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    Default Fast start without burnout on SE5?

    I have 2009 GS se5 that I need some rpm/race tips. I usually just go full throttle when I start which causes me to do a burnout. What is a good rpm to start to prevent burnout but have a fast start?

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    fewer than what you're using now...

    What's the "big hurry" about anyway?
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    Default I've go a few timeslips

    From test and tune nights. It's really more of a "Feel" thing than an RPM thing.... Power braking a Spyder is a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaSpyderRyder View Post
    From test and tune nights. It's really more of a "Feel" thing than an RPM thing.... Power braking a Spyder is a bad idea.
    Now that's something I have never done. You mean on a track correct? Where do you go?

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    Default Mooresville Dragway

    Test and tune at Moorseville Dragway is Thursday nights.
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    Default FAST START

    Quote Originally Posted by NVERLAST1 View Post
    I have 2009 GS se5 that I need some rpm/race tips. I usually just go full throttle when I start which causes me to do a burnout. What is a good rpm to start to prevent burnout but have a fast start?
    In 2014 at Spyderfest I took a place trophy ( stock RSS V-twin ) .... Unless you are very lightweight, the burnout will be very short. IMHO drag racing is WON at the Tree ... Reaction time is UBER critical ... Lesser HP machines often win against higher HP machines because the operator has better Reaction reflexes ... Practice will greatly improve your times .... This can be accomplished .... Without going to a track ... Have a buddy hold a flashlight and practice ... you can do this anywhere ... because you aren't going more than 50 ft.... ( at least you shouldn't ) .... Also you MUST nail it as close to the time the Green lite goes on ... this means you need to get the tree timing almost perfect .. you go a milli-second before the green actually lights .......... good luck , have fun ..... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    In 2014 at Spyderfest I took a place trophy ( stock RSS V-twin ) .... Unless you are very lightweight, the burnout will be very short. IMHO drag racing is WON at the Tree ... Reaction time is UBER critical ... Lesser HP machines often win against higher HP machines because the operator has better Reaction reflexes ... Practice will greatly improve your times .... This can be accomplished .... Without going to a track ... Have a buddy hold a flashlight and practice ... you can do this anywhere ... because you aren't going more than 50 ft.... ( at least you shouldn't ) .... Also you MUST nail it as close to the time the Green lite goes on ... this means you need to get the tree timing almost perfect .. you go a milli-second before the green actually lights .......... good luck , have fun ..... Mike
    I'm def not lightweight closer to 300 pounds smh. Do you still raise rpms before you start?

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    Default DRAG RACING

    Quote Originally Posted by NVERLAST1 View Post
    I'm def not lightweight closer to 300 pounds smh. Do you still raise rpms before you start?
    ... I'm a medium weight ...... and NO on raising RPM's prior to launch ..... You @ 300lbs. may want to though ( no offense intended ) ..... Every Spyder is a little bit different and so are the operators ........ Only practice will tell you what works best for you ..... Enjoy .... Mike

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    The fastest bike rarely wins a race: the fastest rider does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaSpyderRyder View Post
    Test and tune at Moorseville Dragway is Thursday nights.
    That's right up the street. Is that every Thursday? what is the cost? I didn't know they reopened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    The fastest bike rarely wins a race: the fastest rider does!

    HP to weight ratio. Most track winners are under 140 lbs, lots of gals are joining the winners because they have a consistent reaction time & weigh 120# + racing suit gear. Leaving the line on yellow may get you to the end 1st but they usually don't count it as a win, I would know about that. In the end you are racing yourself--trying to improve your ET--getting a better feel on how to improve your skillset on your vehicle. The winners are usually very poor financially off--a few exceptions--but most spend every dime on their racing vehicle.
    Now that we haven't answered your question--try this--pick an rpm--if you bog down increase the rpm--if wheel spin becomes a problem--reduce your launch rpm--trial & error works wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaSpyderRyder View Post
    From test and tune nights. It's really more of a "Feel" thing than an RPM thing.... Power braking a Spyder is a bad idea.
    Mustang does it with Line Lock(locks up from wheels & release brakes on the rear) I know this is a Spyder forum but today's USA's muscle are in the 600-700 HP range--unbelievable. One can get a 727 hp 640# torque Mustang with Roush Supercharger for under $50K . That's getting not to far off from a loaded Spyder in the $30's K range. Doesn't seem right--does it. The Stage 1 640 HP comes with a 3 yr 36000 mi warranty. Perfect tow vehicle
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    Default FAT FOLKS - ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    HP to weight ratio. Most track winners are under 140 lbs, lots of gals are joining the winners because they have a consistent reaction time & weigh 120# + racing suit gear. Leaving the line on yellow may get you to the end 1st but they usually don't count it as a win, I would know about that. In the end you are racing yourself--trying to improve your ET--getting a better feel on how to improve your skillset on your vehicle. The winners are usually very poor financially off--a few exceptions--but most spend every dime on their racing vehicle.
    Now that we haven't answered your question--try this--pick an rpm--if you bog down increase the rpm--if wheel spin becomes a problem--reduce your launch rpm--trial & error works wonders.
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    Wellllllllllllllllllllll , my best friends brother weighed 240 +/- and He won 95% of His races. His reaction time at the Tree was legendary .... ( Bob Moshinski ) ........ Mike

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    Yup! Skill (and great reflexes!) will triumph!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Wellllllllllllllllllllll , my best friends brother weighed 240 +/- and He won 95% of His races. His reaction time at the Tree was legendary .... ( Bob Moshinski ) ........ Mike

    Mike: I'm guessing the 5% of the races he lost was by someone with his same launch skill but weighed considerably less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    Mike: I'm guessing the 5% of the races he lost was by someone with his same launch skill but weighed considerably less.
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