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03-12-2018, 01:32 PM
#101
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Pete, But couldn't this be your bias.. against his bias? My head is starting to hurt...
Bob, he's making such a broad statement about the conditions in NY and how 'liberals' behave, I don't think it's my bias (and yes, I do have them) bringing his claims into question.
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03-12-2018, 01:33 PM
#102
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03-12-2018, 01:34 PM
#103
Originally Posted by UtahPete
Bob, he's making such a broad statement about the conditions in NY and how 'liberals' behave, I don't think it's my bias (and yes, I do have them) bringing his claims into question.
But he DOES liver there, and he is trying to run a business...
I'd trust his take on the situation; he has to see what is going on there... every day!
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03-12-2018, 01:36 PM
#104
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03-12-2018, 01:40 PM
#105
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03-12-2018, 01:41 PM
#106
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
Don't you think maybe that's just your bias?
perhaps so but don't you think it could be true? if deblasio really wanted to help nyc then he probably wouldn't
be renting out his house for over $5k/month while he & his family live in the mayors mansion. nyc liberals ask
and take more then they are willing to give and NO that is not my opinion or bias.
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03-12-2018, 01:49 PM
#107
I think that he should convert his house into a homeless shelter...
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03-12-2018, 01:56 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I think that he should convert his house into a homeless shelter...
i have said that for many years, but since he is a liberal he doesn't want to spend HIS money on others, it should only
be public money like when he gave a $100k grant to an anti american hate group with ties to Hamas.
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03-12-2018, 02:08 PM
#109
Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
i have said that for many years, but since he is a liberal he doesn't want to spend HIS money on others, it should only
be public money like when he gave a $100k grant to an anti american hate group with ties to Hamas.
You don't think there is anything wrong with saying this? You don't think this is a bigoted statement?
Never mind. Judging from your history of posts, I'd say the answer is no to both questions.
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03-12-2018, 02:18 PM
#110
Pete,
I have to ask: how would YOU describe Bill DiBlasio?
Personally: I think that calling him a "Liberal"; seems rather polite...
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03-12-2018, 02:24 PM
#111
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
Pete, I have to ask: how would YOU describe Bill DiBlasio? Personally: I think that calling him a "Liberal"; seems rather polite...
I think he probably is a liberal. That's not what I was objecting to. I was objecting to the bigoted statement (and all the other similarly bigoted statements on this forum) that 'because he's a liberal, then ..... whatever'.
That is absurd. You can't make broad statements about a certain class of people (liberals, democrats, blacks, muslims, vegetarians) without expecting to be called out on it.
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03-12-2018, 02:28 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by UtahPete
You don't think there is anything wrong with saying this? You don't think this is a bigoted statement?
Never mind. Judging from your history of posts, I'd say the answer is no to both questions.
pete usually when i make statements like that i base it on a little known thing called facts. at any time i can back
up what i say but that would be pointless to you.
Oh by the way under the first amendment i am allowed to make those statements, under the first amendment
i am allowed to lie and the aclu would have to back me up.
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03-12-2018, 02:33 PM
#113
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03-12-2018, 02:36 PM
#114
Originally Posted by UtahPete
That is absurd. You can't make broad statements about a certain class of people (liberals, democrats, blacks, muslims, vegetarians) without expecting to be called out on it.
This is funny: I didn't se a single mention of:
Republicans
Conservatives
Whites
Middle-Class
Firearms enthusiasts
or even
Males
Wassup wit DAT?
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03-12-2018, 03:09 PM
#115
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
This is funny: I didn't se a single mention of:
Republicans
Conservatives
Whites
Middle-Class
Firearms enthusiasts
or even
Males
Wassup wit DAT?
I was using examples of groups of people about which any broad statements would be unsupportable and based only on the speaker's biases.
E.g. "All white males are mysoginists"
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03-12-2018, 03:53 PM
#116
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Pete is the statement bigoted even if it is true?
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03-12-2018, 04:13 PM
#117
Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
Pete is the statement bigoted even if it is true?
No, what makes a statement bigoted is to say that a person belongs to a certain class of people and that certain class of people is defined by a certain set of characteristics.
If you want to say that in your opinion Blasio is running the city into the ground, that's one thing.
But it's another thing altogether to say that he and all liberals are selfish socialists looking for a handout, or are anti-gun, or are un-American or whatever, and that since (in your opinion) Blasio belongs to the 'liberal' class, then he and they are ..... fill in the blanks.
Most of your statements tend to be blanket condemnations of a certain class of people that you don't happen to like - that's bigoted.
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03-12-2018, 04:27 PM
#118
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03-12-2018, 05:34 PM
#119
Originally Posted by UtahPete
I was using examples of groups of people about which any broad statements would be unsupportable and based only on the speaker's biases.
E.g. "All white males are misogynists"
I KNOW that this one is false: we're actually all masochists!
As a group: we tend to marry while females!
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03-12-2018, 05:48 PM
#120
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by UtahPete
No, what makes a statement bigoted is to say that a person belongs to a certain class of people and that certain class of people is defined by a certain set of characteristics.
If you want to say that in your opinion Blasio is running the city into the ground, that's one thing.
But it's another thing altogether to say that he and all liberals are selfish socialists looking for a handout, or are anti-gun, or are un-American or whatever, and that since (in your opinion) Blasio belongs to the 'liberal' class, then he and they are ..... fill in the blanks.
Most of your statements tend to be blanket condemnations of a certain class of people that you don't happen to like - that's bigoted.
pete why are you trying to interpret what i say instead of just reading it and taking on face value? it seems you are
much more bigoted or opinionated then you allow others to be.
deblasio is liberal, not an opinion, he rents his house out for top dollar and does not donate any of his properties
to allow the poor or homeless to stay in. as mayor of ny he did give a $100k grant to a woman who runs an organization that IS anti american and her family Does have ties to hamas and family members have been arrested for it. If you lived in ny you would know of many many other things he has done for personal gain and of little concern to the working class and he is also very hated by nypd and fdny as he has offended them many times. Please tell me of what i have said is bigoted, racist or opinionated in any way.
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03-12-2018, 05:50 PM
#121
Al,
It might help if you listed some of the sources for your information...
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03-12-2018, 06:02 PM
#122
Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
pete why are you trying to interpret what i say instead of just reading it and taking on face value? it seems you are much more bigoted or opinionated then you allow others to be. deblasio is liberal, not an opinion, he rents his house out for top dollar and does not donate any of his properties to allow the poor or homeless to stay in. he did give a $100k grant to a woman who runs an organization that IS anti american and her family Does have ties to hamas and family members have been arrested for it. If you lived in ny you would know of many many other things he has done for personal gain and of little concern to the working class and he is also very hated by nypd and fdny as he has offended them many times. Please tell me of what i have said is bigoted, racist or opinionated in any way.
I quit. As a wise man once said;
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
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03-13-2018, 07:06 AM
#123
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by UtahPete
I quit. As a wise man once said;
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
try being a wise man and you might
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03-13-2018, 04:58 PM
#124
Wow! Still not shutdown, way off topic, but still going! Amazing.
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03-13-2018, 05:24 PM
#125
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