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    Default On my Spyder; Limp Home Mode, DPS failure, VSS, and CEL on the way home tonight..

    Well.. it happened! After 10,500 miles with no issues...

    On the way home tonight heading north on Hwy 196, the engine began sputtering, and all of these warnings came on. I was able to get it pulled over into a parking lot, and I could feel that the DPS wasn't working.
    I shut it off, and let it sit a couple of minutes. I restarted it. And, everything was fine once again. DPS was working, as well. For the remaining 15 miles back to the house, everything was fine - like it never even occured.

    This past weekend, I had the new back tire installed, and new brakes all around. Everything was just peachy! And, now .... this!

    I emailed my dealer. I'm sure they will just asked me to bring it in..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg H. View Post
    Well.. it happened! After 10,500 miles with no issues...

    On the way home tonight heading north on Hwy 196, the engine began sputtering, and all of these warnings came on. I was able to get it pulled over into a parking lot, and I could feel that the DPS wasn't working.
    I shut it off, and let it sit a couple of minutes. I restarted it. And, everything was fine once again. DPS was working, as well. For the remaining 15 miles back to the house, everything was fine - like it never even occured.

    This past weekend, I had the new back tire installed, and new brakes all around. Everything was just peachy! And, now .... this!

    I emailed my dealer. I'm sure they will just asked me to bring it in..
    Rut roh...something was 'dinged' with the changes you made...I'm sure the dealer will figure it out...what about the sensors on the rear wheel that were obviously tinkered with when you replaced the tire? Also, why change the tire at 10k?
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    Loose relays. Take 'em out, re-seat them.
    ata = allergic to asphalt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
    Loose relays. Take 'em out, re-seat them.
    Put a piece of foam inside top box

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Rut roh...something was 'dinged' with the changes you made...I'm sure the dealer will figure it out...what about the sensors on the rear wheel that were obviously tinkered with when you replaced the tire? Also, why change the tire at 10k?
    Only change, I made was the Hindle, several hundred miles back. The tire was due for replacement; way into all wear indicators. They replaced the brake pads, and changed the oil. All for $670.19 .

    I rode 186 miles yesterday. Beautiful! Oh well... We will see what they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
    Loose relays. Take 'em out, re-seat them.
    A nice fix like that would be great! Thanks for the tip!

    Where might I find the relays?
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    Front fuse box.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg H. View Post
    A nice fix like that would be great! Thanks for the tip!

    Where might I find the relays?
    ata = allergic to asphalt

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataDude View Post
    Front fuse box.
    Well; I have seen that many times! I'll address that.

    Many thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokster View Post
    Put a piece of foam inside top box
    And, a piece of foam! Got it!

    Thanks!!
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    I just went out and checked the relays. The main relay was, in fact, loose. I re-seated it, and put some mini bubble wrap in the top, and put it back on.
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    Dang....Hopefully it was just the relay like i have heard many times from around here.
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    I went out after work yesterday afternoon, and rode about 50miles. No problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg H. View Post
    I just went out and checked the relays. The main relay was, in fact, loose. I re-seated it, and put some mini bubble wrap in the top, and put it back on.
    Maybe BRP will introduce that custom made piece of foam for the fuse box and call it the "fuse pillow" and charge $29.95 for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2Wild View Post
    Maybe BRP will introduce that custom made piece of foam for the fuse box and call it the "fuse pillow" and charge $29.95 for it.
    No, ultra-foam cruising pillow...
    Of course...they'll design it, test it, and never get it to market, like all their other accessories...
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    It is funny how everybody suggests putting foam under the top of the fuse box lid to put some pressure on the relays. My 2008 SE5 manufactured in July 2008 (as per the VIN sticker on the swing arm) came with foam already installed in the fuse box lid. Could it be that BRP was aware of that suggestion and incorporated it into the build of the bikes they built aft say July of 2008 ?

    Just wondering but what was the date of manufacture for all those that had the loose relays and added foam to the fuse box lid ?
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    I picked my Spyder up 4-15-08, it has foam in the cover for the fuse block, but the foam must be there for sound deadening, it doesn't reach the relays or fuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokster View Post
    Put a piece of foam inside top box
    I check the relays every 300 miles when I check the oil level and mine have been tight. There already is a piece of foam in the top of the fuse box lid which is apparently just for the purpose of keeping the relays in place. Are you putting a thicker piece in and still able to get the lid to latch?

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    Mine has the foam inside the lid, as well. I took delivery of my Spyder 9/27/08. You can see the impressions in the foam of the relays. And, as I said; when I removed the fuse box lid, the main relay was unseated a little. The extra foam that I added, now keeps them seated firmly.
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    Can someone post a pic of their fuse box...I've never looked for it before to take a peek and see what surprises I'll find in mine! thanks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Can someone post a pic of their fuse box...I've never looked for it before to take a peek and see what surprises I'll find in mine! thanks...
    Don't have a pic but its on the oposite side of the radiator fill bottle.
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    I would also get the numbers off of all the relays and buy one more of each.
    I believe with the numbers you could try auto nation and or NAPA to carry around some spares just in case.

    Northramp

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2Wild View Post
    Maybe BRP will introduce that custom made piece of foam for the fuse box and call it the "fuse pillow" and charge $29.95 for it.
    I bet they will! That was funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Can someone post a pic of their fuse box...I've never looked for it before to take a peek and see what surprises I'll find in mine! thanks...
    Ask and you shall receive.

    Front of the Spyder with the trunk open.



    Fuse box location with trim panel in place.



    Fuse box location with trim panel removed.



    Fuse box with cover removed. Three relays on the right (black rectangular shaped objects) and one relay on the left (large gray square object).



    Close up of inside of fuse box cover with the relay indentations in the factory installed foam and spare fuses. I guess they started putting foam inside the cover fairly early on as I have a Premier Edition (#3783) delivered March of 2008.



    There is a second fuse location under the seat on the right side of the bike.



    Closer photo of the underseat fuse box. The fuses under here are considered "main" fuses I believe and are a different style than the fuses in the front fuse box. They are called JCASE (style) fuses.


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