I'd recommend NOT doing that to a strangers bike. I'd even go as far as to suggest nobody touches someone elses bike. Plenty of unhinged people out there who might get a bit testy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorcycledave
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I'd recommend NOT doing that to a strangers bike. I'd even go as far as to suggest nobody touches someone elses bike. Plenty of unhinged people out there who might get a bit testy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorcycledave
And I'm one of them------ Don't touch my ryde!@!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MONK
when I was in the service the big deal was to reach over and flip your buddy's kill switch on the road. We were a fun bunch
All is good here, going for another short ride this weekend to Barkerville. A couple hundred clicks each way, nothing serious. We should be heading south this weekend to eventually meet at Norcal, but alas, we could not get across the boarder if the Rally was on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
Hopefully next year we can get back to some kind of normal, it would be great to see you again.
Have on your ryde.....
Ray
I’ll do this now! Thanks!
Was doing same well before my class & thankfully no problems.:ohyea::2thumbs: Honda,HD,Yamaha &:spyder2: well ingrained procedure now:2thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozarkryder
Same circumstances here, although my MSF instructor days were rather long ago now. I agree that "muscle memory" and developing a normal habit can go a long way when a sudden panic situation rears its ugly head. I wonder how I know? Appears to have worked - and more than once over the years - because I'm still here, or at least was the last time I checked!Quote:
Originally Posted by MNBK
Is there any specific benefit to using the Kill switch after turning off your Spyder? Or is it just there basically as an emergency stop button…..
Never mind, got my answer
At the insistence and support of the battery makers, motorcycle mfrs install kill switches to sell more batteries to those who use the kill switch and walk away w/o turning off the igniton. Best policy; Turn of the ignition and immediately remove the key.
Never use it, never will. Waste of space imho.
Another legal team accessary. I never use it.
I use mine all the time to turn off my Spyder. After I turn my key off, I flip it back on. But that's me.
If your throttle ever sticks you may change your mind. Been there, done that! And approaching a curve at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2
Back in the (early?) days of carburetored engines, where carbies were rudimentary, often either gravity fed or served by a fuel pump that was mechanically driven by the engine turning over (even if just coasting 'in gear') & carburetors could easily flood/overflow &/or fuel lines could rupture & spray fuel over a hot engine, having a Kill-Switch was a great idea that contributed significantly to motorbike & rider safety.... but as the technology, carburetors, & fuel delivery systems improved, that contribution waned and gradually disappeared, especially following the introduction of modern fuel injection systems! :lecturef_smilie:
Nowdays, once the ignition is cut there's no spark, no injector pulse, no fuel pump, no fuel flow, and all the (other?) electrical things that the kill switch was designed to cut instantly in the event of a failure or over-run in one of the other 'legs' of the ICE running cycle are being cut by the ignition anyway, so there's really no real need for an 'additional' switch to do exactly the same thing, but I believe they're still mandated... :rolleyes: - just like on/off switches & separate switches for fuel pumps are mandated for (some?) light/ultra-light aircraft.... they're a hangover from the days when these things were useful & even played a part in keeping the machinery safe &/or saving lives, so they are still included just to satisfy the legal mandate, even if they aren't quite so useful or life-saving anymore! :p
The best use of the "kill switch" is to flip it on a buddies bike when you stop to eat, gas up, etc. Then watch him go a bit crazy when the bike won't re-start. The only time I have ever used a kill switch myself is when I had a tipover of a regular motorcycle and it was the fastest way to shut off the engine since the ignition key was located on the side of the bike which was down on the ground.
Those switches were mandated around 1970±2. They were for emergency responders -- they standardized the way a motorcycle could be shut off in the case of an incident. From then on all bikes had a red switch on the right handlebar.
In the early days they just cut off the sparks. Many, many bike batteries were cranked into oblivion when it was accidentally flipped off. I tend to not use mandated 'features'.
It's a good adrenalin rush if you bump it passing or on the interstate!
Guess I'm just too set in my ways. Last thing flipped on before starter button. First thing flipped off when done. Hope its never needed but the muscle memory is there.
:coffee:...I have only used it for emergency reasons. I have heard that some people have had some issues.
As others have said, it has been around for years.... :)
Just 1 more failure point to troubleshoot IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Blue
I use it at the gas pump to keep the cluster powered so I can read the odo, reset the trip meters, and enter the miles into my fuel record while I'm pumping gas.
When I started riding there was no such thing and I have never bothered with it. Other than to mess with a buddy at a gas stop :roflblack:
Nothing like being stopped at a red light, taking a swig from the Lamonster drink holder mounted on the right handlebar, having the light turn green right away with a row of impatient cars behind you, and while hurrying to get going, accidentally hit the kill switch when putting your drink back to said drink holder.
Good times, good times ....
The "key" word is SWITCH.
This is a MECHANICAL device.
All MECHANICAL device have a limited life expectancy of a certain amount of "cycles".
Those cycles are designated in their design specs and AGE also play into that factor.
So it is not a matter IF but WHEN it will ultimately FAIL.
So you have a choice.
1. Not to use and pretty much never worry
2. Use it and EVENTUALLY find out.
In 56 years on the road, I have never used that switch except ONCE when the bike went down and kept running.
I have seen others that always use that switch. I'm still wondering if they ever got their bikes started or if they are still stranded!
AJ
Now you have me questioning myself....I’m now not 100% sure if my old ‘49 Royal Enfield had a switch or not.... i do know that it did not have a battery, so I’m thinking probably NO KILL SWITCH either. Damn memory lapses!Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasus1300
I do that also, to let the music keep playing, and also to watch the fuel gauge rise... it tells me when to watch carefully for the splashback to stop pumping. (I don't engage the auto-shutoff in the pump handle.)Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
As for the old battery-killing futile cranking, that doesn't apply to Spyders, since the starter won't even engage. Thanks to the computer technology!