Engine Stop Switch -- Really?

[Firefly]

Very interesting thread (especially since I'm the OP )!

Based on the responses in the thread, I've started using the Kill Switch to shut the engine off when I'm done riding. Today, I simply turned the key to the OFF position instead, just for the heck of it - and the Spyder started chirping at me for about 10-15 seconds.

My GUESS is that it didn't like that I left it in first gear when shutting it off with the key. (The emergency brake was already set.)

So why does it chirp when shutting off with the key, while it doesn't chirp when I use the kill switch instead? (In both instances, I'm in first gear and the emergency brake is set.)

Thanks!

See all the trouble you started!

Can't speak for how the SE works and why you get chirps.... I'm sure someone else can chirp in on this.....

[Peteoz]

Very interesting thread (especially since I'm the OP )!

Based on the responses in the thread, I've started using the Kill Switch to shut the engine off when I'm done riding. Today, I simply turned the key to the OFF position instead, just for the heck of it - and the Spyder started chirping at me for about 10-15 seconds.

My GUESS is that it didn't like that I left it in first gear when shutting it off with the key. (The emergency brake was already set.)

So why does it chirp when shutting off with the key, while it doesn't chirp when I use the kill switch instead? (In both instances, I'm in first gear and the emergency brake is set.)

Thanks!

i've got a 16 F3-L, and I always put it in first gear and apply the handbrake before I switch it off with the key, Newbert. I have never had chirping in that scenario, so I can't imagine that was the cause. Sorry, but I don't know what else may have caused it.

Pete

[SpyderAnn01]

Were you hitting the brake switch at the same time you switched the key off? I think the beep is triggered by the key and not the cutoff switch so if the brake isn't fully engaged when you turn the key it may trigger the beep.

[BLACK REV 800 X]

On my 2017 F3 Limited, about 3 seconds after shutting down with the key I get a faint chirp similar to how a smoke detector bad battery warning sounds. If you don't listen for it you won't hear it as it is faint.

[SpyderAnn01]

On my 2017 F3 Limited, about 3 seconds after shutting down with the key I get a faint chirp similar to how a smoke detector bad battery warning sounds. If you don't listen for it you won't hear it as it is faint.

I believe he's talking about the parking brake alarm.

[newbert]

I believe he's talking about the parking brake alarm.

I'll try it again today and will make sure that the parking brake is engaged first before turning it off with the key. (I'm not 100% sure that it was.....)

Thanks.

[kbwitt]

I always shift into neutral, apply the emergency brake, and then hit the kill switch I immediately reset the kill switch so I am ready to go again. This was taught to by an experienced Spyder Ryder and it makes sense. So I know where it is, without thinking about it, and I am aware of what it does. In fact on our Iron Butt, I was doing 75 across the desert 🌵 experienced a loss of power. It freaked me out! Looked at the kill switch and I saw that I had hit with my hand and shut the machine down. Flipped the switch without ever stopping and the engine came back to life and espoused to throttle input. Did it again crossing South Dakota this year. Certainly wakes you up!

Wow that could of very dangerous. Going 75 and loosing all power to steering, brakes , throttle. Maybe we should ask can Am not to out them on because they serve more dangerous then positive.

[SpyderAnn01]

Wow that could of very dangerous. Going 75 and loosing all power to steering, brakes , throttle. Maybe we should ask can Am not to out them on because they serve more dangerous then positive.

No, if you famiarize yourself with all of your controls you should know how to operate them. That would be like saying if someone has trouble finding their turn signal button in the dark then no one should ride in the dark.

[kbwitt]

No, if you famiarize yourself with all of your controls you should know how to operate them. That would be like saying if someone has trouble finding their turn signal button in the dark then no one should ride in the dark.

Yes it's dangerous if people hit it by accident and loose all power, especially at 75 miles an hour I think its dangerousI I think they serve less safety then dangers. CAm Amy should not put them on.

[TRLBLZR1]

Here's an interesting twist (regarding shutdown and restart) on my F3-S (se):

Gave up setting the parking brake @ home. Found it inconvenient having to go through a pre-start ritual just to move it around in the garage. Instead, I just shut it off in neutral without setting brake (via key & removing key/) I listen to it beep a few seconds. Leaves my machine in a state where it's easy to move around. ~ Thinking it might not be such a bad idea to find and pull the beeper power lead. (to completely eliminate the warning)

Anyone done that?

[Bob Denman]

Yes it's dangerous if people hit it by accident and loose all power, especially at 75 miles an hour I think its dangerousI I think they serve less safety then dangers. CAm Amy should not put them on.

They are required to put them on the bikes...

[Pirate looks at --]

Yes it's dangerous if people hit it by accident and loose all power, especially at 75 miles an hour I think its dangerousI I think they serve less safety then dangers. CAm Amy should not put them on.

Not really, because I was familiar with the control, I knew that as soon as I flipped the switch back the engine immediately fired and I was back under way. In fact my dealer took me out on a shake down run on the machine when I bought it, and had me hit the kill switch so I would be familiar with what happens. So as Ann said, it pays to be familiar with all of the controls on the motorcycle.

[trickstar911]

After picking up my new Spyder this afternoon, I've been pouring thru the manual.

I see that it recommends turning off the engine by using the "Engine Stop Switch" rather than simply turning the key and removing it (like you would with a car). I guess my question is whether that extra step (turning off that switch, then having to turn it back on when re-starting the Spyder) is really necessary? Do all of you experienced Spyder Ryders use than switch (on/off) each and every time?

Thanks!

ive a faulty stop switch , is it servicable ?? ie presure on .. bike starts release pressure .. stops...

[Cobwebs]

They are required to put them on the bikes...

That's what I was thinking, it's a legal nanny state thing to save us from ourselves, like reversing beepers on a steam roller.

[ChicagoSpyder]

The "Kill Switch" has absolutely no value other then another means of turning off the bike. It is not a means of accident reduction. It will not assist in anything anywhere at anytime other then giving you a warm fuzzy feeling that you are doing "something". Pressing the "eco" button likewise does absolutely nothing and both are advice given by lawyers to reduce financial loss.

By the time you figure out to shut off your engine after an accident your significant other has already cashed in your life insurance policy and is sitting on a beach drinking pinna coladas. This of course is after you were scraped off the tread of the truck that ran over you.

You have obviously never had a throttle stick or freeze at WFO, I have on both a bike and a snowmobile, the last time was in 2010 on my 190 HP sled at night on a trail that crossed a large field before heading back into the woods, I was about 100 yards from the tree line when I lifted off the throttle at 100 mph....the throttle safety switch without question saved my happy ass that night along with my mad riding skills

It's obvious that Bombi wants folks to familarize themselves and experiment with the kill switch so they will react and know what to expect in a situation where the throttle hangs open, thus saving one's significant other the bother of contacting the life insurance company