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02-11-2021, 11:33 AM
JimboRTS

How Do I tell A 2021+ / 2021 1/2 RT Limited

I’m going to order a 2021 RTL. How will I know if I received a 2021 1/2 ?

Jim
02-11-2021, 01:45 PM
MONK

You can't by looking at it. The ONLY differences are an updated front sprocket and more insulation/sound deadening behind/inside the fairing. No other changes between early and late 2021s.
02-11-2021, 02:27 PM
K80Shooter

If you order one require it to be a newly built unit and not a older unit. When it arrives verify by looking at the vin plate.
02-11-2021, 04:28 PM
ollicat

Also, the mirror wobble is supposed to be fixed. I read that anything manufactured after January 1 will be the 21.5. So just check the date of manufacture.
02-11-2021, 04:47 PM
agrimm01

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Originally Posted by K80Shooter

If you order one require it to be a newly built unit and not a older unit. When it arrives verify by looking at the vin plate.

How can you check the build date by the VIN?
02-11-2021, 05:27 PM
eddieshep999

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Originally Posted by agrimm01

How can you check the build date by the VIN?

You may find a sticker on the rear swinging arm This should the build date
On my F3 2018 the build date is shown as 02/18
02-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Peter Aawen

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Originally Posted by agrimm01

How can you check the build date by the VIN?

The Build Date should be printed on the VIN Plate, so all you need to do is read it. :thumbup
02-11-2021, 05:41 PM
agrimm01

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Originally Posted by Peter Aawen

The Build Date should be printed on the VIN Plate, so all you need to do is read it. :thumbup

DUH!!! I thought he meant by decoding the VIN.
02-11-2021, 06:04 PM
K80Shooter

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Originally Posted by agrimm01

How can you check the build date by the VIN?

As stated above, the build date is/should be on the the sticker with the vin number
02-11-2021, 06:17 PM
JimboRTS

Well now if we just new the exact date the changes where made in production for sure from Can-Am. That would be great I called a dealer and they said they would have to check on it. Not sure I’ll ever hear from them. Does anyone have a reliable source at a dealer?

Jim
02-11-2021, 08:21 PM
MONK

I'm sorry but why the huge concern with an early compared to a late? As I mentioned in Post #2, the ONLY differences are the updated front pulley and the add'l sound deadening under the fairing. The front pulley was only updated to eliminated the tiny whine SOME hear due to the new (2020+) fairing design. Not everyone hears it and for those that do (including me), it's not really a big deal. BuRP only added the add'l sound deadening due to the whine of the front pulley. If you got an early (or even a 2020 holdover), you can swap out pulleys. $110 for the pulley and a couple hours labor from the dealer/shop.

Again, a late is not a "better" bike then an early. You might even get a deal on an early if it's been sitting on the dealers show floor for a few months. I've got an early and have no issues with it. The front pulley whine is minimal and is generally only heard between ~45-55mph.

With all that said, it's your money so do what you feel you need to do. I just don't get all the hub bub around a late. The only reason I would ever insist on a late is if I had to have the new S2S trim in which case, that's only a late. Hope you enjoy your new ride, whatever you get.
02-11-2021, 09:39 PM
Knizar

I drove a blue demo 2020 RTL which had a rather bad whine to it, "(I'm hard of hearing)". told the dealer, he said take this new floor model for a spin. (Marsala Red). No whine on that one, bought it last July, over 5000 miles now, no problems. hehe,, think it's only the blue ones that whine ,, hehe What ya think MONK ? lol
02-11-2021, 11:43 PM
EdMat

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Originally Posted by MONK

I'm sorry but why the huge concern with an early compared to a late? A

Cause you pays your money and you want your money's worth.
02-12-2021, 06:56 AM
Schreckftw

I could be wrong but I thought I heard that the early 2021s only came in the red color. If that is correct I would assume if you are looking at a different color then its a new build. Something to look into anyway.
02-12-2021, 08:20 AM
MONK

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Originally Posted by Knizar

I drove a blue demo 2020 RTL which had a rather bad whine to it, "(I'm hard of hearing)". told the dealer, he said take this new floor model for a spin. (Marsala Red). No whine on that one, bought it last July, over 5000 miles now, no problems. hehe,, think it's only the blue ones that whine ,, hehe What ya think MONK ? lol

You may be right. My blue 2021 early has a slight whine but honestly, either it's gone away or I've gotten used to it. I don't hear it anymore.

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Originally Posted by EdMat

Cause you pays your money and you want your money's worth.

So, by your thinking, everyone who bought either a 2020 RT or an early 2021 got ripped off? I think not but you're entitled to your opinion.

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Originally Posted by Schreckftw

I could be wrong but I thought I heard that the early 2021s only came in the red color. If that is correct I would assume if you are looking at a different color then its a new build. Something to look into anyway.

Untrue, sir. Same colors for all current gen RTs (other than the baby puke green on the new S2S trim).
02-12-2021, 08:36 AM
Valkrocket

[QUOTE=MONK;1561333]You may be right. My blue 2021 early has a slight whine but honestly, either it's gone away or I've gotten used to it. I don't hear it anymore.

Could be you're going deaf. :roflblack:
02-12-2021, 09:56 AM
blacklightning

From what I have seen in the ones at my local dealership, I would be more concerned about the rusting bolts at the handle bars and other parts that were downgraded starting in 2020. I know no one is leaving their bike out for hours at a time each day. But when I went by my dealership this weekend and saw the rust, I was a bit turned off.
02-12-2021, 11:03 AM
JimboRTS

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Originally Posted by MONK

I'm sorry but why the huge concern with an early compared to a late? As I mentioned in Post #2, the ONLY differences are the updated front pulley and the add'l sound deadening under the fairing. The front pulley was only updated to eliminated the tiny whine SOME hear due to the new (2020+) fairing design. Not everyone hears it and for those that do (including me), it's not really a big deal. BuRP only added the add'l sound deadening due to the whine of the front pulley. If you got an early (or even a 2020 holdover), you can swap out pulleys. $110 for the pulley and a couple hours labor from the dealer/shop.

Again, a late is not a "better" bike then an early. You might even get a deal on an early if it's been sitting on the dealers show floor for a few months. I've got an early and have no issues with it. The front pulley whine is minimal and is generally only heard between ~45-55mph.

With all that said, it's your money so do what you feel you need to do. I just don't get all the hub bub around a late. The only reason I would ever insist on a late is if I had to have the new S2S trim in which case, that's only a late. Hope you enjoy your new ride, whatever you get.

Ok so what is the S2S trim?

Jim
02-12-2021, 11:05 AM
ARtraveler

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Originally Posted by JimboRTS

Ok so what is the S2S trim?

Jim

S2S is our abbreviation word for the new Sea to Sky version of the RTL. Special color, and a few S2S only options. You will pay a premium for this model...but most like it.
02-12-2021, 12:18 PM
MONK

[QUOTE=Valkrocket;1561335]

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Originally Posted by MONK

You may be right. My blue 2021 early has a slight whine but honestly, either it's gone away or I've gotten used to it. I don't hear it anymore.

Could be you're going deaf. :roflblack:

I COULD BE WHAT? SPEAK UP, SONNY!
02-12-2021, 01:17 PM
EdMat

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Originally Posted by MONK

So, by your thinking, everyone who bought either a 2020 RT or an early 2021 got ripped off? I think not but you're entitled to your opinion.

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Not at all. I'm saying if you are paying your own hard earned money you should have a right to know what you are getting.
02-12-2021, 02:59 PM
Peteoz

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Originally Posted by MONK

I'm sorry but why the huge concern with an early compared to a late? As I mentioned in Post #2, the ONLY differences are the updated front pulley and the add'l sound deadening under the fairing. The front pulley was only updated to eliminated the tiny whine SOME hear due to the new (2020+) fairing design.

Hey MONK,
I thought the new front bearing was a different design (hence the new colour), to eliminate the stripping (the dreaded red dust)... or did I just make that up in my own mind......which is eminently possible these days:2thumbs:

Pete
02-12-2021, 03:14 PM
MONK

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Originally Posted by Peteoz

Hey MONK,
I thought the new front bearing was a different design (hence the new colour), to eliminate the stripping (the dreaded red dust)... or did I just make that up in my own mind......which is eminently possible these days:2thumbs:

Pete

I have no issue making up my own stuff but I'm 99% sure the only advantage to the new pulley is to reduce the whine. It's my understanding (and someone who knows more about this can feel free to school me if I'm wrong) that the holes have been redesigned so the air travels through them different.