so glad you are OK...report this to www.nhtsa.gov scary
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so glad you are OK...report this to www.nhtsa.gov scary
I'm glad you're safe and I too will echo the report it to NHTSA thing.
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/Vehicl...nt/index.xhtml
I will also opine that owner modifications done to solve a heat problem that BRP was unable to solve and are properly documented will not cause any real problem. IF BRP chooses to be nasty they can raise the issue, but I don't believe in the end it would amount to anything more than be nasty, if they say anything about it at all.
In California, they, being either the insurance company or BRP, would be on the hook for fair market value and not replacement cost, unless you have that as a rider on your insurance policy. If BRP offers to replace it, then that would be a bonus and they are not obligated to do that. It might work better to go through your insurance company and let them slug it out with BRP for reimbursement. Just a thought.
I rode the 2013 RT last summer in a ride that was in ambient temperature of 35 degrees Celcius (95 fahrenheit)for about 250 miles without issue.
The temperatures up here do go much higher than 70F. Have ridden the ST and my GS in similar conditions, with no issues.
So if ambient temps are excessive is that the machines fault? Some HD owners in Southern US also have heat issues and I will hazard to speculate that other motorcycle manufacturers have similar issues.
Don't bother to hazard we could care less about anything but our $30k Spyder. 250mi. is a trip to the store for most of us it takes time for things to melt and includes a lot of stop and go and sitting in traffic riding. You can defend all you want but they admitted a problem when they issued a recall and told people at events a fix (in addition to recal) was coming soon. That was several months ago and not a peep has been heard.:banghead:
Was it a recall?
Or a Technical Service Bulletin?
Thanks! :thumbup:
Since I had no dog in that fight; I honestly wasn't paying attention as to exactly how it went down...
Why not sell the bike; take the money, and buy something that you can enjoy?
Letting it sit in storage; just seems like a good waste of cash... :shocked:
Dat Guy,
First of all, it is so fantastic that you were able to notice the problem when you did and got away safely. If anything good can be said about your experience THAT would be it.
Please DO keep us updated, on both the outcome of your experience with BRP, and if you can discover exactly why the fire occurred. I'm very concerned because, just last week I had my dealer wrap both exhaust headers and I added a lot of reflective heat tape around the top of the engine compartment (and underside of panels) to reflect heat away from the seat openings. It seems to have done some good, but obviously now I'm hoping that these "fixes" didn't create worse problems.
BRP seems to have resolved the issue on 2014 models, but they owe it to the rest of us to resolve it as well, regardless of the expense. Please do take seriously other's suggestion here that you file a report with the NHTSA. That's the only way that the problem will be satisfactorily corrected for everyone.
You have every right to be furious, and I hope they make things right for you. And again, SO glad you suffered no personal injury in this extremely unfortunate event.
Last post to you I am not going to keep :bdh: just for you to learn what you should already know. If you had done the reading last year about this issue you would have a clue about what I am talking about . They fact is another 2013 has gone up in flames and it is not like an airplane to figure out what happened all the evidence is pretty much melted or burned. Yes you are defending BRP and not the owners of the bikes. Other years had some fires too but it is most prevalent on the 2013 RT & ST. Go take a long ride as I sit home waiting for the temps to go below 100deg because I simply will not chance doing myself or the bike any damage at this point. We have 60+ days a year above 90deg do you?
WHAT RECALL?? I haven't been notified about it, and it sure does not come up in BUDS.
UPDATE: Updated information on this in post #112.
Glad you were not injured!! Great presence of mind to get is safely stopped and away from it!! Will look forward to hearing the final resolution of this for you. :popcorn::sour:
I seem to recall a study about how much folks ride in the different States...
California wasn't the highest... :shocked:
But you guys DID rack up some miles! :D
You could probably Google it, and get the correct numbers...
Total waste of time and money. You can't get to the source of the fire when it is under the tupperware.
He was a nice guy then he was gone for a while came back a different guy.
Yes, he is very serious.
I put 13,000 miles in 13 weeks on a 2013 RTS and most of those miles were in the desert southwest. If you have been around this site for more a year you know what the outcome was for me. I have nearly identical pictures as DatGuy. Also, those people that seem to like him probably haven't had the opportunity to talk to him lately.
I don't mean to beat you up on this but it takes more than 250 miles to melt through parts on the Spyder. When the recall was issued for the master cylinder (which included wrapping the evap canister and the parking brake cable) there were a lot of 13s that had melting parts and each one of them was one hot ride away from burning up.
Thank God he wasn't hurt and that he didn't start a wildfire.
At least, BRP adress some issues with an update of the ECM. May be it's not perfect, but they did something. If NHTSA or TRANSPORT CANADA find this situation hazardous and dangerous, they will have BRP to make a recall for a safety issue (like the gas cap). But they didn't...???
I am so glad there were no injuries or wildfires because of this latest 2013 Spyder fire.
The heat issues seem to be a problem with all years (except 2014) and most models. I had a 2009 originally and now have a 2012. I traded to the 2012 thinking the heat issue wouldn't be as bad as the 2009. I have pics of red marks on my right leg from riding the 2009. I got the 2012 in January and riding it during the winter months was fine, but now that the temps are up, I am having the same heat issues. I can't go riding past 8am.
The service department at my dealer is horrendous. I took the 2012 in 2 weeks after I bought it because it wouldn't down shift itself. They had it for 4 weeks, said they tore everything apart, said they never found a problem and blamed my riding skills. I'm afraid to take it in to complain about heat issues. It won't do any good anyway.
Maybe all of us who have heat issues should file a complaint with the NHTSA? BRP might then be forced to do something about it??
My biggest concern is after a ride as well....I let it sit in the driveway. I have an attached garage and house fire could result in more danger than just the ting burning at the side of the road.