Statistics

[Many brands]

I wonder - We all know motorcycles are Dangerous. (So are Cars) But I wonder if the statistics for the Can-am's (per capta) are better or worse.
Their more visable - Than a bike, etc. etc. Would be nice to know.

[Many brands]

I wonder. Are most bike accidents due to "driving stupid" ? Or are they dut to the "stupid" car drivers - not seeing them ?
Plus, I want to do both. Have fun, and live longer.

[dlby]

Dunno for sure
But have seen & heard of Spyder accidents that survived what two wheels would not have.
But as we all know its not what you call safe.
Just make it as safe as you can.
Be alert

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[ruralgirl]

Considering the close calls I've had just this summer, if I do have an accident, it'll most likely NOT be caused by me. Despite my being on a bright red Spyder with headlights always on, despite my never touching a freeway, despite my sticking to rural roads, never driving at night and rarely going faster than 50, today's drivers with their damned cell phones and whatever else their pea brains are focused on are prone to turning in front of me, right at me, drifting into my lane from the opposite direction, passing me at 80+ on a gravel road, and just plain acting like I'm invisible. :gaah:

[JimVonBaden]

Statistics for MCs are available. Something like 40-45% of MC accidents are left turners cutting off the bike. 35-40% are single vehicle accidents, and 3% are rear ended. The rest are a variety of misc accidents. (from memory)

I suspect the Spyder fares a bit better due to more mature riders, larger size and better able to be seen.

[trikermutha]

throw the stats out the window.. People are distracted and don't pay attention. You have to be clairvoyant now a days .

I am pretty lite up for lights and drivers still try and kill me.

Come drive the Chicago 500 someday.

#4 post I agree

[Bob Denman]

Crap happens, to riders that don't ride defensively... :dontknow:

[GA_Spyderman]

We need to ride as if we are invisible.


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[ruralgirl]

Crap happens, to riders that don't ride defensively... :dontknow:


So, Bob, you've walked us thru the emu that you slayed, his porno pic, his pre-carved pic, carved pic, and fully plated pic. You gonna show us how many holes in your belt that you had to let out today? :D:D:D

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Statistics for MCs are available. Something like 40-45% of MC accidents are left turners cutting off the bike. 35-40% are single vehicle accidents, and 3% are rear ended. The rest are a variety of misc accidents. (from memory)

I suspect the Spyder fares a bit better due to more mature riders, larger size and better able to be seen.
Statistics compiled by Idaho show a different picture. A study of fatal accidents shows that 67% of fatalities are caused by rider error. Only 21% were caused by cars violating the m/c riders' right of way. What's really telling though, is rider training results in about an 89% reduction in fatalities. 40% of fatalities were riders over 40, and 75% were on cruisers or touring bikes. The last two groups include a big share of Spyder riders so from that aspect fatalities while riding a Spyder may not be much lower than for 2 wheelers.

The data in the links is from 2009 to 2013. Auto accidents caused by distracted driving are going up, so the percentage of fatalities caused by cars violating riders' right of way may very well be creeping up also.

http://idahostar.org/_blog/News_Room/post/preventing/

http://idahostar.org/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=553967&A=SearchResult&SearchID=12124942&ObjectID=553967&ObjectType=55

(http://idahostar.org/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=553967&A=SearchResult&SearchID=12124942&ObjectID=553967&ObjectType=55)The study did not break out the statistics by numbers of riders in the various groups so it's possible the higher percentage for older riders reflects somewhat a greater number of older riders rather than differences in riding ability.

[JimVonBaden]

Statistics compiled by Idaho show a different picture. A study of fatal accidents shows that 67% of fatalities are caused by rider error. Only 21% were caused by cars violating the m/c riders' right of way. What's really telling though, is rider training results in about an 89% reduction in fatalities. 40% of fatalities were riders over 40, and 75% were on cruisers or touring bikes. The last two groups include a big share of Spyder riders so from that aspect fatalities while riding a Spyder may not be much lower than for 2 wheelers.

The data in the links is from 2009 to 2013. Auto accidents caused by distracted driving are going up, so the percentage of fatalities caused by cars violating riders' right of way may very well be creeping up also.

http://idahostar.org/_blog/News_Room/post/preventing/

http://idahostar.org/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=553967&A=SearchResult&SearchID=12124942&ObjectID=553967&ObjectType=55

(http://idahostar.org/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=553967&A=SearchResult&SearchID=12124942&ObjectID=553967&ObjectType=55)The study did not break out the statistics by numbers of riders in the various groups so it's possible the higher percentage for older riders reflects somewhat a greater number of older riders rather than differences in riding ability.
Yeah, my numbers come from the Hurt report, which is, admittedly, dated. More recent national data seems to agree with it, but local and state data will vary wildly depending on urban density.

[meljr]

throw the stats out the window.. People are distracted and don't pay attention. You have to be clairvoyant now a days .

I am pretty lite up for lights and drivers still try and kill me.

Come drive the Chicago 500 someday.

#4 post I agree
Ain't that the truth. My eyes get tired from looking ahead, behind, Left, right, hoping some idiot on their cell phone notices I have stopped in front of them. It's a jungle out there. 🤕

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[Bob Denman]

So, Bob, you've walked us thru the emu that you slayed, his porno pic, his pre-carved pic, carved pic, and fully plated pic. You gonna show us how many holes in your belt that you had to let out today? :D:D:D

:D We're not quite done yet... :D
(His "Porno pic"? :shocked: This is going to have an effect on my anility to enjoy next year's Thanksgiving dinner...)
I'm not wearing any belt today... or pants! :roflblack:

[jaherbst]

Statistics for MCs are available. Something like 40-45% of MC accidents are left turners cutting off the bike. 35-40% are single vehicle accidents, and 3% are rear ended. The rest are a variety of misc accidents. (from memory)

I suspect the Spyder fares a bit better due to more mature riders, larger size and better able to be seen.

By larger size are you reffering to the rider or the vehicle? :joke:

Jack

[tmcquain]

When I got my first bike 30 years ago, the guy that taught me to ride told me that every car out there was trying to kill me.....keep that in mind. He said if you can not see the drivers eyes, he can't see you....I have always held to those rules. It is kind of funny, we drove the truck to our daughters for Thanksgiving, and my wife says that I drive the Spyder so much better than the truck.

[ruralgirl]

:D We're not quite done yet... :D
(His "Porno pic"? :shocked: This is going to have an effect on my anility to enjoy next year's Thanksgiving dinner...)
I'm not wearing any belt today... or pants! :roflblack:

Your current pic sure looks like you're done, unless you guys also eat the bones! The porno pic was of him fully plucked, in his birthday suit.

[ruralgirl]

When I got my first bike 30 years ago, the guy that taught me to ride told me that every car out there was trying to kill me ....

That's essentially what my parents drilled into me when they taught me how to drive a car half a century ago. They said to always assume that every driver on the road except me was an idiot. It was tongue-in-cheek back then ... little did they know how accurate they would eventually be.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I wonder - We all know motorcycles are Dangerous. (So are Cars) But I wonder if the statistics for the Can-am's (per capta) are better or worse.
Their more visable - Than a bike, etc. etc. Would be nice to know.
Here's the problem .... the only really accurate info ( like what you want to know ) are known by insurance companies .... They don't share :gaah:this !!!! .... Mtc's are rarely broken down into 2 wheel vs. 3 wheel !!! ..... But if you attempt to insure say a Hayabusa vs a Spyder RT ( with all things being equal ).....I'm pretty sure you will get a better rate on the Spyder .... Why ?, I'm guessing the Ins. Co. is figuring insuring the Spyder is LESS likely to cost them a bunch of MONEY $$$$$$ ............jmho...... Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

That's essentially what my parents drilled into me when they taught me how to drive a car half a century ago. They said to always assume that every driver on the road except me was an idiot. It was tongue-in-cheek back then ... little did they know how accurate they would eventually be.
:shocked: Does this mean that you think I'm an idiot?
Oh... I see their point! :opps:

We're not even close, to done yet with that carcass... :D

BACK TO THE SUBJECT BEING DISCUSSED:
The only way to avoid all risk:
Don't ride
Don't drive
Don't climb ladders
Don't walk up or down the stairs
Don't go out into the sunlight
Don't eat fatty foods
Exercise regularly: but not too much!
Avoid stress

:shocked: Bull**** to this! :gaah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiuIMwOq3s

[ARtraveler]

I have not seen separate statistics regarding :spyder2: vs. two wheel safety. As Mike said, the insurance companies have the information, but don't seem to be sharing it.

Statistics are just a bunch of numbers showing past history. Does not guarantee that your particular machine will be one of the lucky ones or not. Interesting to look at and ponder, but I would not buy an item based on a statistic--good or bad.

From a practical point of view, I would say the :spyder:is a bit more safe than two wheels. It has many safety features that are not on every motorcycle. An advantage, but not a guarantee--IMO.

[SuperDave_GPS]

Here in Ontario Canada where I just bought my 2016 RT Limited last month (Oct 2016), all I know is that my insurance company specifically said that they DO insure 3-wheeled motorcycles if the 2 wheels are in the front, but DO NOT insure 3-wheeled motorcycles if the 2 wheels are at the back.
They must know some kind of interesting statistic about Spyders.

[Bob Denman]

There's absolutely NO doubt, that the reverse trike configuration handles a whole lot better... nojoke

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

There's absolutely NO doubt, that the reverse trike configuration handles a whole lot better... nojoke
That was the clear implication by the owner of Motor Trikes in his seminar, "Two in the front, or two in the rear?" that I attended at Wing Ding. When I asked if there was objective data or experience that showed the two in front to be better he said he could tell me, but it would cost me a $100,000!

[Buckeye Bleau]

[QUOTE=Bob Denman;1204397]:shocked: Does this mean that you think I'm an idiot?
Oh... I see their point! :opps:

We're not even close, to done yet with that carcass... :D

BACK TO THE SUBJECT BEING DISCUSSED:
The only way to avoid all risk:
Don't ride
Don't drive
Don't climb ladders
Don't walk up or down the stairs
Don't go out into the sunlight
Don't eat fatty foods
Exercise regularly: but not too much!
Avoid stress

:shocked: Bull**** to this! :gaah:

Oh and don't forget that while in your home, most accidents occur in the bathroom, don't go there! Use an outhouse, there are fewer accidents there,

Joe

[ruralgirl]

When I was considering switching from 2 wheels to 3, I wondered about the comparisons of the pair being up front versus behind. This very informative article clinched it for me.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-advantages-to-having-two-wheels-at-the-front-instead-of-the-back-on-a-three-wheeled-vehicle

[Bob Denman]

:agree: There's no doubt that the five-foot wide front-end creates a presence on the road... :thumbup:

[Peter Aawen]

.... every car out there was trying to kill me.....keep that in mind. He said if you can not see the drivers eyes, he can't see you......

And even if you can see the drivers eyes, they still might not be 'seeing' you or even be aware that you are there!! :shocked:

But they definitely are good Rules to Ride & Stay Alive by!! :thumbup:

[missouriboy]

Oh and don't forget that while in your home, most accidents occur in the bathroom, don't go there! Use an outhouse, there are fewer accidents there,

JoeI lived in my last house for 44 years, but when I read that most accidents occur withing 25 miles of home, I sold that sucker and moved far, far away!

That was a bit over 5 years ago, and so far, so good. :thumbup:

[JimVonBaden]

I lived in my last house for 44 years, but when I read that most accidents occur withing 25 miles of home, I sold that sucker and moved far, far away!

That was a bit over 5 years ago, and so far, so good. :thumbup:
:roflblack:

[ARtraveler]

Statistics roulette can be good. Let us know how it worked for you. So far, so good. :roflblack::roflblack:

[dlby]

Psalm 91 4 us

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[vinsanity666]

Surviivibility seems like it would be greater on a spyder, but you still gotta be protected with the right gear.


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