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    I've noticed when I fill up my RT at the gas station, I stop when the gas nozzle clicks and stop pumping. When I leave and look at the gas gauge it shows less than full (needle is under the "F"). Has anyone noticed that? Do you squeeze a little more in the tank after the gas nozzle clicks?

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    The trick is to only insert the nozzle about 3/4". When it squirts through the vent give it one more shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    The trick is to only insert the nozzle about 3/4". When it squirts through the vent give it one more shot.
    Yup, right on! Had to do it today with 93 Harvey gas @ $3.20/gal, about $.40 more than normal. Station was flat out of low and mid grade so everyone was buying 93; wouldn't have used low/mid anyway.
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    Fill to the plate inside the fill tube


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    Kind of a pain but I'm used to it.

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    After the first stop on fueling I pull the gas hose about half way out and then pump in more until it clicks off again. Then I stop and put the gas cap back on the spyder.

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    I just stop when the pump clicks off. The fuel looks quite close to the bottom of the filler neck at that point, and also the owner's manual says don't stuff it.

    Even though the fuel level looks like it's right at the filler neck, the highest my fuel gauge will read is just below full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    The trick is to only insert the nozzle about 3/4". When it squirts through the vent give it one more shot.

    I agree with Ann,I do the same thing,get more miles before the next fill that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    The trick is to only insert the nozzle about 3/4". When it squirts through the vent give it one more shot.
    So far I have found that procedure to be messy......since it is almost impossible to finesse that last shot with most pump nozzles......so I stop when it first shuts off, after removing the nozzle and LOOKING to see that the level is close to the bottom of the "cup".

    But yes, not inserting the nozzle end too far seems to be the key.

    P.S. Just because the gauge does not say FULL does not mean that it isn't.
    The gauges are notoriously inaccurate, especially on the older models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post

    P.S. Just because the gauge does not say FULL does not mean that it isn't.
    The gauges are notoriously inaccurate, especially on the older models.
    Excellent point!

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    You can seel the level in the tank on most models. The best is to fill till it bubbles back throught the breather slots. Here we have to hold back the elephant trunk added to the filling nozzel because of EPA but works. On models without the analog this will get that small wedge at the top of the bar digital guage....They used to make a gizmo to hold back that nozzel cover....
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    Those elephant nose add ons to the pump nozzle are no longer required. Many stations have taken them off or not replaced them when they wore out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    You can seel the level in the tank on most models. The best is to fill till it bubbles back throught the breather slots. Here we have to hold back the elephant trunk added to the filling nozzel because of EPA but works. On models without the analog this will get that small wedge at the top of the bar digital guage....They used to make a gizmo to hold back that nozzel cover....
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    I will add my .02 to the thread. This information usually accompanies gas mileage threads--as in fill the same each time.

    For whatever reason, the gas settles a bit after pump shut off. I fill until the gas reaches the metal ring. Let it settle for a couple seconds, and re-fill to the ring. Done.

    This method gets the two cylinder (and I have had four of them) to at least 150 miles before the light goes on. The three cylinder gets 210 or so before the light.

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    If I'm filling close to "E" on my '15 RT-S I can only get about 5 gal in with the nozzle in half way. pulling it back to just barley in I can put another gal and a half in. Most I've put in is 6.58 gallons. that gets me about 230 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    I will add my .02 to the thread. This information usually accompanies gas mileage threads--as in fill the same each time.

    For whatever reason, the gas settles a bit after pump shut off. I fill until the gas reaches the metal ring. Let it settle for a couple seconds, and re-fill to the ring. Done.

    This method gets the two cylinder (and I have had four of them) to at least 150 miles before the light goes on. The three cylinder gets 210 or so before the light.

    WARNING, WARNING, WARNING--YOUR FILL LIGHT RESULTS MAY BE DIFFERENT.
    All filler nozzles are double walled tubes. There is a small pinhole on the end that when liquid gas reaches it, it causes a vacuum break in the handle that shuts off flow. When you're filling the tank, the gas sloshes about and the "waves" cause the pump to shut off early before the tank is truly full. Waiting a couple of seconds for the sloshing to stop and withdrawing the nozzle a bit let's you fill that final bit of gas. "Top off the tank" is exactly that... filling it that last bit.
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    OK, since when did the common sense of pumping gas become so complicated?
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    My version of the "2-Stage" tank fill is this:
    1. Insert the fuel filler nozzle completely into the gas tank set it on auto fill, and wait till it shuts off.
    2. Reposition the fuel filler nozzle until it just sits in the gas tank opening. Set it on the first auto setting, and wait till it shuts off
    Put the gas cap back on and go on down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBros View Post
    Yup, right on! Had to do it today with 93 Harvey gas @ $3.20/gal, about $.40 more than normal. Station was flat out of low and mid grade so everyone was buying 93; wouldn't have used low/mid anyway.
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    Fill till it clicks off then pull the nozzle out a little and run it slow till it spits out the vent like Ann described. Once it does that, dont do it again because you may over fill it. You should see the level right to the bottom of that filler neck, If you dont do that and ride in a group, you may run out before you get to the destination. That happened to a lady riding with us to Spyderfest last April in the rain.
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    Another good question is when to Refill. Dont wait till you get to the last bar or the low fuel light comes on. Once your gas level starts to make you think about it, pull over and fill up. It will give you a needed break anyways. No need to occupy your mind about your gas level. It will allow you to enjoy your ryde so much better and relax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2 View Post
    OK, since when did the common sense of pumping gas become so complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asp125 View Post
    "Top off the tank" is exactly that... filling it that last bit.
    BUT.....there is a point past which you should NOT go.
    Having it too full is a bad thing.

    AND making most gas delivery nozzles run "slowly" is nearly impossible.
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