Sounds about right to me ...

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05-01-2018, 01:01 PM
UtahPete

Sounds about right to me ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...fficer-n870326
05-01-2018, 01:09 PM
ARtraveler

:bbq::bbq::bbq::bbq: Hope this one does not get to hot. All the "hot button" issues are in place.
05-01-2018, 01:33 PM
Bob Denman

I don't know if suing that miserable little chicken-**** is the way to send him the proper message...

But it's a decent start!
05-01-2018, 01:36 PM
ARtraveler

A serious question. Can they legally sue a "public servant," and I use the term very loosely? He was considered that until he resigned. :dontknow::dontknow::dontknow::dontknow:
05-01-2018, 01:38 PM
Bob Denman

:D I guess that we'll be finding out... :dontknow:
05-01-2018, 01:44 PM
UtahPete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Denman

I don't know if suing that miserable little chicken-**** is the way to send him the proper message...But it's a decent start!

I think he already got the message. Question is whether those advocating a 'good guy with a gun is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun' and arming of teachers as a solution to school shootings are going to get it. Probably not. I just wish they were suing Wayne LaPierre for his reckless and irresponsible rhetoric. nojoke
05-01-2018, 01:53 PM
vided

[QUOTE=UtahPete;1356674]I think he already got the message. Question is whether those advocating a 'good guy with a gun is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun' and arming of teachers as a solution to school shootings are going to get it. Probably not. I just wish they were suing Wayne LaPierre for his reckless and irresponsible rhetoric. nojoke[/QUOTE

you just can't resist can you nojoke
05-01-2018, 01:56 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by vided

[/QUOTE you just can't resist can you nojoke

Nope nojoke
05-01-2018, 02:02 PM
vided

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05-01-2018, 02:08 PM
Bob Denman

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:agree:

But you have to remember: Mr. LaPierre is exercising his First Amendment rights... just like you do!
05-01-2018, 02:27 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by Bob Denman

But you have to remember: Mr. LaPierre is exercising his First Amendment rights... just like you do!

There are limits to 1st amendment protections. Just like there are limits to 2nd amendment rights. nojoke
05-01-2018, 04:22 PM
Orange Spyder Man

metal detectors apparently work at airports... why wouldn't they work at schools ??
05-01-2018, 04:40 PM
ofdave

I see a parent who is devastated by the loss of his child.
I see a man who did not do his job and will face the consequences of that.
I do not see what the hell Wayne LaPierre has to do with the topic of the post.
Other than to enflame and, yet once again, let the ego of that commentator be placed in the limelight.
05-01-2018, 04:59 PM
Holly

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Originally Posted by Orange Spyder Man

metal detectors apparently work at airports... why wouldn't they work at schools ??

It doesn't fit the narrative....................... :dontknow:
05-01-2018, 05:00 PM
MEP

Quote:

Originally Posted by ofdave

I see a parent who is devastated by the loss of his child.
I see a man who did not do his job and will face the consequences of that.
I do not see what the hell Wayne LaPierre has to do with the topic of the post.
Other than to enflame and, yet once again, let the ego of that commentator be placed in the limelight.

Thank you.
05-01-2018, 05:03 PM
Bob Denman

:agree:
05-01-2018, 05:11 PM
Pirate looks at --

[QUOTE=vided;1356678]

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Originally Posted by UtahPete

I think he already got the message. Question is whether those advocating a 'good guy with a gun is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun' and arming of teachers as a solution to school shootings are going to get it. Probably not. I just wish they were suing Wayne LaPierre for his reckless and irresponsible rhetoric. nojoke[/QUOTE

you just can't resist can you nojoke

And neither can you!:roflblack::roflblack::(:roflblack:
05-01-2018, 07:00 PM
johnsimion

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Originally Posted by UtahPete

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...fficer-n870326

It's just something to grab headlines and maybe settlement value, because the case has no merit for numerous reasons: (a) Law enforcement always has discretion as how they act, (b) the child was not shot by the deputy but by a crazy person with a really powerful weapon, and (c) they can't prove that intervention by the deputy would have made any difference. The deputy's defense will be that he acted properly because he thought the shooting was outside (as he claimed from the beginning), he will say that he couldn't stop a guy with an AR-15 with nothing but a Glock, and that by the time he got backup, the officers were instructed to form a perimeter. We don't know if he could have stopped the shooter or not. You can speculate that he could have stopped the guy, but speculation isn't PROOF. You can speculate just as easily that if he'd run into the building, he would have just been shot dead and become another victim.

Worst of all would be the result if by some miracle the father won the case. First, the deputy won't be the one paying. It will be the taxpayers taking it in the shorts once again. Second, you won't be able to pay people enough to take a job as a school security officer. How much will you have to pay somebody to take a job where they're expected to run into a building by themselves with nothing but a Glock and confront some wacko with an AR-15? We don't ask our soldiers to go on suicide missions all by themselves, why would we expect a security guard to do so?
05-01-2018, 07:06 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by johnsimion

It's just something to grab headlines and maybe settlement value, because the case has no merit for numerous reasons: (a) Law enforcement always has discretion as how they act, (b) the child was not shot by the deputy but by a crazy person with a really powerful weapon, and (c) they can't prove that intervention by the deputy would have made any difference. The deputy's defense will be that he acted properly because he thought the shooting was outside (as he claimed from the beginning), he will say that he couldn't stop a guy with an AR-15 with nothing but a Glock, and that by the time he got backup, the officers were instructed to form a perimeter. We don't know if he could have stopped the shooter or not. You can speculate that he could have stopped the guy, but speculation isn't PROOF. You can speculate just as easily that if he'd run into the building, he would have just been shot dead and become another victim.

Worst of all would be the result if by some miracle the father won the case. First, the deputy won't be the one paying. It will be the taxpayers taking it in the shorts once again. Second, you won't be able to pay people enough to take a job as a school security officer. How much will you have to pay somebody to take a job where they're expected to run into a building by themselves with nothing but a Glock and confront some wacko with an AR-15? We don't ask our soldiers to go on suicide missions all by themselves, why would we expect a security guard to do so?

I agree. Which sort of undermines the NRA's argument, doesn't it?
05-01-2018, 07:08 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by vided

That could be your avatar! Spewing bile.
05-01-2018, 07:41 PM
vided

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Originally Posted by UtahPete

That could be your avatar! Spewing bile.

All the uglyness and bile seems to always come from you, which is to be expected.

enjoy your blessed day
05-01-2018, 08:02 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by vided

All the uglyness and bile seems to always come from you, which is to be expected. enjoy your blessed day

Ugliness, WylieC, not uglyness. I can see why you resort to graphics to express yourself.
05-01-2018, 08:06 PM
vided

Got ya, I knew you couldn't resist being a spelling nazi :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
05-01-2018, 08:11 PM
UtahPete

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Originally Posted by vided

Got ya, I knew you couldn't resist being a spelling nazi :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

:clap::clap: