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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
In this case, as many others, I don't really KNOW if I agree with him or not.
Because he finds a need to try and make his posts "cute" but instead they just come out obtuse and confusing.
But then......when he goes off on a tirade against me......the verbiage is absolutely 100% clear.....except for the part where he makes a feeble attempt to explain the original post.
Do YOU understand what that first post about body temperature means ??
That's just Mike. He doesn't mean anything by it. No need to get upset.
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THAT'S JUST Mike
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Yeah but, what are you two guys accomplishing by ranting at each other? It's not even the Off Topic forum.
Kinda unrelated to the thread topic don't ya think? (Unless you're dealing with a different kind of 'heat in the cockpit' )
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I never claimed to be perfect, Mike! But, I'm getting close!
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
In this case, as many others, I don't really KNOW if I agree with him or not. Because he finds a need to try and make his posts "cute" but instead they just come out obtuse and confusing. But then......when he goes off on a tirade against me......the verbiage is absolutely 100% clear.....except for the part where he makes a feeble attempt to explain the original post. Do YOU understand what that first post about body temperature means ??
Honestly, Easy Rider, you are on my ignore list because too many of your posts were upsetting to me. That doesn't mean you had nothing valuable to say - it's just the way you say it is more inflammatory than it needs to be, I think. I was the same way with Mike for a long time (although back then I wasn't using the 'ignore' feature - I just tried to understand why he seemed so hostile in his posts). Since then, I've come to appreciate Mike for his honesty and expertise. Yes, I do have to read through what he's saying to understand his point (AND sometimes I think he's being obstinate in insisting that his is the only way to look at things), but for me it's worth the effort.
Now, can you both just drop this - or take it to private messages? Thanks.
Last edited by UtahPete; 05-26-2018 at 07:14 PM.
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
(AND sometimes I think he's being obstinate in insisting that his is the only way to look at things),
What ? How dare you suggest that he is not perfect.
As for being "inflammatory", sometimes the truth isn't pretty and trying to candy-coat it doesn't serve any useful purpose.
I posted a 2 sentence question asking him to explain his message......and look what a crap-fest resulted.
I'll take the blame.....if you really think I deserve it....really.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
What ? How dare you suggest that he is not perfect. As for being "inflammatory", sometimes the truth isn't pretty and trying to candy-coat it doesn't serve any useful purpose. I posted a 2 sentence question asking him to explain his message......and look what a crap-fest resulted. I'll take the blame.....if you really think I deserve it....really.
I'm not assigning blame. That would be judgmental and I try to avoid being that (not always successful). I don't 'blame' anyone. I'm just pointing out that what started out with the best of intentions has deteriorated into a slug-fest that doesn't benefit anyone.
When I say your posts are inflammatory (for me), it's because you are either stating as fact something that can only be opinion, or worse, are using inflammatory language to express your distaste for those whose world-view is different than your own (and mine usually is). That is far different than presenting 'truth' that is independently verifiable. No matter, you are who you are and I am who I am and we upset each other so who needs that?
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Sooooooo. Back to my post. Took the Tupperware off today. There is acoustic foam under the front panels but nothing heat reflective. I installed the two heat reflective pieces that came with the vent kit. Brackets in the vent kit were not installed as our 2017 already has the brackets.
I see why the glovebox gets hot, there is one skinny skinny skinny piece of insulation. Probably less than 1/8 inch thick. Have a picture but don’t know how to post the picture from my phone. Wish this site still used an app.
Next step is to try the weather strip suggestion. Then I want to try to get some additional insulation under the glovebox. And finally the install of the scoops. Since the scoops require body modification that will be the last thing I attempt.
As for the 102 temp on the seat, my Harley seat registered 86 after same ride so definitely more heat with the Spyder. Probably because there is a lot more airflow with the Harley. But I do appreciate the anatomy lesson 😂
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Originally Posted by viiiball
Next step is to try the weather strip suggestion.
It took me a couple of tries to get it positioned just right so it would seal fairly good without getting ripped off every time the seat closes.
The stuff I used has a paper backing and I did not remove that; don't know how long that will last. I suspect it will have to be replaced every year or so.
I thought I had seen a dark grey high density glove box insulator that was about a half inch thick......but that memory might be mixed up with something else.
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
In this case, as many others, I don't really KNOW if I agree with him or not.
Because he finds a need to try and make his posts "cute" but instead they just come out obtuse and confusing.
But then......when he goes off on a tirade against me......the verbiage is absolutely 100% clear.....except for the part where he makes a feeble attempt to explain the original post.
Do YOU understand what that first post about body temperature means ??
I do understand what he is saying. Body temperature is 98 .... when you sit on the seat for a period of time, the seat becomes at 98 degrees like your butt. So, 102 is only 4 degrees more, therefore not really burning hot......
Really simple to understand, when you want to......
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Originally Posted by Richardv
therefore not really burning hot......
Really simple to understand, when you want to......
One has to be able to understand the original question .......in order to offer useful replies, I guess.
I'm pretty sure that the original complaint was "uncomfortably hot", not "burning hot".
And I'm relatively sure that almost everybody who is subjected to heat at 98 F will find it uncomfortable.
Last edited by Easy Rider; 05-27-2018 at 01:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by Mr. White
If I do, I don't notice it.
Different people have different comfort thresholds for all kinds of things.
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I put a piece of 1/2" foam in the bottom of the " glove box" . Mostly to keep my personal protective device from rattling around. BUT, now that I keep it on my person, the box is full of other stuff. None of it is hot. Sun burn lotion tube is not swollen, electronic tire pressure gauge works normally. Other items are NOT hot to the touch.
By the way this is after riding for over 3 hours in the so. UTAH DESERT.
Hope the heat problems get solved.
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Originally Posted by Lew L
I put a piece of 1/2" foam in the bottom of the " glove box" . Mostly to keep my personal protective device from rattling around. BUT, now that I keep it on my person, the box is full of other stuff. None of it is hot. Sun burn lotion tube is not swollen, electronic tire pressure gauge works normally. Other items are NOT hot to the touch.
By the way this is after riding for over 3 hours in the so. UTAH DESERT.
Hope the heat problems get solved.
Lew L
It would suck to have those rounds cooking off!
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Rounds,rounds?..... many hundreds of degrees to " cook off" any ammo, and so much less powerful. Now they are at body temperature .
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Originally Posted by Lew L
Rounds,rounds?..... many hundreds of degrees to " cook off" any ammo, and so much less powerful. Now they are at body temperature Lew L
It was meant as a joke Lew
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
It was meant as a joke Lew
Sure_Pete,
I know, no offense taken.
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