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Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Roughly from the US 50 junctions to US 6 junctions. 89 goes through a lot of small towns, commercial areas, and farmsteads that offer very little interesting to look at. I-15 is surrounded by sagebrush desert and mountains.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
You're right, if you're just passing through. There are some interesting towns and side trips into the mountains along the way though, if you have the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Idaho.....Utah...... you’re both forgetting that “Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder”!
I find small towns and farmsteads to be quite interesting and make fine subjects for my passion of photography.
That's why I rather enjoy riding through desolate desert sagebrush! Strip malls don't strike me as particularly scenic! :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbadbrucie
On the other hand, when wife and I did a seven day tour on a narrow boat on the canals in the Midlands of England in 1989 traveling through the backsides of old factories, through the heart of villages, and through green landscapes was very enjoyable!
I need to find friends like you! I feel the exact same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdMat
I agree with that, mostly. My experience last year demonstrated there can be benefits of freeway riding vs. secondary roads. I needed to get back to Idaho from Iowa because my older brother was in bad shape, but I was not going to rush the trip. Riding on the freeway made it possible to cover the requisite miles in a day without the stress of additional hours it would have taken on secondary roads. That aspect went a long way to keeping my stress level in check. I was also more assured of getting a motel on short notice since the freeways are well populated with them. For a totally non-hurried and relaxing trip the secondary roads are best, but on the other hand freeways can also be relaxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdMat
Holy Cow we are kindred spirits. Exactly the same for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterKelly
I ride solo only when the weather is too chilly for my wife. Then she rides with me. All our bike trips are her and I. We have done several with 1, 2, or 3 other bikes. You have to make sure you are all on the same page before the trip begins, our 500 mile day to get somewhere may be torture for someone else in the group. Communication is key.
Large group rides are typically just charity runs. We will ride out with the masses, but quickly separate with our 1 or 2 close friends after the first stop. Safer that way, for us.
98% of the time its myself and my favorite passenger for over 40 years of 2 wheeled, now 3 wheeled riding. It offers the most flexibility to travel how we like and as someone mentioned having that second set of eyes as you get older is great. As for groups I only do this if I am asked to be a ride leader, or ride cleanup for rides like charity runs and local rides but this can be very stressful as you feel some what responsible for the group. You have no idea of group ride participants skill levels and in groups it just seems to bring out the stupide in some riders, causing very dangerous situations for the group. With my wife with me, being a RN we have attended to many "eventful" group rides, (why would you loan a bike to someone who just learned to ride two days ago, that was a bad one but a story for another time).
I've soloed across the US several times, camping along the way and cooking my dinner at the campsite. I derive a satisfaction from the ability to come and go as I please without compromising with others. It's almost a spiritual experience. I also often ride with one close friend, even though our riding styles are a little different. (He likes to go about 10 mph faster than I do.) Occasionally I'll ride with a group, but it's invariably for short (a few hours) rides. I like to relax and savor the scenery, the sounds, the smells. It's hard to describe the solo experience, but it's gratifying.
Bill McGrath
Back in the early seventies I did few group rides and learnt that they weren't for me; it seemed that someone always had to get stupid in the middle of the group and make a mess of things; and trying to get everybody to stay to gather was a pain. They try to keep it organized but there are too many different riding styles. I have not done a group ride since the early seventies and only did a few then.
A group ride to me is her on the back with me up front. I like to meet people at the stops or where we're staying, and talk about where we've been and are going. But no group riding!
When we lived in AK, we were members of a motorcycle group. I joined in 2001 and quit in about 2018. The club welcomed all makes and models and during the first 10 years or so we had about 50 bikes participating on our Thursday rides.
Because of the numbers, we had five different groups...usually 10 or less. They were grouped according to ability and speed. I was ride captain of the newbie group. All had to start there. The club had a couple close calls in the later years, but no accidents. We did give the "I Faw Down" award every year though.
The group changed leadership in the last year we were members. We did not like the new "politics" and safety issues went down hill. Since then, it has been mostly Linda and I riding together. We have had biker friends visit a time or two. We did day trips with them to show off the scenery.
In my two-wheeled days, I did two one-day group-rides. My next-door neighbor, an excellent rider and instructor, was the group leader. Most of the riders were on VERY loud two-cylinder V-twin bikes, of various makes. They were all very nice people. Drove me nuts. Their nick names and hand signals and strictly enforced precision and protocol and all the seriousness made me have to work hard to not break out laughing. Of course they wouldn't have heard me: there was no sound but their need-a-better-muffler bikes.
I have two guys I ride with. On two wheels, now three. They're 150 miles away, so it's usually a trip we're on, two or more days. The longest was eleven. Camping. We get along. Don't mind silence. Have similar enough taste in food, all of which makes things easy. Not prone to complaint when my always used and elderly bike(s) would break. Good times.
More than two total I'm not fond of, verified last year when one said "Could my son join us?" The son was mid thirties, a good rider like his old man, and a pleasant fellow. The whole dynamic changed. Part of it was father-son stuff; I was neither so was, get ready, (on my spyder and) something of a third wheel.
The other guy has grown kids and a five year old daughter whose feet don't yet reach foot rests, so doesn't ride with dad. He and I are going to ride the San Juan Islands out of Anacortes, WA in September. He's on a new to him Yamaha. I know it'll be a good time and a good ride. Camping is something we both enjoy, especially combined with riding.
The wife and I travel together on the spyder and that works well. She no longer wants to sleep on the ground or wander out of the tent to find a toilet at night in the rain. Not sure why she finds that troublesome... Never traveled with another rider with her on board. As others have said, a second pair of eyes adds a level of safety and increases the odds of noticing interesting things along the road. And when she's on board, the engine seems to have a built-in speed limiter, kicking in when there's a knock on my helmet or words in the Sena we use between us. Had the same speed limiter when driving the autobahn in Germany back in the 80's. Interesting. I'd guess some of you have that same built-in speed control.
Let me conclude my novel by saying riding alone is my first choice, every time. Riding with ONE other rider, that one from a group of two is OK. Those two live in the same town, but have never met. I suspect a ride with the three of us is in our future. we'll see. More than two bikes at a time? No thanks.
My story may change. I'm retired. My two friends are still working. I might meet someone here in central Oregon to ride with. Time will tell. One guy I just met here on the forum, ButterSmooth, had a collision with a rock and is no longer riding. He's 18 or so miles east of me. Oh well. He's now enjoying a Miata. Good choice for him!
Summary: Group ride? Not for me.
From some of our comments I see the makings of a group ride for those who hate riding in a group, preferring solo riding, solitude at day's end, no distractions etc.
The group of non-groupies could ride together 7-10 miles apart. Need help? Wait a bit and you're no longer solo (unless you're at the back of the line! No breakdowns for you!)
The Not A Group Group Ride?
Just running the numbers on your idea if you had say... 10 riders, send the 5 off together that like racing each other to the coffee shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Columbia
Give them 15 minutes head start. Space the rest out at 15-minute intervals.
That's an hour and a quarter.
Add the ride distance time of say 4 hours, that's 5 1/4 hours total.
Most of the group riders I've come across need coffee every 2 hours that adds 1/2 hour so 5 3/4 hours now.
One always forgets to fuel up so another 15 minutes there's 6 hours.
One generally has a weak bladder that's 6 1/4 hours.
One wants to adjust his belt that's 6 1/2 hours.
We're now half hour past another coffee that 6 3/4, plus Mr. weak bladder, 7 hours.
While we're riding past Harry's place, we have to drop off a ride schedule, so he turns up on the right day next time, 7 1/4 hours.
The inevitable breakdown recovery mission holdup 7 3/4 hours, 8 if you have an early coffee break, 8 1/4 hours for nappy man.
Refuel, 8 1/2 hours.
Police harassment one of the gang looks like Sonny Barger, 8 3/4 hours.
Meal-time, 9 3/4 hours.
Now it's dark someone's headlight doesn't work.............................................. .......
Ah, a day full of memories! :coffee:
Wife and I do mostly sool rides. She likes being on the back to direct, keep an eye out, amd take pics. She usually sets the route to her phone, or mine, and off we go. We have been on group rides from rallies. But have been mostly disappointed. The leader rides too fast, or not enough potty stops. :lecturef_smilie: Or worse people that haven't ridden on group rides. And worse yet are the ones who refuse to abide by group etiquette!!!! :cus: They don't pull over when the rider behind them is not there, and then your ride is toast because they are gone. Yes it happens. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:
We do this with the ROMEOS--a group riding organization that does not ride in a group, but meets weekly at a different restaurant for conversation. All come from different directions and some ride together if desired. I have been the "ride director" of the North Central Arkansas Group for over 10 years.
I rode with regular groups when I first moved here in 2004. but found it too dangerous for 30+ bikes on these curvy roads with all skill levels (and some none). Here is a link that shows locations, details and maps to the ride/meets every week that our garmin guru so kindly posts.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...2093886509&z=6
Big riding/driving events are fun once in a blue moon, especially if its for some kind of cause or charity.
But I prefer to go out by myself, or with 4-5 friends that I know personally.
In a big group of strangers all it takes is 1 or 2 idiots to do something stupid or attract the wrong kind of attention.
Plus you never know who is a thief scoping out your ride.
Shows/meets are different because you're just hanging around talking, and most people arrive & leave separately.
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Both my wife and I prefer to ryde alone or with one or two other :spyder2:'s. If we in a lager group I try to ( sometimes insist) ryding sweep.
Lew L
no more than 4 or 5 is my rule
Years ago riding with a Gold Wing group broke us of the desire to ride with a pack. One other possibly 2 good friends is enough, Alone 99% of the time and prefer it
For me, anything more than 2 motorcycles is TOO MANY! About 20 years ago, I went across the Great Smokey Mountains and up the Blue Ridge Parkway for about 300 miles, it was nothing I ever want to do again...LOL ... The ride was good, but too many people and bikes. I have had 2 or 3 different riders over the years that I really enjoyed riding with, but every one of them has passed in the last 40 years. It's an Old Age Thing.... LOL ....... I am in North-East Tn. and even now there are not many Spyder's around here. But maybe there will be soon.
Me and Julie ride separately, but together. We have had a similar experience to yours... first and last group ride, meet ups are great. By the way, we love Maggie Valley, WTT is awesome and Dale is one of a kind!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLICE
I'm both, depending on my mood.
Sometimes, when I'm on a group ride, I like taking "sweep" or "tail gunner" (the last rider). It makes me feel I'm a "lone rider" when I feel like spending time riding with the Battle Born Spyders (a local Spyder group based in Reno, NV).
But mostly, I do tend to ride solo ....