Help Needed with RSS-SE5 Trans

[spyderwing]

2012 Rss Se5. 29500miles. Changed oil last Wed. Found 2 pieces of wire on the engine drain plug magnet. Put together they do not form a complete circle. More like a C shape- so c clip?? Very small-12mm or 1/2" diameter when put together. 2 pieces are round not flat metal. Diameter is Smaller than a dime!! Finished the oil change with Castrol synthetic motorcycle oil and filters etc.. Did not start the Spyder until Sat. It did not want to stay running- kept dying- had to roll throttle to more rpms for several minutes-then it evened out and kept its normal idle. Shifted to reverse and moved back 5-10 feet. An awful shuddering- vibration feeling and noise happened about foot level and toward the front of engine. Shifted to 1st- same awful stuff moving forward. This is in the garage at very very low speed. Repeated this several times-same results. Just prior to the oil change everything was fine- started-ran- moved normally-also in garage to position it and warm it up for oil change. Clip must have broken then? It feels like trans parts are moving and sliding into other parts/gears causing the awful sounding/feeling experience. It runs fine in neutral with none of the shuddering. I would appreciate your help, thoughts, and/or advice. I don't want to take it out of the garage-scary. Thanks. John

[Motorcycledave]

I am not a transmission man but if it were mine I would load it up on a trailer and
go to the local dealer and pray it is not a big deal, Transmissions are not cheeeep to fix
I just had the one in my Ford 1 ton F350 done at AAMCO $3500.00 ouch
Good Luck
Dave

2012 Rss Se5. 29500miles. Changed oil last Wed. Found 2 pieces of wire on the engine drain plug magnet. Put together they do not form a complete circle. More like a C shape- so c clip?? Very small-12mm or 1/2" diameter when put together. 2 pieces are round not flat metal. Diameter is Smaller than a dime!! Finished the oil change with Castrol synthetic motorcycle oil and filters etc.. Did not start the Spyder until Sat. It did not want to stay running- kept dying- had to roll throttle to more rpms for several minutes-then it evened out and kept its normal idle. Shifted to reverse and moved back 5-10 feet. An awful shuddering- vibration feeling and noise happened about foot level and toward the front of engine. Shifted to 1st- same awful stuff moving forward. This is in the garage at very very low speed. Repeated this several times-same results. Just prior to the oil change everything was fine- started-ran- moved normally-also in garage to position it and warm it up for oil change. Clip must have broken then? It feels like trans parts are moving and sliding into other parts/gears causing the awful sounding/feeling experience. It runs fine in neutral with none of the shuddering. I would appreciate your help, thoughts, and/or advice. I don't want to take it out of the garage-scary. Thanks. John

[Chupaca]

C clips tend to keep things from sliding past a desigated point. Looks like it's time to split the cases. Could also be in the clutch if SE model in which case easier job. Hope it is the later...

[spyderwing]

Please elaborate a bit on this term- have heard it before but no involvement until now. Thanks..

[spyderwing]

Looked through all the parts diagram pages today. Found 1 similar part in the clutch diagram- a snap ring at a $1.99. Cant tell for sure if this is the failed part but the closest and only match I could find. Any ideas if this part breaking is the reason for the shuddering/vibrations?? Any ideas on the labor and associated costs to replace this failed part as will need dealer involvement to fix it. I checked the oil every 300 to 400 miles and always had to add 4 to 6 oz to keep the oil level at the full mark. Checked it by the book!! Is this unusual oil use or have any other Rss owners experienced anything similar or not so?? Thanks. John

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Looked through all the parts diagram pages today. Found 1 similar part in the clutch diagram- a snap ring at a $1.99. Cant tell for sure if this is the failed part but the closest and only match I could find. Any ideas if this part breaking is the reason for the shuddering/vibrations?? Any ideas on the labor and associated costs to replace this failed part as will need dealer involvement to fix it. I checked the oil every 300 to 400 miles and always had to add 4 to 6 oz to keep the oil level at the full mark. Checked it by the book!! Is this unusual oil use or have any other Rss owners experienced anything similar or not so?? Thanks. John

Your issue is not common for this engine - certainly not at this mileage ..... upon hearing this type of noise why would you keep driving / moving it ????? ......... and oil consumption on your engine is a bit high even for a V-twin which does use a bit of oil , but usually not as much as yours does ......... also it doesn't matter what model - it's what engine and there are only TWO .. the V-twin and the 1330 triple ...... I agree with " Chupaca " above , cir-clips are used to prevent or limit sideways movement , I think one of yours broke...... talk to a mechanic .., or PM , DrewNJ for advice He knows engines ... Mike