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    Default F3 Engine Check Light with display "Check DPS"

    The problem named in the title frame began right from day one and has mystified the dealership's service techs. It happens after the machine has run 30 - 40 miles at highway speeds and clears when the bike is shut down. The problem has left no audit trail that can be read by the service department's diagnostic software. Am I the only one who has experienced this? Thanks for any help or tips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedsterjohnny View Post
    The problem named in the title frame began right from day one and has mystified the dealership's service techs. It happens after the machine has run 30 - 40 miles at highway speeds and clears when the bike is shut down. The problem has left no audit trail that can be read by the service department's diagnostic software. Am I the only one who has experienced this? Thanks for any help or tips.
    Weird Thought.

    First, you need to "pull active codes" before you shut the bike down (if you haven't already) -- not sure how that is done on an F3 as I have an RT, so don't know if the sequence is the same. It is odd that there are no codes stored, which is what I believe happens to active codes upon shutdown. Anyway, I had a similar experience just after a service where the CB / antenna or the GPS was worked on and, for some reason the seat was pulled off (not sure exactly why, probably to get to the GPS connectors). I had just turned the key on and cleared the display, then sat on the bike ... similar message with an icon that indicates check DPS. I pulled codes before I shut the key off and grabbed my handy SpyderCodes app -- wish I could remember the code, but it has been months ago. SpyderCodes made it clear that something was "wrong" with the pillion sensor ... so I popped the seat up and there it was, sitting unplugged under the seat. Plugged it back in and all was good. Maybe there is s similar connector on the F3 that is loose or has a loose connection within.

    So ... weird thought; but not out of the realm of possibilities .... all the best .... Ann
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    Not sure what "pull active codes" means or how to do it. Since the code seems to disappear when the machine is shut down, that would seem to be the time to do it but I don't know how. Does this require a code reader like an OBDII device on a car or is there an on board procedure to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedsterjohnny View Post
    The problem named in the title frame began right from day one and has mystified the dealership's service techs. It happens after the machine has run 30 - 40 miles at highway speeds and clears when the bike is shut down. The problem has left no audit trail that can be read by the service department's diagnostic software. Am I the only one who has experienced this? Thanks for any help or tips.
    If your Dealer's TECHS can't pull up the codes .... there is something wrong with what they are doing!!!! ..... At Spyderfest 2014 a BRP Tech (Danny) solved a mystery issue with my RSS that a dealer tech claimed he couldn't find ...... Danny said I had over 240 stored codes of SE paddle issues in the COMPUTER ..... If it OCCURS, it is logged into the computer, they can contact BRP for assistance in retrieving them...... My dealer Tech did and finally fixed my problem under warranty ....... good luck, Mike ............ sometimes you need to be PUSHY
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    I agree. If it displayed the error, the code is stored. If the dealer cannot read it its because they do not know how to use BUDS. Have them call BRP for assistance. If they refuse, call BRP yourself for a referral to a different dealer.

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    I have gotten BRP involved and am expecting a call from them tomorrow. Wish me luck and thanks for the replies. I think I am going to enjoy this group and hopefully will have more to contribute as time goes along. I am a fledgling moto vlogger and have a few videos on YouTube under the name "Speedsterjohnny". I'm still working on technical issues and improving my delivery techniques.... I hope to become a smoother talker.
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    Well, in spite of two emails from BRP promising a call from customer support within 24 hours, it never happened. This is distressing and is it what I can expect going forward? I am not a happy camper. BTW, I was told by one of the techs at the dealership that they were having trouble with the laptop, apparently the one they use to read the codes. Perhaps this is why they were stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedsterjohnny View Post
    Well, in spite of two emails from BRP promising a call from customer support within 24 hours, it never happened. This is distressing and is it what I can expect going forward? I am not a happy camper. BTW, I was told by one of the techs at the dealership that they were having trouble with the laptop, apparently the one they use to read the codes. Perhaps this is why they were stuck.
    Hi Speedsterjohnny,

    Please let us know if you still haven't heard back from your dealer. If you'd like, you can send us an e-mail with your VIN or case number and we can help move things forward.

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    FWIW, I had a DPS error come on a few weeks back, restarted the bike then it was gone, as soon as I turned the wheels it came back and power steering was lost, I had several repetitions over a couple of days, then it came on hard.

    So the Spyder has been back with the AD for 2 weeks now, apparently waiting on parts.This is the second DPS I have had fail, one failed on the GS too.

    @ BRP why on earth fit this nugatory piece of kit, without the weight of the DPS the steering wouldn't need power assistance. Just another example of bad design and don't get me started on the overengineering or build quality.
    The powdercoating is already off my rear sprocket after 2,500 miles!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pig View Post
    FWIW, I had a DPS error come on a few weeks back, restarted the bike then it was gone, as soon as I turned the wheels it came back and power steering was lost, I had several repetitions over a couple of days, then it came on hard.

    So the Spyder has been back with the AD for 2 weeks now, apparently waiting on parts.This is the second DPS I have had fail, one failed on the GS too.

    @ BRP why on earth fit this nugatory piece of kit, without the weight of the DPS the steering wouldn't need power assistance. Just another example of bad design and don't get me started on the overengineering or build quality.
    The powdercoating is already off my rear sprocket after 2,500 miles!!
    Your Problem Sounds Worse Than Mine.

    ​When I reset (shut down) the problem goes away. It is sporadic and I never know when it will occur. On my last trip, I was on the interstate for a number of miles with no problem, but on the return trip, also with a few miles on the interstate, it showed up again. Even though the check engine light comes on and the message appears, there is no change in the handling; It does not appear to be affecting the power steering so it seems like a bogus message. Still, I don't think it's a problem that I should ignore. Thanks for the post!
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    retrieving active codes yourself

    it takes two hands to retrieve codes. With the key on and the display normal, take your left thumb and depress the eco and the set button at the same time. While those two buttons are down take your right thumb and press the turn signal button straight in. So for just a moment you are pressing three buttons in at the same time. All three buttons are on the left handle bar controls.
    If the screen is blank there are no active codes. If you see letters and numbers like P0172 that is an example of codes.
    The next time you see any idiot lights, pull over and get the codes.



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    Speedster; Any update? Having the same issues and the dealer is calling for replacing DPS.
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