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revks777
07-29-2016, 04:05 PM
So the end of June I took my 2012 Limited to a nearby dealer for the 6000 mile service. I know that it involves more than just changing the oil but after a four and a half hour wait and $380.00 I decided never again.

I took a 4200 mile trip with my siblings, their spouses and two other couples. During the trip I checked the oil at the first gas stop each day and wound up adding oil three different times about 1/4 a quart each time to bring it to the full level with the motor hot.
All this said I like to change my oil every 5000 or after adding 1 quart of oil which ever comes first; so I bought filters and oil to do it myself.
I was surprised that it only took me an hour on the floor of my garage to do a complete oil change. That was even following the directions from the owners manual step by step. No short cuts.
Total cost was around $48. which included an extra quart of full synthetic oil. CARQUEST brand full synthetic oil which meets the specs in the owners manual, except I went with a 5w-30 instead of the impossible to find 5w-40.

If I only had a lift to make it that much easier to do I think I could get it done in under 40 minutes. No more overpriced oil changes at the dealer.

jcthorne
07-29-2016, 05:13 PM
Unfortunately, Car Quest full synthetic 5W30 does NOT meet the requirements for a SE5 998. Your clutch is going to die with that oil in there. Its not even a rated motorcycle oil for wet clutch use AND it meets API SM requirements with your owners manual specifically warns against. You really need to do the change again and get that oil out of there. Yes, its that bad.

billybovine
07-29-2016, 08:24 PM
I have to agree. You need to get that oil out of there as soon as possible.

Highwayman2013
07-29-2016, 08:28 PM
Yes, get that oil out you will fry the clutch. Get a 10w40 like Amsoil Metric Motorcycle oil or the BRP stuff.

BLUEKNIGHT911
07-29-2016, 08:50 PM
Do not have a STROKE about this mis-take your clutch is NOT going to FRY..... However you should get something like Rotella T-6 ....or Valvoline 4 stroke 10/40 --- both are FULL SYN and great oils for your 998 motor ......Either Oil is available at Walmart fairly in-expensively ........ Stay calm , but if you do your own maintenance ( I do ) you must be careful about what you use and be sure to document your purchases.........Mike :thumbup:

Chupaca
07-29-2016, 10:43 PM
It will not happen that fast but do get a better oil. I use the XPS from online which is a kit with all you need and you still save a bunch on labor...:thumbup:

jcthorne
07-30-2016, 07:00 AM
Do not have a STROKE about this mis-take your clutch is NOT going to FRY..... However you should get something like Rotella T-6 ....or Valvoline 4 stroke 10/40 --- both are FULL SYN and great oils for your 998 motor ......Either Oil is available at Walmart fairly in-expensively ........ Stay calm , but if you do your own maintenance ( I do ) you must be careful about what you use and be sure to document your purchases.........Mike :thumbup:


Mike, I have seen a clutch start slipping in less than 500 miles on the wrong oil. Once it starts slipping the clutch plates burn quickly and are GONE. Car motor oil without a JASO rating for wet clutch use has all the wrong friction properties for a clutch. The SE trans with the centrifugal clutch is especially prone. The SM is a bit more forgiving.

BLUEKNIGHT911
07-30-2016, 10:33 AM
Mike, I have seen a clutch start slipping in less than 500 miles on the wrong oil. Once it starts slipping the clutch plates burn quickly and are GONE. Car motor oil without a JASO rating for wet clutch use has all the wrong friction properties for a clutch. The SE trans with the centrifugal clutch is especially prone. The SM is a bit more forgiving.
JC - I agree His Oil choice was not good and I said so !!!!! .... But He is a NEWBIE and if He has a STROKE and can't ride anymore what good has been done ???? ....( remember I've been SEVERLY CHASTISED for being a FEAR MONGER about DESS !!!!!! )........ Yes the wrong OIL can do what you said ...... but WET clutches have also withstood 20,000 miles on an SM oil ...... He did what He did and that can't be changed .... hopefully He has returned to read the follow-up answers !!!! ......some DON'T ........ Un-fortunately .............. Mike :thumbup:

jcthorne
07-30-2016, 04:28 PM
JC - I agree His Oil choice was not good and I said so !!!!! .... But He is a NEWBIE and if He has a STROKE and can't ride anymore what good has been done ???? ....( remember I've been SEVERLY CHASTISED for being a FEAR MONGER about DESS !!!!!! )........ Yes the wrong OIL can do what you said ...... but WET clutches have also withstood 20,000 miles on an SM oil ...... He did what He did and that can't be changed .... hopefully He has returned to read the follow-up answers !!!! ......some DON'T ........ Un-fortunately .............. Mike :thumbup:


Got it. Guess I misunderstood your intent. I think we pretty much agree. Its so hard to get across intent or emotion with just words and no facial expression or tone. I know I was one of the guys that got on you pretty hard in the past. I have really tried to turn a leaf and read with the good intention that I KNOW you have.