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    Default 2012 Spyder rt - Turn the key and nothing at all happens

    Help ! the sun is out and I took a short test ride, came home and packed for the day. got on and turned the key and noting happens at all. No lights, no noise, no nothing. Battery has been on charge all winter, terminals are tight. Any Ideas??????

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    first thing I would do is remove the battery cables and clean the terminals. then spray some battery anti corrosion on them.

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    Check your fuses and relays. Are any fuses burnt out? Are the relay fully seated in their socket?

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    Qriginal battery? If so, it's toast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasi View Post
    first thing I would do is remove the battery cables and clean the terminals. then spray some battery anti corrosion on them.
    It is the original battery, it tested good, there is power to the leads (metered) and I rode it 10 miles just prior to this problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Check your fuses and relays. Are any fuses burnt out? Are the relay fully seated in their socket?
    I have not checked that I was thinking there was a fuseable link somewhere in the line

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    No fuseable links used in a Spyder. Just fuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    No fuseable links used in a Spyder. Just fuses.
    Going fuse hunting - I'll let you all know , thanks for the fast reply's!

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    There are 2 fuse boxes to check. On a 2012 RT, I think the mains are under the seat.

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    Try jumping it, if it starts it's a bad battery.

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    Just don't leave the vehicle running, that you're jumping it from...
    Let them sit for a couple of minutes, and then try to start it.
    Good luck!

    ...And if nothing happens: it's definitely in the fuses...
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    Default Agree...

    One more for hooking up to another power source. This will show if you have a good connection to the system and the battery is the issue...When you say connected to the charger, it that a maintainer or other charger trickle type..?? many will give you a good surface charge with maybe one good start and them nothing left. Let us know what you find as you trace on back in the system....
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    Kill switch off?

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    Default OK This is what I have

    I checked all the fuses, good I took the visible terminals off cleaned with a tooth brush and electric clean. I hit the horn accidently and there was a very faint click. I hooked up my Shop jumper battery again and this time everything came to life. But still have no juice from the charged machines battery. So I'm off to figure out how to get at the battery &^*%%, it does not look simple

    Thanks for all your help, this is a great forum!

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    Default BATTERY

    You had enough power to fire it up once, and that was the end of it. new battery time don't get a cheap one replace your battery every two years maybe three even if you think it's good and you won't have this problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybackhoe View Post
    I checked all the fuses, good I took the visible terminals off cleaned with a tooth brush and electric clean. I hit the horn accidently and there was a very faint click. I hooked up my Shop jumper battery again and this time everything came to life. But still have no juice from the charged machines battery. So I'm off to figure out how to get at the battery &^*%%, it does not look simple

    Thanks for all your help, this is a great forum!
    battery swap is easy. remove the left side panel and the black plastic panel under left side of seat. all there is to it. and when you change it use the star washers on the bolts. I call them alligator washers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybackhoe View Post
    It is the original battery, it tested good, there is power to the leads (metered) and I rode it 10 miles just prior to this problem
    It's bad. A battery can still have power but if its output drops under 10.5 volts it won't work in a Spyder.

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    If you cleaned the visible terminals & are now moaning about finding & getting battery out, you can't have cleaned & tightened the actual battery terminals
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    Check your charger also. I have no less than 10 chargers and maintainers operating all the time. One of the maintainers quit working but the lights were indicating it was working but actually was dead, putting out nothing and battery ran down. Also changing battery is simple, follow Bob Finless video and you will have no problem. Took me 30 minutes on a 2012 RTL. Replace with a Yuasa as others have indicated, it is what it comes with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybackhoe View Post
    I checked all the fuses, good I took the visible terminals off cleaned with a tooth brush and electric clean. I hit the horn accidently and there was a very faint click. I hooked up my Shop jumper battery again and this time everything came to life. But still have no juice from the charged machines battery. So I'm off to figure out how to get at the battery &^*%%, it does not look simple

    Thanks for all your help, this is a great forum!

    This is should help :-

    https://youtu.be/aCsNYNU6eYo

    Thanks to Finless Bob

    Found some other videos

    https://youtu.be/xNe09_ii7uI

    https://youtu.be/F-QKaanJDmE
    Last edited by eddieshep999; 04-08-2017 at 12:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    If you cleaned the visible terminals & are now moaning about finding & getting battery out, you can't have cleaned & tightened the actual battery terminals
    Yes I had only cleaned the visible leads , now that the panel is off, I can't believe how dirty it is in there. Any ideas on the best way to clean it out? Air is not doing that great a job. Pressure washer?

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    Default take a photo

    if yo can take a photo of what the area looks like for the next person who has this problem , { if you can that is } I think the idea when you have the battery charged , and cycle running , turn on every thing , lights on high , flashers , any thing with electric , look at the volt meter , if it is staying in the good zone on charge , the system is working too the battery , if everything shuts down ---- well , lets start there { any one every mess with the mag charger ? } magneto < --- think that is how we might spell it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybackhoe View Post
    Yes I had only cleaned the visible leads , now that the panel is off, I can't believe how dirty it is in there. Any ideas on the best way to clean it out? Air is not doing that great a job. Pressure washer?

    Were the terminals loose, corroded etc?

    Never had to clean the battery compartment but maybe a rubber glove & a hot soapy rag to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddieshep999 View Post
    This is should help :-

    https://youtu.be/aCsNYNU6eYo

    Thanks to Finless Bob

    Found some other videos

    https://youtu.be/xNe09_ii7uI

    https://youtu.be/F-QKaanJDmE
    OK, Here's the result, First thanks again to all, and the videos on this link and can am TV for great insight as to how to get into the machine.

    Evidently this was not the factory battery. The positive boot was mangled by the last owner or shop, push pins damaged so I was not the first one in. Who ever put the last battery never even tried to tighten the leads. I got a full turn on both the positive and negative battery posts. As soon as I tightened them I was running. So I removed / cleaned and torqued them up. The battery was fine
    Lots of dirt

    I cleaned the grime with air and a 2" paint brush to loosen the dirt as I went
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    Glad to hear that you're back up on three!
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