I did have a conversation with my service guy asking if they have a megetech license to turn it off. He is checking on it but they have the new module on order and will replace it.

[duke50]

Who do I contact to disable my dess in Mo, IL, or Arkansas