What are the performance gains of these different types of reprogramming for my 2015 RT-S 1330.
What are the performance gains of these different types of reprogramming for my 2015 RT-S 1330.
Never mind, I found the info I was looking for.
Well, how about sharing with us what you learned...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revalden
How about a link or some directions to your findings please. Waiting with baited breath. It's my understanding that a stock 1330motor will only open the throttle plates 85%. ECU flashes change that among other things. Pedal commanders only OPEN the throttle quicker. Not at all sure about Dyno Jet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Revalden
LewL
Lew, I think the Pedal Commander and Power Commander are 2 different beasts per Martin the Vlogger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNS8LwNMde0Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
Call Steve at Monster and ask. It's free. Tel: 1-(226) 909-2029
Isn't that for an ECU flash though?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dogs
Yes, that's the number in Canada for the ECU Flash stage 1 or 2. There's another number for their US location where I sent mine for a flash.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
Wick-It Performance 1-(318) 562-6961 in Shreveport, LA
You have to remove your ECU and send it to them. It's a week turn around time.
Duzz'n matta! ;) They'll still be able to tell you exactly what the differences between a Power Commander 5 and the Monster ECU Stage 1 &/or Stage 2 Upgrades will be, and give you an idea of the performance gains possible from each will be too!! :ohyea:Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
But at it's most basic, anything that doesn't require the ECU to be sent away & opened in order to appĺy the new tune info could possibly be over-written, and also isn't likely to be 'as comprehensive' of an upgrade.... :rolleyes:
In other words, if you want the best, you'll need to pay for it and get it done properly! :thumbup:
Yes, according to Martin each has its own ups and downs. Choose what you like. JMHO, I want the low end torque and the afterburners to come in when I hit the end of the wick (throttle).Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
I just realized we (I) have been reacting to a post from 2 years ago ... :banghead:Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
Whadda you mean 'WE' Pete?? :dontknow: . It was YOU that responded to a 2 year old post :banghead: - the rest of us just responded to what you put up :rolleyes: . Welll, maybe not Lew, but the rest of us anyway, ie. me'n 2dogs ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
:coffee:
Yes, I know that ....:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Aawen
MAX throttle body opening percentage ???
Earlier in this thread I said the stock 1330 ECU can only open the throttle(s) to about 85%. BUT, I wish someone who REALLY knows the Max. throttle would chime in.........
Lew L
:dontknow: Just try'n to hep'a y'a out. :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahPete
Someone must know??
Someone here must have a definitive answer....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
Give Monster a call and ask. If anyone knows they'll (should) know. Wick-et Performance 1 (318) 562-6961Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
Martin the Vlogger https://youtu.be/tNS8LwNMde0Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
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Well that was 30+minutes I'll never get back,. I did listen carefully and Martin may have answered many ?'s BUT not mine.
So, again:
Can a knowledgeable person tell us:
1. What percentage does the stock ECU open the 1330 motor throttle body (s) ???
2. Does the stage 1 ( or stage2 ) open the throttle body to 100% ???
Next message is to Wicket or Monster Fuel injection.
Lew L
I'm sorry. I thought he did talk about OEM throttle openings vs Pedal Commander.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
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Monster FI contacted. I'll call them if they can't find the time to answer my emai.
While you wait for the response from the truly knowledgeable, here's my understanding on these questions.... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lew L
1. I believe that even the stock Spyder ECU's WILL open the throttle 100%, but only for a short while when WOT is initially applied (maybe a tad more than 'just momentarily', but not too much more! :lecturef_smilie: ) and once the initial acceleration is induced, the ECU reduces that opening somewhat - can't tell you exactly when or what the exact percentage is, but beyond the 'momentarily' comment above, I think the throttle reverts to something like 90-95% open pdq - the story I've heard is that it's something to do with reducing the emissions that running at WOT for more than a second or so might emit if your engine doesn't completely burn the fuel/air charge! :shocked:
2. Dunno about Monster or Wick-it's version, altho I reckon it'd be 'fairly' similar (even if not quite as comprehensive :p ) but on my V-Twin motor the Rotax Racing ECU Upgrade certainly does go to 100% WOT and then holds that setting for a lot longer than stock - right out until the revs hit the (increased ;) ) red line & then longer! :ohyea: Nb: the increased red line is still somewhat less than that used by the V-Twin engine in some other applications; and my understanding is that the Upgraded tune is such that I'd hafta be sucking air at the same sort of altitude as Everest's Death Zone while ryding my Spyder to result in only a partial burn of the engine's fuel/air charge! And I don't get to do that too often here in Oz.... :rolleyes:
Be interested to hear what Monster &/or Wick-it come back with?!? :dontknow:
Over to you, Lew! :cheers:
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Thank you Peter,
I most certainly will post up information gleaned from Monster FI. I know my stage 1 with intake mods will walk away from stock or exhaust equipped RT's And--- it loves the alcohol free 91 obtain available here in So. Dekota.
Lew L
:popcorn:
Would the air box mods required by Monster have anything to do with stage 2 breathing more air because the throttle plates open all the way?