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    Default 2014 RT Defective engine casting

    I am currently looking to purchase a very low mileage 2014 RT Ltd, Black Currant color.
    Recently, however, I learned from a 'reliable' source that there was a run of 2014 RTs, which had defective engine castings, which would eventually leak oil and require 'Bondo' patching. I understand that these bikes had to be returned to BRP - incidentally, these were of the Black Currant color as well.

    Is this a valid report? Steve(of BRP), if you read this post, will you please respond, concerning it's validity? If true, might I then send you the VIN of the RT in question, to determine if its engine was involved?

    Thanks, Fritz

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    None that I am aware of.

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    I know of one machine this porous casting happened with. Forgot the color.

    As for a Bondo patch, that I never heard before. The machine I mentioned above was repaired by engine replacement.

    There may have been others, but the problem seemed pretty rare and random.

    We have an early 2014 RTS, purchased in January 2014. I have tried to keep aware of known issues since it was the first year for that series.

    The known concerns were the ignition switch / key recall by key code number. This involved replacing the ignition switch because the key got stuck. Some engines had a slight oil leak from the oil galley setscrew plug. This was addressed by removing the setscrew, properly cleaning the threads and installing a new setscrew after priming with Loctite and installing wet with a Loctite product. The most concerning issue with a 2014 model is DESS issues.

    Outside of that you still contend with known low quality tires which is an issue for all years.

    When looking for a 2014 Black RTS, you may find it better to go by the build date if the porous cases are still a concern. Those early machines should have 2013 or very early 2014 dates. The build date is on the sticker, near the drive belt, on the swingarm.

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    One bike doesn't indicate a pervasive problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    One bike doesn't indicate a pervasive problem...

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    Maybe I did not convey that, but my thoughts 100%.

    No doubt be diligent with good upkeep, but I think a problem of this sort would be well sorted out or exposed on a specific bike by now.

    Also, my linking was to show engines had been replaced, not a Bondo patch.

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    Glad mine is White!


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    2014 rt owner
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    Default Let's see....

    Not to be confused with the run of spyders that had the engine cover bolt that caused some leaks...that was a quick fix. Otherwise have not heard of any casting problems.... and this would be the place to hear it....
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    I have a 2014 Black RTS limited with 25,000 miles on it still going strong.
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    Mine is "Orange", and everything is still "Tight & Right"!
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    My 2014 RT-S has almost 25K on it. Like Bob said "still tight and right."

    Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.

    Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMK View Post
    I know of one machine this porous casting happened with. Forgot the color.

    As for a Bondo patch, that I never heard before. The machine I mentioned above was repaired by engine replacement.

    There may have been others, but the problem seemed pretty rare and random.

    We have an early 2014 RTS, purchased in January 2014. I have tried to keep aware of known issues since it was the first year for that series.

    The known concerns were the ignition switch / key recall by key code number. This involved replacing the ignition switch because the key got stuck. Some engines had a slight oil leak from the oil galley setscrew plug. This was addressed by removing the setscrew, properly cleaning the threads and installing a new setscrew after priming with Loctite and installing wet with a Loctite product. The most concerning issue with a 2014 model is DESS issues.

    Outside of that you still contend with known low quality tires which is an issue for all years.

    When looking for a 2014 Black RTS, you may find it better to go by the build date if the porous cases are still a concern. Those early machines should have 2013 or very early 2014 dates. The build date is on the sticker, near the drive belt, on the swingarm.
    STEVE - BRP - are you out there? I attempted to send a message to BRPcare, with the VIN number, but got the reply that BRPCARE does not respond to private messages. BRP - I won't proceed with this purchase, unless I receive a definitive answer from you.

    The build date on this bike is 4/20/2014. Incidentally, this bike(2335 miles) was bought at auction in Texas, and is now at a dealership(non-CanAm) in Missouri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzer1 View Post
    STEVE - BRP - are you out there? I attempted to send a message to BRPcare, with the VIN number, but got the reply that BRPCARE does not respond to private messages. BRP - I won't proceed with this purchase, unless I receive a definitive answer from you.

    The build date on this bike is 4/20/2014. Incidentally, this bike(2335 miles) was bought at auction in Texas, and is now at a dealership(non-CanAm) in Missouri.
    Use the following address: brp.care@brp.com

    They do not answer PM's sent to this site.

    Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.

    Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)

    MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles

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    Default OIL LEAK

    Quote Originally Posted by fritzer1 View Post
    I am currently looking to purchase a very low mileage 2014 RT Ltd, Black Currant color.
    Recently, however, I learned from a 'reliable' source that there was a run of 2014 RTs, which had defective engine castings, which would eventually leak oil and require 'Bondo' patching. I understand that these bikes had to be returned to BRP - incidentally, these were of the Black Currant color as well.

    Is this a valid report? Steve(of BRP), if you read this post, will you please respond, concerning it's validity? If true, might I then send you the VIN of the RT in question, to determine if its engine was involved?

    Thanks, Fritz
    " BONDO " patching ...reliable source ???? .....like others have indicated, IMHO this comes under the heading Urban Myth ..... or " if you heard it on the internet - it must be true " sort of thing ........Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Use the following address: brp.care@brp.com

    They do not answer PM's sent to this site.
    THANKS

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    Default Just Traded My 2014 RTL

    Quote Originally Posted by fritzer1 View Post
    I am currently looking to purchase a very low mileage 2014 RT Ltd, Black Currant color.
    Recently, however, I learned from a 'reliable' source that there was a run of 2014 RTs, which had defective engine castings, which would eventually leak oil and require 'Bondo' patching. I understand that these bikes had to be returned to BRP - incidentally, these were of the Black Currant color as well.

    Is this a valid report? Steve(of BRP), if you read this post, will you please respond, concerning it's validity? If true, might I then send you the VIN of the RT in question, to determine if its engine was involved?

    Thanks, Fritz
    I just traded my 2014 RTL Pearl White for a 2016 RTS Special. The Can AM Tech said it was in great shape. I've never had any leaks, never added oil between changes @ about 5000 mile intervals. traded with 21000 miles. Never heard of any issues, other than an initial leak in one set screw.
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    My machine also received an engine replacement due to leaking in the casing. I won't lie about the experience as it wasn't fun and wasn't needed at all. Took about 65 days from start to finish. Everything is working fine at this point.

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    Could Black Spyders be like Black Cats: Bad Luck??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Could Black Spyders be like Black Cats: Bad Luck??
    Not mine.

    Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.

    Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)

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    This was not my issue with ending my relationship with CanAm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brogers57 View Post
    My machine also received an engine replacement due to leaking in the casing. I won't lie about the experience as it wasn't fun and wasn't needed at all. Took about 65 days from start to finish. Everything is working fine at this point.
    Wrote BRPcare and gave them VIN and Build date - no response yet.

    Can you tell me the build date on your RT?

    Bike I am looking at has build date of 4/20/2014 - date found on label on swing arm.

    Thanks

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    05/2014


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brogers57 View Post
    05/2014


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    One thing to note, it sure did suck to go through all that but I love my bike. Things do happen sadly.


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