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    The dog could have overheated in the bin.We have pugs,and they cannot take any kind of heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    Back in the day when you paid by the carload to go to the drive-in movies or amusement parks we stuffed 5 to 6 people in the trunk of a car (when cars were 15' long). They all had air. IMO similar..........
    Sure... for the 10 minutes to get past the gate. This was a three and a half-hour flight.
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    bottom line.
    Placing a dog in an overhead compartment is directly contradictory to United Airlines' policy on pets in the cabin.
    The flight attendant should not have required that.
    The dog's owner should have refused to comply.



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    Default Stupidity all around...

    I'm a dog owner myself (whippets) and I just cannot fathom how this grave error in judgement could have happened, both on the part of the stewardess and the owner. I can only imagine the distress this dog must have experienced from the moment the overhead bin door was shut. I simply cannot understand why at any point during the 3+ hour flight NO ONE thought to check on the dog's condition. If I had been sitting nearby, I know I would have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ofdave View Post
    bottom line.
    Placing a dog in an overhead compartment is directly contradictory to United Airlines' policy on pets in the cabin.
    The flight attendant should not have required that.
    The dog's owner should have refused to comply.
    The report I read said the passenger adamantly refused, which was heard by witnesses. In the end the flight attended won out. Is that true? I don't know. United will be changing their policy for pets in April. Each pet owner will now be given a bright colored tag to be displayed on the carrier. I guess we can arm chair this all we want. United is staying in touch with the family of the pet.

    On a brighter note, a German Shepherd on Tuesday that had to fly on a different United flight than its owners was accidentally flown to Japan instead of Kansas, and will be united with its owners.

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    But think of the Frequent Flier Miles, that the Shepherd earned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    The report I read said the passenger adamantly refused, which was heard by witnesses. In the end the flight attended won out. Is that true? I don't know. United will be changing their policy for pets in April. Each pet owner will now be given a bright colored tag to be displayed on the carrier. I guess we can arm chair this all we want. United is staying in touch with the family of the pet.

    On a brighter note, a German Shepherd on Tuesday that had to fly on a different United flight than its owners was accidentally flown to Japan instead of Kansas, and will be united with its owners.

    That's interesting..... The linked report said this.
    A passenger on the flight told ABC News that the flight attendant didn't know there was a dog in the bag when she insisted on moving it to the overhead compartment. Upon hearing that there was a dog in the bag after the flight landed the flight attendant "seemed frazzled and shocked," the passenger said. "She said that she did not know there was a dog in the bag, and if so she never would have instructed it to be put in the bin above."
    Who do we believe ?????



    On a brighter note.......How did this German Shepherd survive ?????


    If the oxygen runs out on a plane during a 3 hour flight in the US, how can a plane make it all the way to Japan ???? Do they stop and open the doors to refuel the oxygen ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    On a brighter note.......How did this German Shepherd survive ?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    That's interesting..... The linked report said this.
    A passenger on the flight told ABC News that the flight attendant didn't know there was a dog in the bag when she insisted on moving it to the overhead compartment. Upon hearing that there was a dog in the bag after the flight landed the flight attendant "seemed frazzled and shocked," the passenger said. "She said that she did not know there was a dog in the bag, and if so she never would have instructed it to be put in the bin above."
    Who do we believe ?????



    On a brighter note.......How did this German Shepherd survive ?????


    If the oxygen runs out on a plane during a 3 hour flight in the US, how can a plane make it all the way to Japan ???? Do they stop and open the doors to refuel the oxygen ?????
    Check out the last bullet statement here:

    https://www.flysas.com/en/travel-inf...in-cargo-hold/


    Check out 4th paragraph here:

    http://people.com/pets/united-airlin...ing-dog-death/

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    Several of us have been wondering exactly who is on the other end of the keyboard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Several of us have been wondering exactly who is on the other end of the keyboard...

    I know how you guys feel. I've been wondering who Charlie Browns teacher and Mr. Willard (from Home Improvement) is for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Several of us have been wondering exactly who is on the other end of the keyboard...
    maybe it depends on how they identify themselves on a given day



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    I have 2 mini Schnauzers .. love them both.. NO ONE WOULD MAKE ME PUT THEM IN AN OVERHEAD BIN... I would have disembarked the plane ...

    just read this on MSN: looks like a criminal probe is launched against United... I sincerely hope they get taken to the cleaners over this.. but.. it surely won't help that poor little puppy that died a horrible death..


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cr...dYC?ocid=edgsp

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    Let's put a face to this event...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    I know how you guys feel. I've been wondering who Charlie Browns teacher and Mr. Willard (from Home Improvement) is for years.
    FYI......Charlie Brown's teacher is Miss Othmar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OJ UK View Post
    FYI......Charlie Brown's teacher is Miss Othmar.



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    Silly boys.......................



    Charlie Brown's Teacher is Mrs. Donovan
    Linus's Teacher is Miss Othmar.
    But we would never really know, because in California there are now 72 genders .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Several of us have been wondering exactly who is on the other end of the keyboard...
    I wonder no more. He/she/it is IGNORED.

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    Not so fast...

    http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Othmar


    Charlie Brown was also taught by Miss Othmar... at least some of the time!
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    Several things come to mind regarding the French Bulldog who died in an overhead bin:

    The flight attendant deserves to be fired. She knew clearly that a live animal was in the crate (multiple passengers have said they heard the owner telling her this) and still she argued. She is either incompetent or just fooking dumb and does not deserve to be a "safety" person on an airline.

    The owner should have asked to see the captain as soon as the flight attendant began arguing. The captain knows his aircraft and would instantly have known that it is not a good place for any living animal. (My ex-wife used to fly for Eastern in the old days and the JFK to Puerto Rico flight was notorious for passengers putting their tiny babies in the overhead.)

    If the captain didn't give her a solution she should have deplaned and notified airport security and the local admin for United.

    BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE a plane filled with Americans would allow this to happen. WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY??!?!?!?!?!?! Multiple passengers have said they witnessed the verbal exchange and heard the dog barking during the flight. AND NOBODY TOOK ONE MINUTE TO POP OPEN THE BIN AND CHECK ON THE DOG? I am so fookin pissed at those people I really don't want to be associated with any of them - ever. And calling them "Americans" is a crock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holly View Post
    Silly boys.......................



    Charlie Brown's Teacher is Mrs. Donovan
    Linus's Teacher is Miss Othmar.
    But we would never really know, because in California there are now 72 genders .........

    You're correct! Almost. Miss Othmar was Charlie Brown's teacher in the Peanuts Movie but, yes, in the comic strip Miss Othmar
    is Linus van Pelt's teacher. During the 60s, in the strip Charlie Brown used to sit behind Linus in class, so I think it's reasonable to assume that
    he was occasionally taught by Miss Othmar.

    http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Othmar This is my reference. I collect the books and I have around 40 of them.
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    Yup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinconRyder View Post
    Several things come to mind regarding the French Bulldog who died in an overhead bin:

    The flight attendant deserves to be fired. She knew clearly that a live animal was in the crate (multiple passengers have said they heard the owner telling her this) and still she argued. She is either incompetent or just fooking dumb and does not deserve to be a "safety" person on an airline.

    The owner should have asked to see the captain as soon as the flight attendant began arguing. The captain knows his aircraft and would instantly have known that it is not a good place for any living animal. (My ex-wife used to fly for Eastern in the old days and the JFK to Puerto Rico flight was notorious for passengers putting their tiny babies in the overhead.)

    If the captain didn't give her a solution she should have deplaned and notified airport security and the local admin for United.

    BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE a plane filled with Americans would allow this to happen. WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY??!?!?!?!?!?! Multiple passengers have said they witnessed the verbal exchange and heard the dog barking during the flight. AND NOBODY TOOK ONE MINUTE TO POP OPEN THE BIN AND CHECK ON THE DOG? I am so fookin pissed at those people I really don't want to be associated with any of them - ever. And calling them "Americans" is a crock!



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