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03-01-2018, 06:23 PM
#126
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03-01-2018, 06:26 PM
#127
 Originally Posted by Bob Denman
That's an avatar, Bob. Don't get so excited!
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03-01-2018, 06:27 PM
#128
Originally Posted by Fatcycledaddy
From BBC News
All shootings: Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted.
From UPI
ATLANTA, Dec. 23 (UPI) -- Several recent studies have shown epidemic use of prescription opioids and heroin, but new data show Americans are drinking themselves to death in record numbers.
More than 30,700 people died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver last year, and when factoring in deaths from alcohol-related DUI the total number of alcohol-related deaths rises to more than 88,000, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
6.6 times the the number of deaths caused by something that is available in almost every convenience store, left unattended and readily available in almost every home, and could be totally preventable.
I say we confiscate it all and then sort it out and only give it back to the people who prove they can handle it and drink responsibly.
I don't want to out law it all, just get rid of any of the LARGE containers, because no one needs that much ant any one time, the only thing it could be used for is to get drunk. We could limit it to just what could be drank at any one time without it getting you drunk.
Then we need to make sure that we limit the high alcoholic content products, those also are not needed by the average person and are just used to get you drunk making it easier for you to die or have an accident killing others.
We then need to make sure that NO ONE has more than a limited supply in their homes, if they have more it should be confiscate destroyed, and the offender should be arrested.
That is just applying the same rules to alcohol, a greater killer than guns will ever be, that most liberals want to apply to guns.
Sounds pretty absurd when you apply those same rules to something that is not a constitutional right, and yet the constitutional right is under fire.
It's a fallacious argument because the people who died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver did it to themselves by intentionally ingesting alcohol, whereas gun deaths are almost always either an unintentional accident by the owner of the gun or the result of someone deliberately pulling the trigger to harm someone else. The only gun deaths that would be comparable would be suicide by gun.
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03-01-2018, 06:27 PM
#129
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03-01-2018, 06:28 PM
#130
Originally Posted by UtahPete
That's an avatar, Bob. Don't get so excited!
She's an old friend (Not age-wise), that I've known for years... 
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03-01-2018, 06:35 PM
#131
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
She's an old friend (Not age-wise), that I've known for years...
Just having a little fun with you, Bob.
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03-01-2018, 06:38 PM
#132
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03-01-2018, 06:46 PM
#133
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03-01-2018, 07:13 PM
#134
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by johnsimion
It's a fallacious argument because the people who died from alcohol poisoning and cirrhosis of the liver did it to themselves by intentionally ingesting alcohol, whereas gun deaths are almost always either an unintentional accident by the owner of the gun or the result of someone deliberately pulling the trigger to harm someone else. The only gun deaths that would be comparable would be suicide by gun.
But the people killed by the drunk drivers, doctors, pilots, or any other of the thousands of intoxicated people didn't. That's why the numbers I used had suicides removed from them.
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03-01-2018, 07:19 PM
#135
Originally Posted by Holly
Hey Bob !!!!!! How did you like my AAA analogy ? That will send those anti gun lefties over the edge ! 
mic drop.jpg
Dream on, Holly! Dream on.
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03-01-2018, 07:21 PM
#136
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Holly
With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.
The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?
BOYCOTT AAA NOW ! 
No the motorcycle argument would work also, I just used something b that is more common to the general public than a motorcycle.
The point being we do not need a few mandating what a law abiding citizen can and cannot own. You can let your opinion of a company or organization by either boycotting or supporting it.
I choose to support the NRA and those company's who support it. I choose not to support those who do not. I will not try to mandate what others do.
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03-01-2018, 07:26 PM
#137
Originally Posted by Fatcycledaddy
No the motorcycle argument would work also, I just used something b that is more common to the general public than a motorcycle.
The point being we do not need a few mandating what a law abiding citizen can and cannot own. You can let your opinion of a company or organization by either boycotting or supporting it. I choose to support the NRA and those company's who support it. I choose not to support those who do not. I will not try to mandate what others do.
I think the vast majority of Americans, regardless of party affiliation, would agree with that.
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03-01-2018, 08:43 PM
#138
Originally Posted by Holly
With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.
The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?
Tired old rose food.....and brainless to boot.
Unless you are talking about tanks vehicles are not manufactured as deadly weapons. They can certainly be misused as such but that is not a valid argument. Their value as transportation galactically exceeds their use as weapons. And for that matter your Spyder could probably off a nun and two orphans if you tried very hard.
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03-01-2018, 09:15 PM
#139
Very Active Member
How is this thread doing ?
It seems I've put most of you on ignore previously, I'm only able to read what Bob Denman is saying.
If it ain't broke, don't break it.
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03-01-2018, 10:01 PM
#140
Originally Posted by RinconRyder
The most recent one? Las Vegas
not so the concert venue and the Mandely bay were both gun free areas
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03-01-2018, 10:44 PM
#141
Originally Posted by r1100rider
not so the concert venue and the Mandely bay were both gun free areas
There seems to be considerable difference of opinion on whether Mandelay Bay was GF or whether GF could be enforced. Apparently the only action the hotel could take was ask the gun bearer to leave the premises.
In any case it means practically nothing as a shooter with a semi-auto and concealed position could lay waste to a considerable number of citizens armed with handguns.
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03-01-2018, 10:48 PM
#142
Originally Posted by RinconRyder
There seems to be considerable difference of opinion on whether Mandelay Bay was GF or whether GF could be enforced. Apparently the only action the hotel could take was ask the gun bearer to leave the premises.
In any case it means practically nothing as a shooter with a semi-auto and concealed position could lay waste to a considerable number of citizens armed with handguns.
And the concert was gun free which ment they had no way to fire back and the hotel calls them selfs gun free
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03-01-2018, 11:01 PM
#143
Originally Posted by Holly
With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.
The last time I checked, cars and motorcycles kill 10's of thousands more people per year than guns. Or does this not fit the left narrative because you own one ?
BOYCOTT AAA NOW !
funny that cars come up think about this , you are standing in front of the cpsc with this new idea for a 4000 lbs object that will be travelling 60 mph 10 ft away from people on sidewalks ,good luck with getting approval for that one in 2018
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03-02-2018, 07:47 AM
#144
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03-02-2018, 08:08 AM
#145
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Holly
Hey Bob !!!!!!
How did you like my AAA analogy ? That will send those anti gun lefties over the edge !
mic drop.jpg
when you say you don't always drop the mic, are you referring to the wee little people?
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03-02-2018, 08:13 AM
#146
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
what does the nra & the 2nd amendment say about owning one of those? really i would like the know.
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03-02-2018, 08:21 AM
#147
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03-02-2018, 10:17 AM
#148
Originally Posted by Holly
With your logic I hope you are calling for boycotting AAA and company's that give discounts to their members until we get these killing vehicle's off the road.
That's a BS smoke screen and you know it.
Guns have only ONE purpose: to kill things.
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03-02-2018, 10:22 AM
#149
Last edited by Bob Denman; 03-02-2018 at 10:50 AM.
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03-02-2018, 11:36 AM
#150
Originally Posted by Easy Rider
That's a BS smoke screen and you know it.
Guns have only ONE purpose: to kill things.
Today I'm calling for Sensible Knife Control.
Knives kill way more people per year than guns and it's time we take a stand against this killing machines. Knives are designed for ONE propose and that is to slice and dice. I'm calling for all kitchen cutlery to be confiscated and the government will issue one 3" dull butter knife per household. It's time we end this violence with knives. 
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Last edited by Holly; 03-02-2018 at 11:43 AM.
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