M/C License - Yes/No?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Here are relevant quotes from Oregon House Bill 3125, signed by the Governor on June 14, 2017. https://gov.oregonlive.com/bill/2017/HB3125/ & https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/201...ocument/HB3125

Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
SECTION 1. Section 2 of this 2017 Act is added to and made a part of the Oregon Vehicle
Code.
SECTION 2. “Autocycle” means a motorcycle that:
(1) Is manufactured to travel on three wheels;
(2) Has a steering wheel for steering control;
(3) Has nonstraddle seating; and
(4) Is equipped with a manufacturer-installed three-point safety belt or safety harness.

(13) A person who does not hold a motorcycle endorsement may operate a motorcycle if the
person is:
(a) Within an enclosed cab; [or]
(b) Operating a vehicle designed to travel with three wheels in contact with the ground at
speeds of less than 15 miles per hour[.]; or
(c) Operating an autocycle.

From my search of Oregon legislative actions for 2017 no change was made to the requirements for wearing a helmet. I find nothing that indicates the definition of autocycle means the requirement for helmets for motorcycles does not apply. Oregon statute, ORS 814.290 lists the exemptions for wearing a motorcycle helmet. It has the same (a) and (b) exemptions as the quote above for licenses. Autocycle has not been added to the list. What muddies things is that the Oregon statute states that the Federal Government classifies all three wheel vehicles as motorcycles, hence the motor vehicle safety requirements for motorcycles apply to autocycles. It looks to me like Oregon law still is not absolutely clear what motorcycle laws do apply to autocycles. The quotes above define an autocycle as a type of motorcycle. So for the time being, if you are driving a Slingshot it looks to me like you better play it safe and wear a helmet.

It sure looks to me like some of the news stories mentioned above by earlier posters were not based on a close reading of the legislation and current law.

[seaweed]

Georgia did the same thing , to cover the Slingshots and Elios (should they ever happen), terming them Auto-cycles: w/ steering wheels, pedals and side by side seating.

Stallions (not not horses - but a trike motorcycle) also have steering wheels, pedals and shifting like a car. However there are not many on the road and they may not have seatbelts.

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

whether it's required or not it is good to have both

[SPYDERGUY1]

Yes I have both.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

What if you travel through a state that does require

Are you exempt

" NO " ( as applied to helmet exemption ). and I'm not guessing on this ..... things like vehicle inspections aren't enforced out-of-state, nor trailer registrations, but Helmet regs are ....................Happy New year .... Mike

[canamjhb]

Until now, I have not given a thought about licensing. I have a MC endorsement but nothing about 3 wheeler. Are there areas that require something special for a 3 wheeler? I always thought I could ride anything with the license I have.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Until now, I have not given a thought about licensing. I have a MC endorsement but nothing about 3 wheeler. Are there areas that require something special for a 3 wheeler? I always thought I could ride anything with the license I have.

I believe in all states where a motorcycle endorsement is required for a two wheeler you are also covered for a three wheeler. The intent of the exemptions from m/c endorsements is to make it easier for people to legally drive 3 wheelers that are deemed to be inherently safer and more stable than two wheelers or m/c style trikes, specifically the Slingshot, without having to demonstrate expertise on a two wheeler.

[Fire34]

Until now, I have not given a thought about licensing. I have a MC endorsement but nothing about 3 wheeler. Are there areas that require something special for a 3 wheeler? I always thought I could ride anything with the license I have.

When I went to get my license it has a 3 wheel endorsement meaning i can only ride 3 wheelers, I would need to go back and test for motorcycles. I dont know if Illinois works the other way though. I believe it does

Dave.

[Pirate looks at --]

In California you don't need a MC endorsement to ryde a spyder, you do, however have to wear a helmet! I would doubt that any state that has a helmet law would go back on that. I know that many SS drivers say they don't need a helmet in California.

[CMA/IBA_rider]

Why do you wear a helmet when you skydive? Like that's really going to help.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I have an "M" endorsement on my driving license.

"M" = Motorcycle endorsement.

Deanna

annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Happy New Year , ... Mike

[Big F]

Hi folks,

I was told this morning that, effective the first of the year, Oregon will no longer require a M/C endorsement to ride a 3-wheeler.

I will try to check with my son on this & see what he says.

If they go the no license route, I wonder if they will go the no helmet route also.

Stay tuned, film at 11,

Jerry Baumchen

I think the movement for no MC endorsement and no helmets was started by Elio. I do know they went to each State to get their present laws changed for their 3-wheel autocycle due for production some time in the future.
BIG F

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I think the movement for no MC endorsement and no helmets was started by Elio. I do know they went to each State to get their present laws changed for their 3-wheel autocycle due for production some time in the future.
BIG F

Way way back Johnny Mathis recorded the theme song for the ( yet to be produced ) " Elio " .....it was called " The 12th of Never " .....................I looooooooooooooove that song , one of His best imho ..... and they just released a CD collection of His recordings ..............Guess how many disc's it took ??????? ...................... 68 ....annnnnnnnnnnnd Happy New Year .... Mike

[Motorcycledave]

YES

What if you travel through a state that does require

Are you exempt

[ofdave]

I believe in all states where a motorcycle endorsement is required for a two wheeler you are also covered for a three wheeler. The intent of the exemptions from m/c endorsements is to make it easier for people to legally drive 3 wheelers that are deemed to be inherently safer and more stable than two wheelers or m/c style trikes, specifically the Slingshot, without having to demonstrate expertise on a two wheeler.

In Fl. a motorcycle endorsement allows you to ride a trike (any 3 wheel).
If you take a 3 wheel course and not a 2 wheel course, your endorsement does not allow you to ride a motorcycle.
Makes no sense to me.
All who ride 2 wheels are not capable of riding 3 wheels. this is especially true with sidecar rigs.

[JerryB]

Hi rider,

Re: Why do you wear a helmet when you skydive?

Because there are many instances when you need one; and I am not talking about simply going in.

You can bang your head while exiting and when a formation goes kaputs.

BTDT,

Jerry Baumchen

[White Lightening]

4]I believe in all states where a motorcycle endorsement is required for a two wheeler you are also covered for a three wheeler.[/B] The intent of the exemptions from m/c endorsements is to make it easier for people to legally drive 3 wheelers that are deemed to be inherently safer and more stable than two wheelers or m/c style trikes, specifically the Slingshot, without having to demonstrate expertise on a two wheeler.

Not true. In Washington there are separate 2 and 3 wheel endorsements. The 2 wheel does not cover both.

[finsfanscott]

In Fl. a motorcycle endorsement allows you to ride a trike (any 3 wheel).
If you take a 3 wheel course and not a 2 wheel course, your endorsement does not allow you to ride a motorcycle.
Makes no sense to me.
All who ride 2 wheels are not capable of riding 3 wheels. this is especially true with sidecar rigs.

Can confirm. I have a three wheel endorsement in Florida, via the course offered (and paid for) by BRP. While the actual license says "Motorcycle Also" there is an additional "Restriction" of S - indicating the endorsement is only valid for 3 wheelers.

[Docster]

Under national reciprocity laws you should be legal because you are not a resident of the state that requires MC endorsement but are resident of one that does not.

To bad my concealed carry gun permit doesn't work that way.....