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Arachnid rear tire vs kenda
Have hit the "center of tire" wear bars at under 6,000 miles and my local dealer offers only these 2 choices. I've not seen any feed back on the Arachnid and any updates will be appreciated. They won't Install a tire not purchased there. Of course only the middle of the tire is wearing out.
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IF THE MIDDLE IS WEARING QUICKER THAN THE OUTSIDE EDGES, YOUR PSI IS TOO HIGH... DROP IT DOWN 1 - 3 PSI....
AS FOR OTHER REAR TIRES.... THIS WEBSITE IS ABSOLUTELY LOADED WITH TIRE INFO... DO A SEARCH AND READ ALL THE INPUT, THEN DETERMINE WHETHER YOU WANT THE OEM OR 'OTHER' TIRE.....
I'M ON MY 5th KUMHO, AND WILL MOUNT A MICHELIN HYDROEDGE NEXT TIME.....
HAPPY HUNTING...
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Arachnid rear tire vs kenda
I've read a lot of positive feedback for the Yokohama S Drive. Especially sized 205/55/15. Does the General or Michelin need to be 225 or 205 Like the Yokahama?
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Originally Posted by papanorm
I've read a lot of positive feedback for the Yokohama S Drive. Especially sized 205/55/15. Does the General or Michelin need to be 225 or 205 Like the Yokahama?
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per the USDOT, all tires with the same nomenclature are the same size: 225 on a KENDA is the same width as 225 on any other tire... same for the 50 and the R15.... sellect the tire you feel the most comfortable with, and go with that...
also, if you choose a 60 series tire, it's a bit taller and will correct the discrepancy in the speedo...
here, use this to compare different sizes of tires: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
good luck, and ride safely...
Dan P
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Thanks Dan!
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All amends rear tires wear in the middle first regardless of what tire pressure you run. The Arachnid are crappy. I ran 3 of them, two that were given to me to test and one that I paid for. You won't get any better mileage out of them than you do on a Kenda. Buy a car tire.
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Originally Posted by papanorm
I've read a lot of positive feedback for the Yokohama S Drive. Especially sized 205/55/15. Does the General or Michelin need to be 225 or 205 Like the Yokahama?
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For these get the 215/60-15 if you have an RT .........Mike
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Originally Posted by SPYD3R
per the USDOT, all tires with the same nomenclature are the same size: 225 on a KENDA is the same width as 225 on any other tire... same for the 50 and the R15.... sellect the tire you feel the most comfortable with, and go with that...
also, if you choose a 60 series tire, it's a bit taller and will correct the discrepancy in the speedo...
here, use this to compare different sizes of tires: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
good luck, and ride safely...
Dan P
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I don't dispute that USDOT mandate, but in reality, 2 different brand tires of the same "size" will likely measure out differentl. The difference may not be large, but it is clearly there. I continue to be amazed that so may people equate tire mileage with tire quality. The best and most expensive tires on the market usually have the shortest tread life. High- perf tires compromise their life for the incredible handling and safety afforded. Spend $600 on a car tire and you'll be lucky to see 10K easy miles on it! Buy a $150 tire that will go 60K miles and you'll have inferior sidewalls, sloppy behavior, poor heat qualities, and less traction. It reminds me of people that shop for UHDTVs based purely on screen size while neglecting all of the other specs.
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Originally Posted by petegtsv10
I don't dispute that USDOT mandate, but in reality, 2 different brand tires of the same "size" will likely measure out differentl. The difference may not be large, but it is clearly there. I continue to be amazed that so may people equate tire mileage with tire quality. The best and most expensive tires on the market usually have the shortest tread life. High- perf tires compromise their life for the incredible handling and safety afforded. Spend $600 on a car tire and you'll be lucky to see 10K easy miles on it! Buy a $150 tire that will go 60K miles and you'll have inferior sidewalls, sloppy behavior, poor heat qualities, and less traction. It reminds me of people that shop for UHDTVs based purely on screen size while neglecting all of the other specs.
PETE;
THERE IS A PLUS + & MINUS - FACTOR IN MEASUREMENTS, BUT IT'S SO MINUTE THAT IT'S NOT WORTH MENTIONING.... A 225 TIRE OF ANY MAKE WILL FALL WITHIN +/- .050 OF AN INCH EVERY TIME....
YES HOWEVER ON HIGH PRICED TIRES... THE VERY HIGHEST PRICED HAVE A UTQG RATING THAT IS MOST TIMES VERY LOW, WHICH IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WEAR... THOSE TIRES ARE MOSTLY PRODUCED FOR RACING AND HAVE A COMPOUND DESIGNED TO 'STICK' TO THE PAVEMENT AND WERE NEVER MEANT FOR STREET USE...
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Originally Posted by SPYD3R
PETE;
THERE IS A PLUS + & MINUS - FACTOR IN MEASUREMENTS, BUT IT'S SO MINUTE THAT IT'S NOT WORTH MENTIONING.... A 225 TIRE OF ANY MAKE WILL FALL WITHIN +/- .050 OF AN INCH EVERY TIME....
YES HOWEVER ON HIGH PRICED TIRES... THE VERY HIGHEST PRICED HAVE A UTQG RATING THAT IS MOST TIMES VERY LOW, WHICH IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WEAR... THOSE TIRES ARE MOSTLY PRODUCED FOR RACING AND HAVE A COMPOUND DESIGNED TO 'STICK' TO THE PAVEMENT AND WERE NEVER MEANT FOR STREET USE...
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On my 2006 ZO6 the Goodyear 325s were about .75" wider than the Michelin 335s. (Same wheel and correct width wheel) This difference is common in the car community. Michelin Pilot Super Sports are one example of a pure street tire (not track) that is expensive and will not give you high mileage. (The old Michelin PS were far worse) There are MANY examples of street (non-race-compound) tires that wear very quickly in favor of superior performance. I wish that some of theses hyper tires came in F3 sizes. With the weight of an F3, even these hyper tires would probably still get good mileage.
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I have a F3 and run a Kuhmo ECSTA on rear 225-50-R15 and Federal Formoza AZ01's on front 165-55-R15
I have 13000 on the rear and it still looks good. I just put the front's on.
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How do you like the traction of the Kumho rear tire?
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I've got over 11,000 miles on my Kumho, and it still sticks like it did, when it was new!
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OF COURSE
Originally Posted by petegtsv10
On my 2006 ZO6 the Goodyear 325s were about .75" wider than the Michelin 335s. (Same wheel and correct width wheel) This difference is common in the car community. Michelin Pilot Super Sports are one example of a pure street tire (not track) that is expensive and will not give you high mileage. (The old Michelin PS were far worse) There are MANY examples of street (non-race-compound) tires that wear very quickly in favor of superior performance. I wish that some of theses hyper tires came in F3 sizes. With the weight of an F3, even these hyper tires would probably still get good mileage.
OF COURSE IT'S 0.75 WIDER.... IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPARING A 325 TO A 335....
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Originally Posted by SPYD3R
OF COURSE IT'S 0.75 WIDER.... IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE COMPARING A 325 TO A 335....
But Pete is saying that the 325 is .75 wider than the supposedly wider 335, SPY3ER. Plus, if there is only a difference of up to ".05 of an inch every time" in a 225, why is the Kenda 225 the same size as the Yokohama S drive in 205?
Peter Aawen mentioned in an earlier post that manufacturers measure differently. Some take the measurement at completion, while some take the measurement before adding any layers, meaning that there can be a quite significant difference. This was borne out when I looked at a gazillion (more than one) tyres at the local shop for the rear of my F3. I measured 215 tyres that were wider than 225 tyres by .25". I measured 225 tyres from two different manufacturers that differed by nearly an inch. Sure, most of them were pretty close, but there were certainly discrepancies way, way above .05".
if you are going to install a tyre that someone is not already running successfully on a similar model Spyder, I would advise strongly against going with one that you have not run a tape measure across to ensure it will fit, regardless of the "labelled" size. I ended up going with a Kuhmo KU22 205/55 r15 which does the job brilliantly. Why did I go with that particular tyre? Because someone was already running it on the same configuration (F3-L with belt guard) as me.
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Originally Posted by SPYD3R
per the USDOT, all tires with the same nomenclature are the same size: 225 on a KENDA is the same width as 225 on any other tire... same for the 50 and the R15.... sellect the tire you feel the most comfortable with, and go with that...
also, if you choose a 60 series tire, it's a bit taller and will correct the discrepancy in the speedo...
here, use this to compare different sizes of tires: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc
good luck, and ride safely...
Dan P
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Very wrong and incorrect information. The size numbers are NOMINAL size names. Not dimensions. Actual tire dimensions are published by most better tire companies but they are FAR from the same.
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Originally Posted by papanorm
Have hit the "center of tire" wear bars at under 6,000 miles and my local dealer offers only these 2 choices. I've not seen any feed back on the Arachnid and any updates will be appreciated. They won't Install a tire not purchased there. Of course only the middle of the tire is wearing out.
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Tell your dealer you want something better than crap chinese tires.
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I did pose that to my dealer-his response was we cannot afford the liability of putting a car tire on your bike. For goodness sake-it's not a two wheeler. From what I've read on the forum automobile tires are actually superior to the stock motorcycle wanna B Kenda tires. So the mystery is why BRP doesn't agree?
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