Road Trip to DEALERS in California (Disappointed)

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11-19-2016, 12:27 PM
ussoldier

Road Trip to DEALERS in California (Disappointed)

I decided to take a 2-day road trip to Northern California and southern part of the Central Valley. Here is my assessment.

I was planning to buy a Can-Am Spyder in cash. I was informed the best time to buy a motorcycle is in November and December during the cold seasons.

1. Elk Grove: I was informed by the dealer they are the ONLY dealership for BRP Platinum Certified in California. They do not price match from other states ONLY within California. I actually did my dealings with them, but the price is too expensive for the out-the-door price in August. Based off Yelp, the dealer was not willing to give up to a lower price, which is under $20,000. However, the service and parts department are great. I did communicate the dealer, based off my price match. I was informed that the 2016 F3-S model had to be at the other dealer. I could not provide my dealer information to other dealers (Not yet). Yet, they were not sure if I could get the BRP rate, which is $2000 off. My quote form did not have no manufacture discount or BRP discount. Plus, It would have been under $20,000. I am pretty sure the dealer would not want to go under $20,000 for the out-the-door price.

2. Livermore: Did not have that much inventory Can-am Spyder. They did have the old model RS and the RS touring.

3. Hayward: Huge inventory on the Can am Spyder. But, I was unable to establish a deal or communication.

4. Lancaster: Dealer could not do the Navy Federal Credit Union or Costco due to being cheaper. I got this information from cycletrader website as the lowest deal. Still it was over $20,000 after taxes with manufacturer rebates. I also notice they manipulate the money for sale. I have two quotes from different dealers. Compared with these two dealers, Lancaster manipulate the finance.

5. Bakersfield: There were only 4 Sport Touring and NO F3-S models. They will do the BRP discount after the MSRP befores taxes.

Be happy that you are not in California. The only Can-Am Spyder F3-S is BRP Premium certified is Elk Grove, CA for the entire state of California.

Note: The BRP Boss is the Dealer cost. The customers are unable to see this. The 2017 models get a 3-year warranty. Most dealers do not know about the Holiday Blitz which ends in January 6, 2017.

About me: I am currently in the military, and I have never rode a motorcycle. I chose the Can-Am Spyder for their stability. I worked in the hospitals, and I saw too many accidents with motorcycles injuries including death.

Based off the video in Long Beach, CA, they were promoting Can Am Spyder for Military Veterans and new motorcycle riders. I am a Military Veteran & newbie, but no discounts for me. I hope this helps.
11-19-2016, 02:01 PM
ARtraveler

An interesting run-down. Did you actually purchase a :ani29: or are you still on the quest? There are a few dealers that will give a great deal and ship one to you. Post if you want their information. Help is on the way. :thumbup:
11-19-2016, 02:37 PM
ARtraveler

Check this out from IMotorsports--one of the dealers I referred to above--

2015 F3 S with only 1713 miles. The snow started today, but we will deliver to your door nationwide.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...583941&thumb=1
11-19-2016, 02:44 PM
PapaHotel

Can't you buy one out of state and drive it home?
11-19-2016, 03:41 PM
k7xi

Buying out of Calif

Be careful here. Calif has some weird DMV laws about bringing used stuff into their state. Wondering why you weren't getting the military discount?
11-19-2016, 03:59 PM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by k7xi

Be careful here. Calif has some weird DMV laws about bringing used stuff into their state. Wondering why you weren't getting the military discount?

Honestly, I do not know. Yes, I found out California they are abide with the 50 emissions law (Don't know what that means) and other mumbo jumbo stuff. I also mentioned about the BRP Tag Event. Most of the dealers did not know about that except Elk Grove, CA. I was also told that if a dealer does not have the Can am Spyder than they would look for other dealers who who have the bike. If another dealer has one than they will ship it to the main dealer. The customer would have to pay the shipping from dealer to dealer.
11-19-2016, 04:01 PM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by akspyderman

Check this out from IMotorsports--one of the dealers I referred to above--

2015 F3 S with only 1713 miles. The snow started today, but we will deliver to your door nationwide.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...583941&thumb=1

Thanks I prefer to have it brand new rather than a use one. I alone will do the damages and the break in to my Can Am Spyder. ;)
11-19-2016, 04:48 PM
hypurone

Have you checked with these guys: http://www.funbike.com/shop/land/spyder/? I bought mine from them over the internet/phone for a great price. Granted it was a leftover new 2015 but check the link, they have some 2015's and 2016's still and they have the option to make an offer on a lot of them.... :thumbup:
11-19-2016, 05:51 PM
ARtraveler

Quote:

Originally Posted by ussoldier

Honestly, I do not know. Yes, I found out California they are abide with the 50 emissions law (Don't know what that means) and other mumbo jumbo stuff. I also mentioned about the BRP Tag Event. Most of the dealers did not know about that except Elk Grove, CA. I was also told that if a dealer does not have the Can am Spyder than they would look for other dealers who who have the bike. If another dealer has one than they will ship it to the main dealer. The customer would have to pay the shipping from dealer to dealer.

Shipping is negotiable. How bad to they want to sell to you? :thumbup: Remember they need you--you don't need them.
11-19-2016, 09:16 PM
TicketBait

ussoldier, try this dealership which is a Spyderlovers supporter. Looks like they have 3 F3's

http://www.bertsmegamall.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventory#page=xNewInventory& vt=motorcycle%20/%20scooter

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_0041.jpg

fly down from Fresno and ride back the 250 miles.;) They are the largest in So Cal.:riding:
11-19-2016, 10:04 PM
Motorcycledave

You missed some

You missed Lodi, they have them on the floor
and Modesto

Quote:

Originally Posted by ussoldier

I decided to take a 2-day road trip to Northern California and southern part of the Central Valley. Here is my assessment.

I was planning to buy a Can-Am Spyder in cash. I was informed the best time to buy a motorcycle is in November and December during the cold seasons.

1. Elk Grove: I was informed by the dealer they are the ONLY dealership for BRP Platinum Certified in California. They do not price match from other states ONLY within California. I actually did my dealings with them, but the price is too expensive for the out-the-door price in August. Based off Yelp, the dealer was not willing to give up to a lower price, which is under $20,000. However, the service and parts department are great. I did communicate the dealer, based off my price match. I was informed that the 2016 F3-S model had to be at the other dealer. I could not provide my dealer information to other dealers (Not yet). Yet, they were not sure if I could get the BRP rate, which is $2000 off. My quote form did not have no manufacture discount or BRP discount. Plus, It would have been under $20,000. I am pretty sure the dealer would not want to go under $20,000 for the out-the-door price.

2. Livermore: Did not have that much inventory Can-am Spyder. They did have the old model RS and the RS touring.

3. Hayward: Huge inventory on the Can am Spyder. But, I was unable to establish a deal or communication.

4. Lancaster: Dealer could not do the Navy Federal Credit Union or Costco due to being cheaper. I got this information from cycletrader website as the lowest deal. Still it was over $20,000 after taxes with manufacturer rebates. I also notice they manipulate the money for sale. I have two quotes from different dealers. Compared with these two dealers, Lancaster manipulate the finance.

5. Bakersfield: There were only 4 Sport Touring and NO F3-S models. They will do the BRP discount after the MSRP befores taxes.

Be happy that you are not in California. The only Can-Am Spyder F3-S is BRP Premium certified is Elk Grove, CA for the entire state of California.

Note: The BRP Boss is the Dealer cost. The customers are unable to see this. The 2017 models get a 3-year warranty. Most dealers do not know about the Holiday Blitz which ends in January 6, 2017.

About me: I am currently in the military, and I have never rode a motorcycle. I chose the Can-Am Spyder for their stability. I worked in the hospitals, and I saw too many accidents with motorcycles injuries including death.

Based off the video in Long Beach, CA, they were promoting Can Am Spyder for Military Veterans and new motorcycle riders. I am a Military Veteran & newbie, but no discounts for me. I hope this helps.
11-20-2016, 12:49 AM
SpyderAnn01

If you are currently in the military and your home of record is not California then you would license the Spyder in your home state and would not be subject to the CA emission rules. So you could buy from wherever you get the best deal.
11-20-2016, 12:52 AM
SpyderAnn01

They have spent a lot of time and money promoting Spyder's in California this year but I haven't heard that they have offered any special pricing. They would love for new riders and veterans to buy new Spyders but that doesn't equate to special pricing.
11-20-2016, 02:30 AM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by TicketBait

ussoldier, try this dealership which is a Spyderlovers supporter. Looks like they have 3 F3's

http://www.bertsmegamall.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventory#page=xNewInventory& vt=motorcycle%20/%20scooter

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_0041.jpg

fly down from Fresno and ride back the 250 miles.;) They are the largest in So Cal.:riding:

II heard bad reviews with this dealership. I was informed that Whittier, CA may have a better deal. There is a link if you search for "Reputable Dealers in Southern California."
11-20-2016, 01:37 PM
Pirate looks at --

Quote:

Originally Posted by ussoldier

Honestly, I do not know. Yes, I found out California they are abide with the 50 emissions law (Don't know what that means) and other mumbo jumbo stuff. I also mentioned about the BRP Tag Event. Most of the dealers did not know about that except Elk Grove, CA. I was also told that if a dealer does not have the Can am Spyder than they would look for other dealers who who have the bike. If another dealer has one than they will ship it to the main dealer. The customer would have to pay the shipping from dealer to dealer.

The dealer in Elk Grove is Elk Grove POWERSPORTS! They are the number 1 Spyder dealer in the Western US. They are the number 1 Can Am Watercraft dealer in the US. Remember they have to make money on your deal as well. We have purchased two units from them. They have dealt with us fairly on the price and they have a great service department. Forrest the service manager has taken great care of us as well even arranging for a loaner when we drop off one of the spyders for routine service. I believe the reason we have has zero issues with our motorcycles is the set up and service from this great team. Their master mechanic Larry is an expert on everything Spyder!

So you can look the wide world over for a better price.......and that could take a very long time sooner or later you have to just BUY ONE! BTW if you buy from EGPS you get a discount on all service and parts. I can recommend this company to anyone that wants a fair deal, excellent service, and a smile when you ryde in!:thumbup::firstplace:
11-20-2016, 01:45 PM
Pirate looks at --

BTW, my F3 was not on the floor in Elk Grove, they found it in Escondido and had it shipped to Elk Grove! I bought on Tuesday, and was Ryding the next Monday!:cheers:
11-20-2016, 02:34 PM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate looks at --

The dealer in Elk Grove is Elk Grove POWERSPORTS! They are the number 1 Spyder dealer in the Western US. They are the number 1 Can Am Watercraft dealer in the US. Remember they have to make money on your deal as well. We have purchased two units from them. They have dealt with us fairly on the price and they have a great service department. Forrest the service manager has taken great care of us as well even arranging for a loaner when we drop off one of the spyders for routine service. I believe the reason we have has zero issues with our motorcycles is the set up and service from this great team. Their master mechanic Larry is an expert on everything Spyder!

So you can look the wide world over for a better price.......and that could take a very long time sooner or later you have to just BUY ONE! BTW if you buy from EGPS you get a discount on all service and parts. I can recommend this company to anyone that wants a fair deal, excellent service, and a smile when you ryde in!:thumbup::firstplace:

Yes, you are right. They are the number one in Elk Grove POWERSPORTS, and they are the only with the Platinum Certificate in California. I would rather buy my parts and do my maintenance there. I am actually impressed about the loaner. Did not know that so thank you :)
12-16-2016, 02:33 PM
vinsanity666

Where's elkgrove? I live in Palm Springs and looking for a good dealership

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12-16-2016, 03:18 PM
vinsanity666

About California law regarding buying out of state and bringing it in...DMV requires that they visualize the frame number AND the engine number. DMV will not remove body panels which along with a mirror and flashlight, is required to see the engine number. The DMV will send you to another location run by chp which will ( for a fee) obtain the number. Unfortunately here in Palm Springs the wait is three months because they are only open one day a week. The bike came from Texas which has no such requirements. The DMV was more than happy to charge me the sales tax though.

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12-16-2016, 05:18 PM
MRH

Out of state purchases are a pain with CA registration, and they do need to see the engine number (or they should, I used a private company and the guy was nice enough to sign off without seeing it). It must be a 50 state model - and not all Spyders are.

You can't expect to get the very best price one dealer will give you from another dealer. The fact that one dealer may be willing to take a loss to clear a unit from their floor doesn't mean another dealer won't require a reasonable profit from the transaction. In all cases, it's good to know what discounts to ask for, and to remember that any individual salesperson probably sells a handful of Spyders a year and may not know all the promotions.
01-03-2017, 06:18 PM
philsteinhauser

Northern CA service experiences

Shortly after purchasing my 2016 RT I did some research to obtain suggestions on good service in northern CA. What I found was limited. One post gave a good recommendation to Elk Grove Power Sports.

Another post gave a poor recommendation to Hayward Powersports. The complaint about Hayward was that the owner took the Spyder in for a service appointment only to be told the Spyder mechanic was not there. He would have to reschedule.

Based on the above I made an appointment with Elk Grove and was very satisfied with the service and the friendly atmosphere. There were several Spyders being serviced that day and the mechanic who worked on mine came out and gave me a very professional summary of what was done.

When it came time for my next service I decided to give Hayward a chance because it is half the distance from home (1 hour vs 2 hours for Elk Grove) and anybody can get one bad review.

I took my RT in for my scheduled appointment today and was not very happy when the service dept. told me I would need to come back because the Spyder mechanic called in. No apology, no compensation offered. Just "Please make another appointment".

I don't think so. Elk Grove, here I come from now on.
01-03-2017, 10:59 PM
Stumpy6Guns

Nice F3!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate looks at --

BTW, my F3 was not on the floor in Elk Grove, they found it in Escondido and had it shipped to Elk Grove! I bought on Tuesday, and was Ryding the next Monday!:cheers:

I think I almost bought that very F3! I bought my RT in Escondido on 12/17, and I was sitting on the F3 and zooming down some really cool roads in my mind, but that shiny Pearl White RT Limited next to it was whispering my name in rather sultry tones. I'm so easy...:opps: :f_spider:
01-03-2017, 11:30 PM
BLUEKNIGHT911

HUH

Quote:

Originally Posted by ussoldier

Well, I already purchased my Can Am Spyder F3-S in Clawson Fresno. However, the dealer (Jonathon Steele) was very pushy. I also asked the Service Department if they were BRP Certified. They told me go check online. The only department was the parts. Unfortunately, I bought my Warranty there. And, I am able to get it back; therefore, I am stuck with a 6 year Warranty called Power Rev. The deal was good, but not the best. If your planning to buy a Spyder wait tell the Demo rides, and then bargain your price. That is what I did. Elk Grove will surely be good at the Sales, Parts, and Service Department. I did check Lancaster, Ca but was unable to price match my F3-S...yet, they did say they can price match anything...lol

Sorry but a lot of what you are saying above is contradicting to what you have just said ....very confusing :banghead::banghead::banghead: ............. Mike :thumbup:
01-03-2017, 11:57 PM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911

Sorry but a lot of what you are saying above is contradicting to what you have just said ....very confusing :banghead::banghead::banghead: ............. Mike :thumbup:

Sorry about that. Let me re-edit it.
01-04-2017, 12:07 AM
ussoldier

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinsanity666

Where's elkgrove? I live in Palm Springs and looking for a good dealership

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Elk Grove, CA is 30 minutes down South of Sacramento, and 1 hour North from Modesto, CA. I already purchased my Can Am Spyder F3-S in Clawson, Fresno. The dealer (Jonathon Steele) was very pushy, and he was just trying to make a sale (It took me a month to negotiate price). I actually had the lowest bargain for the trike I was looking for. I tried many places Lodi, Elk Grove, Lancaster, Bakersfield, San Diego, and so forth. When I looked at Cycletrader online, I noticed the lowest deal for the Triple Black was in Lancaster, CA. However, they were unable to price match the bike that the quote was given from Fresno, CA. I didn't want to go out State, because California had some weird laws. So, I decided to stay within California. Honestly, I am happy that I have my trike. And, i definitely want to thank all the members from the Spyder Forum their help. But, I am still learning about the Can Am Spyder, protective gear, and being visible. Granted, I should have thought this through. Oh well, I got my trike...now, I need to see how i can be more visible. Since, black is not the color to go with :( One more thing, if you are planning to get a trike than wait till the demo rides in any dealer that sells the Can Am Spyder. After you ride it, there will be a Sales Representative waiting for you. Let them know that you want this trike and low ball the heck out of them. That is how I did mine. :2thumbs: