Carrying extra fuel?

[TravelingSpyder]

I know this is a taboo subject, but there are areas of this country where you can't find fuel as often as the Spyder needs it. How are you dealing with this

[smokster]

I know this is a taboo subject, but there are areas of this country where you can't find fuel as often as the Spyder needs it. How are you dealing with this
I bought a gallon gas can and will bring it with me.
Store it in the side cortech bag, oposite of exhaust of course.

[John in PA]

I carry two 33 oz aluminum MSR fuel cans strapped together with duct tape on long trips. These are designed for backpackers to carry fuel. They don't leak liquid or vapors. Fuel keeps well because there's no air exposure. Together they give you an emergency half gallon of fuel incase of a misclculation.
Totally safe!!!

For frequent long trips consider adding a TourTank. Adds two or more gallons capacity and can be plumbed into existing fuel lines. Need a rear rack to mount it.

[bjt]

We've had someone do this and post about it. Not the prettiest mod but he was able to travel a long ways between fuel stops. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6466

[John in PA]

The TourTank I was thinking of is a two gallon, available with nice looking black nylon cover, looks like an average size small duffel behind the seat or rack. Because I'd move mine from bike to bike, and rarely actually have the time for long trips anyway, I'd probably use it for reserve fuel, and pipe it into the fill neck during a leg-stretching break if a fuel stop wasn't imminent.

[TravelingSpyder]

The TourTank I was thinking of is a two gallon, available with nice looking black nylon cover, looks like an average size small duffel behind the seat or rack. Because I'd move mine from bike to bike, and rarely actually have the time for long trips anyway, I'd probably use it for reserve fuel, and pipe it into the fill neck during a leg-stretching break if a fuel stop wasn't imminent.


These tanks look really cool and sturdy. Looks like they could be put on as "luggage" on the back of our BMW or Spyder. How do you pipe it in? A long neck funnel? Thanks for the information.

Kathy

[John in PA]

If you're installing it higher than the fill neck on the bike, a simple hose to the filler is fine (with a valve, of course), keep it coiled and stowed when not in use. That's the way I'd use mine. The tanks are made to be plumbed into a regular fuel line with a quick disconnect. There are some plumbing extras needed on fuel injected bikes since the fuel lines are pressurized on FI machines. I believe the website details it.

[Stuart49]

Not the prettiest, huh!

I've had aux fuel cells on my last 3 machines - 2 BMWs and a Triumph Sprint ST. The BMW installs both required electric fuel pumps for the transfer but the install on the Triumph was high enough to enable gravity transer. In all 3 cases I plumbed into the tank 'balance' hose, or FI return hose.

The setup on the Spyder is the simplest! I'm using a 3 gal molded cell, from Summit Racing, so it is 'rated,' The tank sits on a steel tubing rack which can be removed in about 1 minute. My Pelican travel trunk sits forward of the tank. Below the tank is a simple 1/4" ball valve and a line which tucks away under the seat. Not wanting to take the fuel tank out and start making holes in it, I simply 'catheterized' the fuel cap with a short hose and 90 degree brass fitting. Takes a few seconds longer to unscrew it (while holding the fitting still) but it works perfectly!

I typically fill both tanks, and after about 120 miles I know there is room in the main tank for 3 gallons. I reach back and flip the valve and just watch the fuel gauge return to FULL. This takes about 3 minutes. Range is now 260 - 280 miles.

Stuart

[bjt]

Not the prettiest, huh!
...
Stuart

:opps: Sorry bro. No offense meant. I just file that mod under the function over looks category.

[sleepman]

I gotta admit after seeing the tour tank website that I'm now seriously considering this as my next mod.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc293/sleepman54/tri11.jpg

[Stuart49]

I had that same Tour Tank on my Triumph, nicely spun aluminum, weighs NOTHING when empty. And the included steel bands make for very easy base mounting. Good choice.

[NancysToy]

Needs Mooneyes and a winged cap. Aren't they supposed to be mounted in front of the grill shell? Oh, that's Fuel Altereds I'm thinking of.
-Scotty http://forum.thestompbox.net/images/smilies/1a_snow.gif

[retread]

I'm looking at a small camping trailer with an auxillary tank on it. Quick disconnect and electric pump to move gas between tanks, trying to figure out the connection to Spyder's tank, possibly an extension to the gas filler, set up so the stock cap still works. Any ideas?

john

[Stuart49]

I still have the stock cap, keep it in the trunk. The aftermarket cap has been gutted, and this is how I use the aux cell - fills right thru this cap.

[bone crusher]

I'll just refill the tank...would rather carry around other items than gasoline...plus, you should be getting up and moving around every couple hours anyway...no static posture is too good for too long...

[Putt-Putt]

I had that same Tour Tank on my Triumph, nicely spun aluminum, weighs NOTHING when empty. And the included steel bands make for very easy base mounting. Good choice.


This one looks good. Something I have to consider. About how much do they cost; and where do you get them?

[dryheat]

I'll just refill the tank...would rather carry around other items than gasoline...plus, you should be getting up and moving around every couple hours anyway...no static posture is too good for too long...
Ideally, I'd get off the Spyder every couple hours also... but here in the West, it's not unusual to have stretches of 50-100 miles between gas stations... and if one of those you planned on stopping at is closed... well, you get the idea. :cus: Happened to me crossing New Mexico and it wsn't fun. Also it can be a bit of an irritation for riding buddies when you have to stop every 100-120 miles or so, and they're cruising along on a GS getting 45mpg and an 8 gallon tank.
I will be looking at something like this real soon! :thumbup:

[Spyderjuice]

This one looks good. Something I have to consider. About how much do they coast; and where do you get them?

http://www.tourtank.com/tourtanks.html (http://www.tourtank.com/tourtanks.html)

Juice

[dltang]

No pun intended in my title. Well, Brian and I have been thinking about what to do for an emergency fuel source should it be needed. Economics prevented many really great ideas but I think we came up with a good one none the less. Here is how we plan on taking 3 spare gallons of fuel for out trip. I know 3 gallons isn't a lot but as I mentioned this is for emergency use not for our own personal filling station.

3 gallon tank
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/Extra%20photos%20for%20upload/Zi6_0268.jpg
Filler siphon hose
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/Extra%20photos%20for%20upload/Zi6_0270.jpg
Tank fits nicely in the cooler on the front of the trailer
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/Extra%20photos%20for%20upload/Zi6_0271.jpg
Filler nozzle nestled in on top
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/Extra%20photos%20for%20upload/Zi6_0272.jpg

And yes the cooler does close with no problem.

[Lamonster]

I'm carrying two gal. but I have room for drinks too. :doorag: That will get me another 60 miles anyway.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=21&pictureid=2780

[dltang]

Believe it or not but if I had to I could put two or 4 bottles of water in there as well. We figured we could always throw a small cooler in the trailer if there is any room left over and put some drinks in there.

[docdoru]

Two 3.1 gallons bags:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/docdoru/DSC00470.jpg?t=1244165792

[NancysToy]

Don't drink from the wrong container! :joke: I like the use of the boat tank and hose fittings. Good thinking! About the most protected position you could get for carrying the tank, too.
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

[bone crusher]

I'm carrying two gal. but I have room for drinks too. :doorag: That will get me another 60 miles anyway.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=21&pictureid=2780

The fumes will go great with the gatorade...no toxic effect, of course! :D

[M2Wild]

I'm looking at a small camping trailer with an auxillary tank on it. Quick disconnect and electric pump to move gas between tanks, trying to figure out the connection to Spyder's tank, possibly an extension to the gas filler, set up so the stock cap still works. Any ideas?

john
Electric pump to move gasoline? :yikes: You better think twice about that.

[effgjamis]

Electric pump to move gasoline? :yikes: You better think twice about that.

Would you care to explain?

[retread]

Electric pump to move gasoline? :yikes: You better think twice about that.
Most cars have electric fuel pumps, the Spyder has an electric fuel pump; a low pressure automotive rated electric pump with a connection to the Spyder's tank would set it up so I could transfer fuel from the auxillary tank without stopping.

john

[SpyderGirl]

The Piggybacker trailer we are going to get has a tray mounted on the front where we will be taking out 2 1/2 gallon gas container with us along with a cooler. Should work out good.

[aubierules]

I'm carrying two gal. but I have room for drinks too. :doorag: That will get me another 60 miles anyway.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=21&pictureid=2780
I BET THE BOTTLES TASTE LIKE GAS:barf:

[aubierules]

Electric pump to move gasoline? :yikes: You better think twice about that.
whats wrong with that??? the fuel pump is electric. i had a sidecar where we built an external tank mounted under it....used an small electric pump ...worked great

[Lamonster]

I BET THE BOTTLES TASTE LIKE GAS:barf:

Didn't notice it last year. :dontknow:

[Dudley]

Best and safest extra gasoline transporter for Spyder or motorcycles in USA....AAA with motorcycle coverage! You may run out, but you will never be left stranded.

[Putt-Putt]

Maybe he was just being funny. (Fire)

[bjt]

Best and safest extra gasoline transporter for Spyder or motorcycles in USA....AAA with motorcycle coverage! You may run out, but you will never be left stranded.


I don't know if I would consider AAA the best or the safest in every instance. What if you run out in the middle of the desert, mid day, 110 temps and AAA doesn't show up for 5 hours? :sour:

They are definitely a good backup plan but I wouldn't count on them for my first line of defense.

[Dudley]

I don't know if I would consider AAA the best or the safest in every instance. What if you run out in the middle of the desert, mid day, 110 temps and AAA doesn't show up for 5 hours? :sour:

They are definitely a good backup plan but I wouldn't count on them for my first line of defense.

My first line of defense is to anticipate where I am going and plan to have enough gas in the tank to get me there. I have been driving in the desert for over 20 years and have yet to run out of gas. Planning ahead seems to have worked for me.

[bjt]

My first line of defense is to anticipate where I am going and plan to have enough gas in the tank to get me there. I have been driving in the desert for over 20 years and have yet to run out of gas. Planning ahead seems to have worked for me.


:agree:

[captainryder]

Just seen this thread.... question.

dtang: what does 3 gallons by 7 lbs/ gallon do to your tongue weight on your trailer?

Of course planning is everything, but this summer when I travel to Yellowstone, there will be days when I take back roads... ( non-interstate) and worry about gas availability.... Good thing spyder likes 87 octane, but my riding friends are H.D.'s and need that 91 octane..... Probably, because I will have the trailer, I will just put 91 octane in it for all of us to share.

[captainryder]

Here's an idea :D

What really needs to be done is BRP stage emergency fuelling depots along the whole route to and from their annual Spyder Owners Events.

( I really do hope that BRP makes these rally's an annual event )

They could be just simple 55 gallon drums of fuel strategically located in some of the most remote places. :2thumbs:

And our Spyder Owners KEY would be the only device that could access this reserve :thumbup:

[dltang]

Just seen this thread.... question.

dtang: what does 3 gallons by 7 lbs/ gallon do to your tongue weight on your trailer?

Of course planning is everything, but this summer when I travel to Yellowstone, there will be days when I take back roads... ( non-interstate) and worry about gas availability.... Good thing spyder likes 87 octane, but my riding friends are H.D.'s and need that 91 octane..... Probably, because I will have the trailer, I will just put 91 octane in it for all of us to share.

I am not sure but I was figuring closer to 5 lbs per gallon and I also decided it can't weigh more than ice and a 12 pack of pop or water.

[NancysToy]

I am not sure but I was figuring closer to 5 lbs per gallon and I also decided it can't weigh more than ice and a 12 pack of pop or water.
Gas does weigh about 7 pounds per gallon. Water weighs 8.34.
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

[bjt]

Just seen this thread.... question.

dtang: what does 3 gallons by 7 lbs/ gallon do to your tongue weight on your trailer?

Of course planning is everything, but this summer when I travel to Yellowstone, there will be days when I take back roads... ( non-interstate) and worry about gas availability.... Good thing spyder likes 87 octane, but my riding friends are H.D.'s and need that 91 octane..... Probably, because I will have the trailer, I will just put 91 octane in it for all of us to share.

We just have to try and distribute the items packed in the trailer so a little more of the weight is behind the trailer tires. That'll offset the additional weight of the gas.

[irish2themax]

Gas does weigh about 7 pounds per gallon. Water weighs 8.34.
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

:agree:

[irish2themax]

About how much do they coast

Depends on whether you're coasting downhill or on a flat ;)

[Putt-Putt]

Depends on whether you're coasting downhill or on a flat ;)

Typo corrected.:ohyea: You must of just had a talk with God.:roflblack:

[effgjamis]

Finally I got a pic of my extra fuel.

[bone crusher]

Finally I got a pic of my extra fuel.

Eff,

You live in Florida...there's a gas station on every corner...including in the middle of the Everglades...

Why the tank? You'd be better off with a refrigerated cooler with water for those hot days down there!

Or, with beer for when you get to your destination and take a long needed break! :ohyea:

[effgjamis]

Hey Bone Crusher...

You may be right about the Fl Travel, and I have a Camel Bak, plus I can put at least two pony kegs in the trailer, plus ice. BUT::::

I am heading north to AR, OK, then to CA.. don't know if they have GASSSS up there anymore.. It has been awhile since I was in that part of the country..

[dltang]

Hey Bone Crusher...

You may be right about the Fl Travel, and I have a Camel Bak, plus I can put at least two pony kegs in the trailer, plus ice. BUT::::

I am heading north to AR, OK, then to CA.. don't know if they have GASSSS up there anymore.. It has been awhile since I was in that part of the country..

Well, it looks like a few of us will be carrying extra fuel on the trip out west. Let's pray we don't actually need it. I have been mapping out gas stops kind of and there are a couple of places where we may be cutting it close, but I do believe we will be okay. I know every program can not have every gas station on it. I work third shift tonight, so I may be working on it some more. I like to be prepared for these kind of long hauls.

[effgjamis]

I am planning on gas stops every 150 miles plus or minus abit.
That will be about a 2.5 hr ride , just a 60MPH average

[Roaddog2]

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[dltang]

I am planning on gas stops every 150 miles plus or minus abit.
That will be about a 2.5 hr ride , just a 60MPH average

60 MPH who are you riding with?:roflblack::roflblack: I know you said average. But an FYI and it makes me happy, the speed limit in OK is 75, in TX it is 80 during the day and 65 at night on the Interstate, in NM it is 75 and in AZ it is 75, so I just don't see a lot of 60 mph happening. Can you keep up?:2thumbs:

[bone crusher]

60 MPH who are you riding with?:roflblack::roflblack: I know you said average. But an FYI and it makes me happy, the speed limit in OK is 75, in TX it is 80 during the day and 65 at night on the Interstate, in NM it is 75 and in AZ it is 75, so I just don't see a lot of 60 mph happening. Can you keep up?:2thumbs:

That's the spirit! 80 mph during the day in Texas? That's my kinda state!

[docdoru]

60 MPH who are you riding with?

Be aware dltang: effgjamis measure the speed per cylynder...:lecturef_smilie:

[effgjamis]

60 MPH who are you riding with?:roflblack::roflblack: I know you said average. But an FYI and it makes me happy, the speed limit in OK is 75, in TX it is 80 during the day and 65 at night on the Interstate, in NM it is 75 and in AZ it is 75, so I just don't see a lot of 60 mph happening. Can you keep up?:2thumbs:

Just ask Docdoru? :chat: and besides,, that 60 average would take into consideration of gas/:ohyea:/stops and :chill: :dontknow:.

[bjt]

Just ask Docdoru? :chat: and besides,, that 60 average would take into consideration of gas/:ohyea:/stops and :chill: :dontknow:.

dltang, sounds like we (or just me) may be the ones who should be worried about keeping up... :helpsmilie:




:D

[NancysToy]

dltang, sounds like we (or just me) may be the ones who should be worried about keeping up... :helpsmilie:


:D
Always worry about those guys who have 12,000 miles on their Spyder, but only 200 hours!
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

[dltang]

dltang, sounds like we (or just me) may be the ones who should be worried about keeping up... :helpsmilie:




:D

Yup, I was thinking that very thing. effgjamis, I apologize, it sounds like you are the one that may leave me behind. When I saw 60 mph I just imagined, http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Animals/turtle-e90.gifs-l-o-w. I do like to drive fast and if I am being careful I still try to stay about 5-8 miles per hour over the posted speed limit. The last thing I want on this trip is a ticket.

[Dudley]

Speaking of speeding tickets. I don't know how other state troopers are, but California CHP is pretty sticky when it comes to speed limits. Interstate in CA is 70mph unless otherwise posted for populated areas. Some interstate sections have speed cameras through populated areas. Just a cautionary note for all who are traveling to LA.

[effgjamis]

Yup, I was thinking that very thing. effgjamis, I apologize, it sounds like you are the one that may leave me behind. When I saw 60 mph I just imagined, http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Animals/turtle-e90.gifs-l-o-w. I do like to drive fast and if I am being careful I still try to stay about 5-8 miles per hour over the posted speed limit. The last thing I want on this trip is a ticket.


No apology neccessary... I sometimes strech the fact a bit... It is going to be a blast... I am very excited about the trip.

[Aussie spyder]

Hi
I always carry extra fuel in a aproved plastic container . hold 5 ltr (just over 1 us gallon) and put it in the trunk,has a funnel suplyed with it.

Henk

[docdoru]

Always worry about those guys who have 12,000 miles on their Spyder, but only 200 hours!
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

:shocked: 47.27...

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/docdoru/DSC00533.jpg?t=1245107119http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/docdoru/DSC00532.jpg?t=1245107171

[NancysToy]

:shocked: 47.27...

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We've already have heard you're a speed demon! LOL There was really no need to prove it, or is this an attempt to show your remarkable restraint? :joke:
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

[effgjamis]

We've already have heard you're a speed demon! LOL There was really no need to prove it, or is this an attempt to show your remarkable restraint? :joke:
-Scotty http://www.pmdawnonline.com/forum/images/smilies/velo.gif

Scotty.. if you noticed that he is showing HOW hot he is...:joke:

[docdoru]

Scotty.. if you noticed that he is showing hot he is...:joke:

That's Hot! (http://www.entertonement.com/clips/brcvbdnthd--That's-HotParis-Hilton-Ringtones-The-Simple-Life-Popular-?fl_link=) :joke:

[effgjamis]

That's Hot! (http://www.entertonement.com/clips/brcvbdnthd--That's-HotParis-Hilton-Ringtones-The-Simple-Life-Popular-?fl_link=) :joke:

:hun:I sure hope you are not trying to get us to compare you to HER...
If you think so...... wrong :yikes: wrong :gaah: wrong.....:roflblack: