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    There IS a lot of useful information in it...
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    And on the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinLV View Post
    Instead of BROWSING try READING the manual!

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    I have been riding a LONG time - back when motorcycles only automated feature was a speedometer, if that. A few years ago I bought a car that came with two thick manuals - one for the car itself and another for all the gadgets (audio, etc.). The Spyder's manual is about half that size but I doubt I will ever get the hang of (1) put one finger here and hold while (2) placing other hand on switch B here then (c) put switch to start - and don't forget to put foot on brake. I ran out of digits trying to operate this damn thing!

    I'll just give it time to learn the important things and hit the manual otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RinconRyder View Post
    I have been riding a LONG time - back when motorcycles only automated feature was a speedometer, if that. A few years ago I bought a car that came with two thick manuals - one for the car itself and another for all the gadgets (audio, etc.). The Spyder's manual is about half that size but I doubt I will ever get the hang of (1) put one finger here and hold while (2) placing other hand on switch B here then (c) put switch to start - and don't forget to put foot on brake. I ran out of digits trying to operate this damn thing!

    I'll just give it time to learn the important things and hit the manual otherwise.
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    A lot of us end up learning things in this manner...
    When we find a "gap" in a necessary part of what we need to know: we fill it!
    But they DID give you that nicely-packaged manaul for a reason...
    (It would certainly make for good reading material when you're "on the throne"! )
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinconRyder View Post
    I have been riding a LONG time - back when motorcycles only automated feature was a speedometer, if that. A few years ago I bought a car that came with two thick manuals - one for the car itself and another for all the gadgets (audio, etc.). The Spyder's manual is about half that size but I doubt I will ever get the hang of (1) put one finger here and hold while (2) placing other hand on switch B here then (c) put switch to start - and don't forget to put foot on brake. I ran out of digits trying to operate this damn thing!

    I'll just give it time to learn the important things and hit the manual otherwise.
    Many of us have ridden a long time. Me, since 1964 and almost 50 assorted 2-wheelers. The is a totally different machine. It took me 1500 miles to get comfortable with it. Just saying. You have come on board and it seems like you were asking for advice to overcome your observations. Now, it seems you have an argument or a I am not going to do it that way for everything that someone suggests. You may find your help slowly going away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Many of us have ridden a long time. Me, since 1964 and almost 50 assorted 2-wheelers. The is a totally different machine. It took me 1500 miles to get comfortable with it. Just saying. You have come on board and it seems like you were asking for advice to overcome your observations. Now, it seems you have an argument or a I am not going to do it that way for everything that someone suggests. You may find your help slowly going away.
    Not dissing the help at all. Just venting a bit. Before I bought the Spyder I noted all the negative comments about the "nanny". Now I understand why.

    I bought it largely so the wifey could drive it and that may be how it spends its life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    The shifting gets better as you put some miles on it and after its first oil change. Especially if you switch to a good fully synthetic oil.

    Do not let off the throttle during upshifts.
    But do you roll off the throtle during manual downshifts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclekid58 View Post
    But do you roll off the throtle during manual downshifts?
    Not with the SE transmission! If you do, you will make the change 'less smooth'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    Not with the SE transmission! If you do, you will make the change 'less smooth'!
    Thanks Peter, I read the manual and it was clear on the upshift, but unless I missed it, the manual downshift was not clear so I had to ask.
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    You probably will find that most of your downshifting is done when you're slowing down. That's when you would most likely be off the throttle anyway!
    (Not counting a downshift for a pass: of course! )
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    Default Auto down has it's uses

    The other night I was riding home from work at around midnight when I crested a blind hill and found a deer standing in my lane. I was riding my wife's ST, and came to a nauseating stop in a hurry. The deer looked at me for just a second before it turned away and took off. I immediately got back on the gas because I was worried about a car coming over the hill behind me. When I did I realized that even though I had not downshifted, the ST was already in first gear, and it took off quickly. On my RS-S I would have had to shift down before I could have taken off again.

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