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    I saw a video thought was interesting. It was on MSNBC yesterday. I found it today on Google. Man destroys AR-15. Look closely, he doesn't destroy it. he only shortened the barrel. That makes it an unregistered short barreled rifle subject to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He did not destroy the receiver (which is the serial numbered part. Would be interesting if anyone in authority saw it and contacted the individual.

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    Seems like the discussion about the FBI seemingly dropping the ball has been replaced by coverage of the students.

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    Could be he was just planning a barrel / foreguard upgrade. Though I wonder what kinda muzzle flash, range, and accuracy that microbarrel AR-15 would have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinegunner View Post
    I saw a video thought was interesting. It was on MSNBC yesterday. I found it today on Google. Man destroys AR-15. Look closely, he doesn't destroy it. he only shortened the barrel. That makes it an unregistered short barreled rifle subject to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. He did not destroy the receiver (which is the serial numbered part. Would be interesting if anyone in authority saw it and contacted the individual.
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    i don't own a gun or rifle but i was wondering what is the purpose of an ar15, what is it made to do?

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    It is just a rifle, just like any other semi-automatic rifle. It is used for hunting, target shooting, and competitive shooting. It doesn't have a mind of its own. Probably the most popular rifle in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinegunner View Post
    It is just a rifle, just like any other semi-automatic rifle. It is used for hunting, target shooting, and competitive shooting. It doesn't have a mind of its own. Probably the most popular rifle in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinegunner View Post
    It is just a rifle, just like any other semi-automatic rifle. It is used for hunting, target shooting, and competitive shooting. It doesn't have a mind of its own. Probably the most popular rifle in the US.
    not being a gun guy i always thought a semi automatic rifle was made for killing people. what kind of animals would you hunt with that rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    not being a gun guy i always thought a semi automatic rifle was made for killing people. what kind of animals would you hunt with that rifle?
    Deer ,Antelope, varmites, Coyotes, Elk are a little big but you could bring one down with an AR-15. I am sure there are others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    not being a gun guy what kind of animals would you hunt with that rifle?
    According to American Hunter article, .223 is one of the top 5 varmint and predator cartridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    i don't own a gun or rifle but i was wondering what is the purpose of an ar15, what is it made to do?
    May I offer an opinion? I think the AR-15 and other similarly designed semi-automatic rifles are supposed to appeal to buyers who want the intimidating appearance of a real assault weapon. As Lew pointed out it's more of a marketing gimmick than anything else.
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    I find it interesting that some of defining factors of a so called "assault rifle" are the black plastic stock, flash suppressor, pistol grip and the ability to carry a bayonet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saluda View Post
    I find it interesting that some of defining factors of a so called "assault rifle" are the black plastic stock, flash suppressor, pistol grip and the ability to carry a bayonet.

    There are morehens teeth than AR-15's ( and the like) that have a bayonet lug.---- well a bit of a joke.



    While in the Army I modified some M-14's to full auto ( Very easy to do with the ONE correct part). It had a bayonet lug but no black plastic nor pistol grip. I would call it an assault rifle. It was impossible to keep on target in full auto selection mode. But a good one ( and good marksman)could hit the target at 600 yards with open sights. Don't ask me how I know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    May I offer an opinion? I think the AR-15 and other similarly designed semi-automatic rifles are supposed to appeal to buyers who want the intimidating appearance of a real assault weapon. As Lew pointed out it's more of a marketing gimmick than anything else.
    Oh! I guess you mean something like a Remington 742...

    Or perhaps a Winchester 100

    Functionally: all three of these rifles are identical, and you can in no way distinguish between them, until you get into physical appearances of them...


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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    May I offer an opinion? I think the AR-15 and other similarly designed semi-automatic rifles are supposed to appeal to buyers who want the intimidating appearance of a real assault weapon. As Lew pointed out it's more of a marketing gimmick than anything else.
    Yea, it's like the young family guy who owns a mini van for obvious reasons, but yearns for the day when he can own a hell cat. And by the way, there are already those out there who think hell cats should be illegal to own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    Yea, it's like the young family guy who owns a mini van for obvious reasons, but yearns for the day when he can own a hell cat. And by the way, there are already those out there who think hell cats should be illegal to own.
    They probably all drive hybrids...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    Yea, it's like the young family guy who owns a mini van for obvious reasons, but yearns for the day when he can own a hell cat. And by the way, there are already those out there who think hell cats should be illegal to own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    i don't own a gun or rifle but i was wondering what is the purpose of an ar15, what is it made to do?
    I don't own an AR-15----- BUT a semi-auto, .223 caliber, wooden stock, leather sling,5 round hunting magazine,Leupold scope , ect. I use it for plunking, target shooting, ---- fun activities.

    If I wanted to I could make it make it look like an Armelite Research (Spelling?) model 15 or many of the millions of copies that is the most popular American sporting rifle.

    Not sure if I want to take the bait about what a rifle is made to do. But ------- most killings are done by hand guns. ( FBI crime statistics)

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    Most killings are done by deranged people. I never heard of one rifle or pistol that fired by it self. It's NOT THE GUN.

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    How many are killed by alcohol (directly or indirectly) or motor vehicles ?? Bet that number would scare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinegunner View Post
    Most killings are done by deranged people. I never heard of one rifle or pistol that fired by it self. It's NOT THE GUN.
    I'm not arguing with you at all, because you're obviously correct. For interesting reading, though, you might want to google the death of the wife of Randy Meisner, the original bass player for the Eagles. The gun that killed his wife supposedly went off **all by itself** while she was moving it -- inside a box. Believe that explanation or not, the police did accept it and Meisner is a free man today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinegunner View Post
    Most killings are done by deranged people. I never heard of one rifle or pistol that fired by it self. It's NOT THE GUN.
    Oh sure you have. They get dropped. Trigger catches on clothing. Dog knocks over shotgun. Hunter props rifle against fence. Hunter climbs fence. Fence breaks. Hunter falls off fence. Gun falls on ground and shoots hunter in butt. How about son who comes in late and is shot by non-deranged father? That happened in my neighborhood two years ago. Upscale neighborhood. Not much crime. Father was not "deranged". Wonder how he is feeling now?

    We have got to keep firearms of all kinds out of the hands of people who should not have them. Not only 'deranged' people but youngsters, old farts who cannot see what they are shooting at and, of course, criminals.

    IT ABSOLUTELY IS THE GUN!

    We need a total ban on semi-automatic weapons and the devices that make them so effective at killing people. We need mandatory safety training, licensing and usage/storage requirements just as we do for vehicles. And we need mandatory and effective background checks to prevent 'deranged' persons from having guns of any type.

    I personally would like to see a mandatory 20 years imprisonment added to any crime committed with a gun.

    None of the above would negatively impact your personal enjoyment of target shooting or hunting so the only thing I can say if you continue to disagree with this direction is that you value your guns more than your children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    i don't own a gun or rifle but i was wondering what is the purpose of an ar15, what is it made to do?

    Shoot bullets.

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    The truth about assault weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieSpyder View Post
    Shoot bullets.
    i would ask at who but florida lets us know the answer to that

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