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Filling gas to the rim or?
Hi folks!
When filling up your gas, do you stop at the pump shut-off or do you fill it to the rim? (Well, not quite the rim because closing the gas cap will cause overfill, but you know what I mean).
When filling up the gas comes up to the rim and then bubbles/settles down into the tank. It does this several times before I can't fit anymore into it. Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Thanks!
SS
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Originally Posted by SpyderSkeets
Hi folks!
When filling up your gas, do you stop at the pump shut-off or do you fill it to the rim? (Well, not quite the rim because closing the gas cap will cause overfill, but you know what I mean).
When filling up the gas comes up to the rim and then bubbles/settles down into the tank. It does this several times before I can't fit anymore into it. Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Thanks!
SS
That's exactly what I do most times. Haven't had any troubles. 2600 miles.
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Here's what I do.....
Wise member here (Nancys Toy) figured this to be just the right point for filling your tank. When the cut off kicks in move the nozzel up just inside the rim of the filling tube and continue slowly till it bubbles around the breather slots..Then your as full as you should be. More and you will fill the canister etc...
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x2 for me. what he said.
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Originally Posted by SpyderSkeets
Hi folks!
When filling up your gas, do you stop at the pump shut-off or do you fill it to the rim? (Well, not quite the rim because closing the gas cap will cause overfill, but you know what I mean).
When filling up the gas comes up to the rim and then bubbles/settles down into the tank. It does this several times before I can't fit anymore into it. Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Thanks!
SS
I do what you do and have not experienced any known problems doing so.
2014 Copper RTS
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
Wise member here (Nancys Toy) figured this to be just the right point for filling your tank. When the cut off kicks in move the nozzel up just inside the rim of the filling tube and continue slowly till it bubbles around the breather slots..Then your as full as you should be. More and you will fill the canister etc...
Same here
2010 RTSM5
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A slight variation, but similar. I do not use automatic shut off. Fill to ring, stop, let the gas settle and fill up to ring second time. Done. Requires a steady hand and good control on the dispensing handle.
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For those of us that live in a nanny state that use the elephant vapor collection nozzle, this easily defeats that feature and allow a real top off to fill. It came with my bike but would not be hard to make
Last edited by El Dorado; 10-02-2017 at 02:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by SpyderSkeets
Hi folks!
When filling up your gas, do you stop at the pump shut-off or do you fill it to the rim? (Well, not quite the rim because closing the gas cap will cause overfill, but you know what I mean).
When filling up the gas comes up to the rim and then bubbles/settles down into the tank. It does this several times before I can't fit anymore into it. Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Thanks!
SS
Why not just do what you do with your car or truck?
2021 RT Limited
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
Wise member here (Nancys Toy) figured this to be just the right point for filling your tank. When the cut off kicks in move the nozzel up just inside the rim of the filling tube and continue slowly till it bubbles around the breather slots..Then your as full as you should be. More and you will fill the canister etc...
Just looking at the service manual for the Critter & it looks like the EVAP canister is located above the tank. And the vent valve in the tank is also at the highest point so there is a very small chance of flooding the EVAP canister. I'm not saying that it can't happen thou.
Wasn't this a problem with the pre-2014 models?? Just asking, not sure. Thanks.
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If I am going a distance after fillup, I go to the brim, you never know where the next stop will be. If I am headed to the barn, I never go to the brim. When the bike is stored, temps vary, especially when brought in hot. you should always leave room for temperature expansion.
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Originally Posted by PapaHotel
When the bike is stored, temps vary, especially when brought in hot. you should always leave room for temperature expansion.
I always fill up several miles from home to insure the trike isn't full when parked. Thanks.
AKA Jud Smales, Four Year Spyder Ryder!
"Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati"
The Critter 2016 RT-S
Cat Bypass from Lamonster
BajaRon Sway Bar
Hella dual horns with relay
BRP Hitch with trailer module
Foam Grips
Adjustable Air Deflectors
Driver & Passenger Gel Pads in Seat
Shorty antenna
Ultraguard half cover
Gremlin bell from my son
Break Stripe Kit from Wrap My Spyder
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Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2
Why not just do what you do with your car or truck?
On my truck, I almost always fill it to the rim, and when I do, its filled and there isn't much "settling" of the gas. When I do it with the Spyder, there seems to be an usual amount of "settling" and it seems that it might not be the right thing to do. I know you're usually not supposed to top off and I just want to be sure it's not causing any kind of issue with any of the sensors
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Originally Posted by SpyderSkeets
Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Yes and yes......IF the nozzle lever feels really stiff, like many of them do.
I've found that many times it makes a nasty mess by going past the first shutoff.
AND.... I have found that the additional you can get in by pulling the nozzle out a bit and going for the second click really isn't much.
But I still do 2 clicks. Maybe someday I'll convince myself to stop doing that.
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
and continue slowly till it bubbles around the breather slots..
While I agree that could be really good advice............most of the gas pumps that I have used don't have a "slowly" setting.
The flow is either OFF or ON FULL BLAST.
That makes it impossible to finesse the level.
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WELLLLLLL NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT
Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2
Why not just do what you do with your car or truck?
You can't do it this way because The Spyder has no NECK ....you can see the top of the tank ...... on your car / trk there is generally more than 8 inches of pipe before it gets to the Tank .... on the Spyder you can actually see the gas tank ..... Mike
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Originally Posted by SpyderSkeets
Hi folks!
When filling up your gas, do you stop at the pump shut-off or do you fill it to the rim? (Well, not quite the rim because closing the gas cap will cause overfill, but you know what I mean).
When filling up the gas comes up to the rim and then bubbles/settles down into the tank. It does this several times before I can't fit anymore into it. Is this a bad idea? Should I just stop when it clicks off the first time?
Thanks!
SS
I also do the same thing, I fill up gas tank, until I can't fit any more gas in. I have a 2014 RTS-SE6 with 21,800 miles. No problems.
Deanna
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Originally Posted by Deanna777
No problems.
Yet.
Doesn't it concern you at all that:
BRP says not to do that.
Other owners have reported that they DO have problems caused by over-filling ??
I guess not. I hope your luck holds up.
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WELLLLLLL NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT
Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Yet.
Doesn't it concern you at all that:
BRP says not to do that.
Other owners have reported that they DO have problems caused by over-filling ??
I guess not. I hope your luck holds up.
You are partly correct , some owners - the ones that have / had the V-twin engine and the way BRP routed the gas overflow and the position / location of the EVAP / Charcoal canister .... This ALL changed with the 1330 engine & frame .... Now only fumes can reach the canister ....not gas ...... Mike
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I have Never filled it till it clicks off? I don't take long trips . Its Not worth replacing a canister or gas fumes? Do whats best for you!!!
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
AND.... I have found that the additional you can get in by pulling the nozzle out a bit and going for the second click really isn't much.
But I still do 2 clicks. Maybe someday I'll convince myself to stop doing that.
Right! I keep thinking I need to watch the pump to see just how much more I actually squeeze in by finessing the nozzle handle for an additional minute. What, maybe 2 quarts! Actually I push to get to an even 25 cents. The last dollar's worth is slow getting in!
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
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Originally Posted by El Dorado
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For those of us that live in a nanny state that use the elephant vapor collection nozzle, this easily defeats that feature and allow a real top off to fill. It came with my bike but would not be hard to make
Are those available through a non BRP? Traveling into Calif later and that would be a massive help on the trip. Or take measurements of all and post so one can be made. Wonder if Lamonster is interested in selling them. You might send him an email and see.
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