SpyderCodes no longer available for new downloads

[spyderCodes]

SpyderCodes is the oldest and most downloaded Spyder specific app.
BRP apparently decided that SpyderCodes won't be available in their shiny new screen in their 2018 models.
SpyderCodes has been removed from availability in iOS and Android format.
Sorry, but I have been scrambling over the past several years getting codes and info in a back door sort of way from BRP and no longer can continue this.
The app must be able to be made current if it is to be useful. An out of date app is no good to anyone and BRP's unwillingness to support this free app has finally caused it's demise.
This decision only affects new downloads and not the current installed base.

[d.o.spyder-rts]

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for all you've done over the years to develop and keep this app going. Dale

[Luvs2Ride]

Thanks so much for this application... so sorry to hear that BRP is not supportive.

[RinconRyder]

As a new Spyder owner this is not the kind of support that will make me a long term customer. In fact, based upon the (lack of) product reliability I have seen to date on this forum and others I will not consider buying another BRP product.

[clinard]

Thanks for taking care of us over the years. Came in handy more than once.

[Highwayman2013]

We appreciate all you do.

[Roadster Renovations]

Thanks for all you have done!!

[JKMSPYDER]

Roger thank you for this great app. Those of us that have it have appreciated your hard work.

[Roadster Renovations]

Very pale comparison to your Spyder Codes, but we do have all of the codes for referencing in 1 Spyder World on Facebook. And they can be referenced with a smart phone.
I am hoping that BRP will come to their senses and support your awesome app.

Here is the link if any are interested:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1spyderworld/

[oldguyinTX]

Roger,thanks so much for all of the work you put into Spydercodes, while working on your Volkswagens. Sadly, it makes perfect sense to me that BRP would find a way to (again) cut you out. It must be frustrating for BRP to have owners showing up at dealers and saying "I just got code C0040 or C0063", and that we know what those codes mean. Typical BRP BS. An informed customer base confronting a big Corporation is scary for them. I tend to be one of the loud ones when it comes to holding BRP's feet to the fire.

[ARtraveler]

Another sad situation. Sorry to hear that Roger.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Kudos to Roger for all he has done.

But lets be careful about how much we bash BRP. There just might be some good engineering reason to no longer show the codes. I could be wrong but the Spyder is the only vehicle I know of that displays error codes in plain language on a dash screen. Some cars, if not most, will let you see the codes but you have to go through three or four steps to get the codes to show, and then you have to count flashes of the idiot light or something of the sort. Maybe that will be what we see on the new cluster. On the other hand code readers that plug into the OBC connector on cars are readily available.

Maybe someone will come up with a code reader that plugs into the diagnostic connector. All the emissions related codes on the Spyder are the same as in cars so it shouldn't be an insurmountable task to accomplish.

And keep in mind, BRP is not alone in not disclosing codes other than legally required emissions related codes. It's my understanding many cars have proprietary codes that can be read only by authorized diagnostic equipment.

[one2doo]

Thanks for all you have done

[JayBros]

I add my thanks, Roger. Have used on two occasions for my Spyder and it really helped me explain the situation to the dealers. Oh, on the reliability front, neither code display was the result of something going wrong inside the Spyder; both were human error induced, one mine and the other a gasoline supplier.

[Chupaca]

Roger...even an out of date app such as yours will be a great help to many. Sad to hear and see as you have helped so many with your hard work and dedication to the spyder world. As long as my RS (BRP dropped it too) and your app works for me....I am good to go.'s for all you have done.....

[Firefly]

Thanks for the hard work... but I'm confused.....

So the old version of Spydercodes works fine, but a new one will not?

Or are you saying you can't get a hold of the newest codes and implement them?

So shouldn't a person with an older model (2016 and prior?) be able to use the old program?

You state "BRP apparently decided that SpyderCodes won't be available in their shiny new screen in their 2018 models."

What does this mean? That BRP isn't displaying the codes? Or are you saying they contacted Apple and won't allow your software to be available?

Will the current app run under iOS 11 ?

Can you please clarify all this?

Thanks again! Your app has been very handy.

[RinconRyder]

Thanks for the hard work... but I'm confused.....

Or are you saying you can't get a hold of the newest codes and implement them?

This one, I think.

[Peteoz]

This one, I think.

I think the same, Rincon. He says that SpyderCodes won't be available in BRP's shiny new 2018 screens, and my interpretation is that because he can no longer keep the codes up to date for the new models, he doesn't want to leave the product out there for purchase. But I could be totally wrong..... SURELY NOT . We'll just have to wait for SpyderCodes (the Forum member, not the application) to respond.

Pete

[Firefly]

I think the same, Rincon. He says that SpyderCodes won't be available in BRP's shiny new 2018 screens, and my interpretation is that because he can no longer keep the codes up to date for the new models, he doesn't want to leave the product out there for purchase. But I could be totally wrong..... SURELY NOT . We'll just have to wait for SpyderCodes (the Forum member, not the application) to respond.

Pete

"SpyderCodes won't be available in BRP's shiny new 2018 screens".

This is the part that confuses me.

I highly doubt BRP is removing the capability to display fault codes.. a feature that has been on all their products for a very long time.

[KX5062]

"SpyderCodes won't be available in BRP's shiny new 2018 screens".

This is the part that confuses me.

I highly doubt BRP is removing the capability to display fault codes.. a feature that has been on all their products for a very long time.

Why would you doubt that? Having to use a plug in code fault code reader is the industry standard now-a-days. Having the ability to display fault codes is "old school" and rarely done anymore.

For example. The EU just cracked the whip on BMW because they used a proprietary code reader and access port. The new BMW motorcycles now use a standard EBDII port, but still use a proprietary software. I know this anecdote is not a direct correlation, but is illustrative of how far manufacturers will go to keep you coming back to the dealer for what could be a minor issue you could easily solve for yourself if you had some basic knowledge.

And, before I conclude my post, a big thank you to SpyderCodes for the time and energy! It is much appreciated!

[ofdave]

to add to the confusion
I have a '17.
Is the app available to me?

[finless]

Just a word of warning for iPhone users.
If you do a backup and then restore you will not get back the Spyder Codes APP.
Apple removed this ability for iTunes to restore APPs you backed up that are no longer on the APP Store.

So be aware of that!

I have backed up the APP so it can be side loaded later. You have to be jail broken to do that.

Bob

[finless]

FYI, I am going to pull the list of codes from the APP and convert it to a document for prosperity.

Bob

[jcthorne]

I too am confused as to what Roger is trying to tell us is the problem.

He says SpyderCodes will not be included in the new 2018 dashboard.


Sorry but SpyderCodes has never been included on ANY BRP product nor any user generated application. Its a walled garden and only BRP code is allowed in. No different from any other OEM vehicle manufacture. Car, truck or bike.

He did not say that diagnostic codes will not be available to owners and I find it ridiculous that BRP would take that away from all owners without providing some other method for retrieval.

True they are not available for display on most cars but ALL cars have an industry standard OBDII port you can attach a code reader to and obtain them.

I really hope Roger comes back and explains his comment a little better. As currently is sounds like he asked BRP for access to the display interface and they told him no, so he took down all the smartphone apps. I really hope this is not the case.

[Firefly]

I too am confused as to what Roger is trying to tell us is the problem.

He says SpyderCodes will not be included in the new 2018 dashboard.


Sorry but SpyderCodes has never been included on ANY BRP product nor any user generated application. Its a walled garden and only BRP code is allowed in. No different from any other OEM vehicle manufacture. Car, truck or bike.

He did not say that diagnostic codes will not be available to owners and I find it ridiculous that BRP would take that away from all owners without providing some other method for retrieval.

True they are not available for display on most cars but ALL cars have an industry standard OBDII port you can attach a code reader to and obtain them.

I really hope Roger comes back and explains his comment a little better. As currently is sounds like he asked BRP for access to the display interface and they told him no, so he took down all the smartphone apps. I really hope this is not the case.

Yeah.. there's no way BRP was going to allow any such thing on the new screens.
I don't see any connection between that and still having the app out there on iTunes.

And even if BRP did get rid of pulling codes on the new models, the app would still be handy for all previous spyders to look codes up, along with the other features he nicely implemented. We know there are over 100,000 Spyders out there that can pull codes up. If the app is going away for good then I guess we'll have to come up with a database.. maybe an excel spreadsheet we can post a link to out here.

I also wouldn't think BRP would have the power to have the app pulled from the app store.

I also notice the app I'm using is now called 'My Spyder 2' instead of 'Spydercodes'. Anyone know what's up with that?