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    Default I doubt if this will do any good

    spyderCodes is, I think, a useful app for Spyder owners.
    An up hill fight with BRP has been the standard operating procedure for me for several years.
    BRP has frozen the app out of the BRP Connect on the new models.
    Tired of it, I announced late last year that I was no longer going to pay to have the app available on The App Store and the Play Store.
    I received a lot of mail and comments that changed my mind.
    So you can still download the App, and I'm still paying for the privlege to offer it to you.
    I don't really mind because I can afford it but I don't plan to update the app anymore.
    What's the point?
    BRP would like it to go away so that the dealers will be the only ones who can tell you what an error code mesns.
    So, they have won and I suppose that really shouldn't be a surprise.
    There have been a combined downloads of almost 18K.
    I'm glad I could be of help to the communiy, but I am no longer going to try to update an app that is seen by the company that produes the Spyder as problematic.
    Sour grapes, cry babying? Probably.

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    I thought you could look up errors on the new dash?
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    Default thx

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    @SpyderAnn01 think it gives the code but I don't think it explains it. Never having seen the new setup, I could be wrong and would welcome any corrections
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    Thanks Roger for all you have done.

    Am thinking the mothership could have done some things differently.

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    I agree with Dwayne: 172%!!
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    Default I really appreciate your app

    I really appreciate your app. I've only used it once, and it provided me the exact information I needed. I shared the info with my dealer, who seemed very appreciative, and we got the service scheduled.

    Thank you and I invite you to not let BRP's position discourage you. Only You can discourage you!

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    Default Thank you Roger.....

    Sad but true just us old die hard twin lovers will be able to take full advantage of all your hard dedicated work to help the hepless along the highway. I have used the heck out of the app to help others and suggested it to many for its usefulness not only on codes and meanings. Glad it will still be out there cause there are a lot of older spyders being bought and sold and new ryders that can use the help.
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    Roger have you thought about charging a nominal fee to download the app? I’d pay for it and I’m sure others would too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    Roger have you thought about charging a nominal fee to download the app? I’d pay for it and I’m sure others would too.
    Sure I've thought about it but that ain't the point.
    For over six years I have begged, bribed (yes bribed) and almost stole the valuable BRP diagnostic info.
    They don't want spyderCodes around and they view me as a thorn in their side.

    If I charged a fee that would leave me open to a law suite that I believe BRP would gladly proceede with.

    As long as I can demonstrate no gain they have a hard time bringing about damages.
    This company produces some great things but they are also litiguous in the extreme.
    So far I have managed to skirt their dubious (in my opinion) copyright claims but that could change tomorrow.

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    I too have used your app and been very appreciative of the information there. I don't think people realize that it isn't just a code tracker but it is also a way to keep track of mileage,farkeles and cost and other expenses and service intervals. Very use little piece of software. Thank you for all the effort you have put into it over the years,especially for us old diehard twin riders.

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    Thumbs up

    Even if the new bikes shows the code , I don’t think it shows in manual what it is for, guessing. I have a sled that came up with a code , book says take to dealer. I contacted 3 dealerships and they said they would call me back. Never did, went to a dealer gave him the code and I get this blank look. Finally found a Facebook page for my brand and the people on there gave me the reason and how to fix it. ( hit reset button 😂, was reminder that previous low fuel warning ⚠️ needed to be reset)
    I have used Rogers ap , and it has been dead on , for any codes I have checked for friends that issues. His ap is priceless!

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    Thank you Kind Sir for your Wisdom and Knowledge that you have brought forth in Spydercodes. It will be missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel The Biker View Post
    The service manual explains all the codes also. Not as convenient as Spydercodes, but it will work also.
    True.
    I guess I've been wasting my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderCodes View Post
    spyderCodes is, I think, a useful app for Spyder owners.
    An up hill fight with BRP has been the standard operating procedure for me for several years.
    BRP has frozen the app out of the BRP Connect on the new models.
    Tired of it, I announced late last year that I was no longer going to pay to have the app available on The App Store and the Play Store.
    I received a lot of mail and comments that changed my mind.
    So you can still download the App, and I'm still paying for the privlege to offer it to you.
    I don't really mind because I can afford it but I don't plan to update the app anymore.
    What's the point?
    BRP would like it to go away so that the dealers will be the only ones who can tell you what an error code mesns.
    So, they have won and I suppose that really shouldn't be a surprise.
    There have been a combined downloads of almost 18K.
    I'm glad I could be of help to the communiy, but I am no longer going to try to update an app that is seen by the company that produes the Spyder as problematic.
    Sour grapes, cry babying? Probably.

    Cant say THANKS enough for what you have done and please help my confusion, so the app will still stay updated with the OS of device, just not updated with BRP? That does suck but I'm not trading out anytime soon & BRP action will have great influence on if I stay a customer (of any sort)or not. And as many people that see& get to interact with Daily, that ask about my spyder I will answer accordingly "great machine /poor company"

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    Thank you Roger.
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    The new dash shows codes but not what they mean .I had a code on my 2018 F3 and had to call the dealer to get the info .
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    Humor me please. Has anyone Googled the codes? What did you find. Not just for a Spyder, just Google the code!
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    Roger, I know that you have gone tooth and nail with BRP for so long. I can't tell you what a help your app has been to give me ammunition with both dealers & BRP. Just think of how much money they spent to figure out a way to cut you out. You are a thorn in their side, and I thank you for holding out as long as you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudley View Post
    Humor me please. Has anyone Googled the codes? What did you find. Not just for a Spyder, just Google the code!
    about 50 % of the codes used in the spyder are standard dtc's. the other half are brp specific, model specific codes. those are not so easily
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguyinCT View Post
    Roger, I know that you have gone tooth and nail with BRP for so long. I can't tell you what a help your app has been to give me ammunition with both dealers & BRP. Just think of how much money they spent to figure out a way to cut you out. You are a thorn in their side, and I thank you for holding out as long as you have.
    Being an old bastard has kept me going on this project longer than any sensible person would do.

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    Thank you Roger.

    Dumb question of the day:- I do not possess a "smart phone". Is there any way I can get your spyder codes app onto my PC (Windows run not an Apple) & use it there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Thanks Roger for all you have done.

    Am thinking the mothership could have done some things differently.

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    Thank you for providing this service to the Spyder community. My guess is that BRP probably thinks there is some intellectual property rights to their codes to push back like they do.
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    Roger, Thank you for the awesome app, Besides the code lookup, I don't know if everyone knows about all the other features you built in, from setting what year and model Spyder you have so you can then refer to the service schedule and log that into the app, the fuel and mileage, the handy little in app tools (farkles), Tech specs for different year/models (cause someone always has to ask me what oil or something does it use....), even links to a video...
    Thank you so much for what you have done, especially with the PTB resistance you've dealt with. So though you don't sell it, or charge for the app, does accepting personal gifts incur a liability on your part? Folks routinely start crowd sourcing future endeavors, maybe there is something else you've pondered trying? Or would you accept a pre-paid fuel card or the like?
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