Keeping Accountability on the Way To Spyderfest

[sypderrobinson134]

So, this won't seem like a spyder themed post at first but bear with me.

About three years ago I bought a brand new spyder, the first real motorcycle ride that I've ever been able to take and I've never looked back. I was roughly 22. At the time I was probably around 300-310 pounds. I was big (as I have been most of my life) but I could manage. This year, as we approach our first trip to spyderfest (Something I've wanted to do since it was in my backyard in Cuba) I realized that as I stepped on the scale I was over 360. Now at 6'3 I carry my weight fairly well but the fact remains that with that much weight, and couple it with the fact that my wife is also a little bigger, we realized that riding the spyder isn't quite as comfortable as it used to be and one major factor I feel is our size.

at that point I'd said enough was enough. I decided that since I had some time I was going to take a chance and try and get into a better shape before Spyderfest. Since we're looking at about 8 weeks from now. My gaol is simple I want to drop back under 300 pounds by the time we reach springfield. So wth that said, we started a diet I've dropped about 10 pounds on my way and joined a gym earlier this week. So, in closing, hopefully when I get to meet so many of you wonderful people for the first time I'll be the big guy, whose a little smaller then I was to start.

And yes, Riding and This rally, were two of the biggest causes to me doing this in case anyone does ask lol.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

First I commend you on this endeavor :clap: :clap: :clap: and am hoping you can get it down to something that is Healthy for you........It is very stressful so take it slow........If you have an owners manual you really need to take a look at the LOAD capacity of your Spyder......if you don't you could get yourself into a heap of trouble......This is meant only to help you....................I wish you and the wife all the BEST.....Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

:congrats: on the choice that you've made... :clap:
So with nothing but admiration in my heart; I say...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLfmEZYdtrY&feature=player_detailpage


:joke::joke::joke::joke:

[PrairieSpyder]

:congrats: on your decision and good luck to you and your wife!

[latony007]

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us know your progress!

[Mo Lee]

Congrats and best of luck! Trust me as a first time attendee at Spyderfest it will be worth your effort.:clap:

[murphybrown]

See you at Spyderfest

[Kwalsh]

yesterday i decided i was a little larger than i have been in a while and also decided to drop a few pounds, its amazing how 260# can creep up on you and then all the sudden slap you in the face, keep up the good work !!!!!

[jaherbst]

Weight is more of a problem than most people think. (diabetes, heart, sleep apnea, etc.) I think we order to much or listened to our Mothers tell us to clean our plates before we leave the table. And then there is comfort food. We are the most overweight Nation in the World. I don't have all the answers but commend you for trying.

Diets never worked for me but portions (no bigger than your fist) has. Good luck and never, never give up!

Jack

[fireplug98]

GO-GO-GO !!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Stay strong and keep moving forward !!!
I know its a tough personal challenge and commitment.
As Bob Denman said, "Nothing but admiration in my heart" for you guys !!!

Tommy J. :cheers:

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: Just got back from a Doctor's appointment... (At least I got to ride the Spyder out to it!)
I'm now at 212 pounds, so I guess that I should try and drop about ten pounds also... :banghead:

[Chupaca]

There are a million diets out there and they all work for someone. Thing is they do not work for everyone as much as they would have you believe. You are going to make it and may find you can get back to your fighting weight once again. You may find this diet becomes stagnent, as most do, but that is where the challenge is. The only one I know that never fails is not consumming more than you can burn off in a day. Good luck your off to a good start....:2thumbs:

[oldgoat]

I wish you both the best of luck, but it will be very difficult.

At the beginning of last Nov my doc said I was "pre-diabetic". 5'8" & 182lbs.

I have really struggled since then but am now 5'8" & 169lbs.

No fancy diet just cut out candy bars, cookies & jam etc on my morning toast. I'm also a coeliac, which makes it a bit more difficult. Some days I am weak & eat more than I should but I sure as heck don't want to go from pre-diabetic to diabetic.

Hang in there.

[jaherbst]

I wish you both the best of luck, but it will be very difficult.

At the beginning of last Nov my doc said I was "pre-diabetic". 5'8" & 182lbs.

I have really struggled since then but am now 5'8" & 169lbs.

No fancy diet just cut out candy bars, cookies & jam etc on my morning toast. I'm also a coeliac, which makes it a bit more difficult. Some days I am weak & eat more than I should but I sure as heck don't want to go from pre-diabetic to diabetic.

Hang in there.

You either are diabetic or not diabetic. Pre diabetic is not a medical term, if so the entire population would be pre diabetic. Your numbers will tell you!

Jack

[spydaman60]

looking forward to meeting (less of you) there! :2thumbs:

[sypderrobinson134]

I want to say thank you to everyone for all the kind words. I want to say thank you. I'll update everyone once a week as things progress


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[BLUEKNIGHT911]

You either are diabetic or not diabetic. Pre diabetic is not a medical term, if so th entire population would be pre diabetic. Your numbers will tell you!

Jack
Yes it is Jack................they were talking about it on the news tonight....Dr Jon LaPook CBS

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

You either are diabetic or not diabetic. Pre diabetic is not a medical term, if so th entire population would be pre diabetic. Your numbers will tell you!

Jack
A quote from no less an authority than the Mayo Clinic. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/prediabetes/basics/definition/con-20024420


Definition

By Mayo Clinic Staff (http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-this-site/welcome)

Prediabetes means that your blood sugar level is higher than normal but not yet high enough to be classified as type 2 diabetes. Without intervention, prediabetes is likely to become type 2 diabetes in 10 years or less. If you have prediabetes, the long-term damage of diabetes — especially to your heart and circulatory system — may already be starting.
There's good news, however. Prediabetes can be an opportunity for you to improve your health. Progression from prediabetes to type 2 diabetes isn't inevitable.
With healthy lifestyle changes — such as eating healthy foods, including physical activity in your daily routine and maintaining a healthy weight — you may be able to bring your blood sugar level back to normal.

[Bfromla]

First I commend you on this endeavor :clap: :clap: :clap: and am hoping you can get it down to something that is Healthy for you........It is very stressful so take it slow........If you have an owners manual you really need to take a look at the LOAD capacity of your Spyder......if you don't you could get yourself into a heap of trouble......This is meant only to help you....................I wish you and the wife all the BEST.....Mike :thumbup:
:agree::congrats::2thumbs: Just keep in mind riding the spyder there is not a requirement :coffee:
We want all attendees there safe & happy for more FUN!:yes::yes::yes: WE wish you and the wife all the BEST:ohyea: Come & enjoy:thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

Being "Pre-diabetic", is about like being "Pre-Pregnant"... :shocked:

You either are; or you aren't!
People playing games with medical terms really annoys me...:gaah:

[spyderfever]

:yes:Thank You spyderrobinson for your message & I think you have already inspired several of us spyderlovers to eat healthy, lose a little weight, & live a healthier lifestyle. Looking forward to meeting you & your wife @ Spyderfest 2016 in April.:)

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

People playing games with medical terms really annoys me...:gaah:
Even when it's medical people like the folks at Mayo Clinic? :dontknow:

What about the person who, about ten years ago, had a BG reading of 135? He was not diabetic on the day when the criteria was 140, but he was the next day when the criteria was changed from 140 to 126. Yet nothing changed in his body, right? Sleep apnea is defined as 15 breathing pauses of 10 seconds or more per hour. But can you really say the person who has 20 pauses of 9 seconds each hour does not have sleep apnea, and the person with 14 pauses of 20 seconds or more also does not?

At what point is your Spyder's rear tire flat? Only when it's finally down to 8 psi, or is it 4, or 2, or 0? When is it almost flat? At 15 psi, or 10? When you are dealing with definitions that are based on a sliding or analog value there really is no such thing as absolute yes or no. In pregnancy there is a cell mass growing and dividing or not, no in between. In counting pennies if you have 5 pennies in your hand, you don't have 6. No ifs and or buts about it. But if you just drilled a hole in a piece of metal is it round or oval if one diameter is 10 thousandths larger than another? You could call it oval and not round if it's .062 in diameter. But it would most likely be defined as round if it's 10 inches in diameter. There is no such thing as exact in variable measurements, only in discreet measurements.

Pre-diabetic is a perfectly good way to describe a condition that is approaching the threshold of the somewhat arbitrary diabetes definition.

[Bob Denman]

You know what it is when you see it... nojoke

[oldgoat]

Even when it's medical people like the folks at Mayo Clinic? :dontknow:

What about the person who, about ten years ago, had a BG reading of 135? He was not diabetic on the day when the criteria was 140, but he was the next day when the criteria was changed from 140 to 126. Yet nothing changed in his body, right? Sleep apnea is defined as 15 breathing pauses of 10 seconds or more per hour. But can you really say the person who has 20 pauses of 9 seconds each hour does not have sleep apnea, and the person with 14 pauses of 20 seconds or more also does not?

At what point is your Spyder's rear tire flat? Only when it's finally down to 8 psi, or is it 4, or 2, or 0? When is it almost flat? At 15 psi, or 10? When you are dealing with definitions that are based on a sliding or analog value there really is no such thing as absolute yes or no. In pregnancy there is a cell mass growing and dividing or not, no in between. In counting pennies if you have 5 pennies in your hand, you don't have 6. No ifs and or buts about it. But if you just drilled a hole in a piece of metal is it round or oval if one diameter is 10 thousandths larger than another? You could call it oval and not round if it's .062 in diameter. But it would most likely be defined as round if it's 10 inches in diameter. There is no such thing as exact in variable measurements, only in discreet measurements.

Pre-diabetic is a perfectly good way to describe a condition that is approaching the threshold of the somewhat arbitrary diabetes definition.

Well put.

But I don't suppose Dr Denman or Dr jaherbst will agree. They both seem to be in an argumentative mood.

I have sleep apnea & use a CPAP at night. Maybe they will dispute that medical opinion as well. Too much time on their hands.



I hope the OP is successful.

[Bob Denman]

Well put.
But I don't suppose Dr Denman (MD, failed, Bombay) or Dr jaherbst (MD, failed, Calcutta) will agree.

I don't know about Jack; but after 51 years of being a Type I diabetic; I think that I know just a little bit more about it, than some "armchair quarterbacks". nojoke

The term "Pre-diabetic", is a lot like saying that someone, "has a touch of sugar".
Do you REALLY know what that means? :dontknow:
It means that they aren't yet willing to admit what is coming next.
:lecturef_smilie: The problem with denying the existence of diabetes, is that it delays getting the proper treatment for it.

[rwc]

Having been in medicine over 40 years I realize that the term Pre-Diabetic is currently in vogue. However I dislike the term as I feel that it misleads patients. I think that it is better to tell a patient that they are diabetic but that they can be diet and exercise controlled and if they are they may not develop Diabetes that requires medication. However if they do not watch their diet and get some exercises they will become medication controlled or may advance to insulin control This is for Type 2 diabetes Type 1 diabetes will be on insulin from the start.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I don't know about Jack; but after 51 years of being a Type I diabetic; I think that I know just a little bit more about it, than some "armchair quarterbacks". nojoke

The term "Pre-diabetic", is a lot like saying that someone, "has a touch of sugar".
Do you REALLY know what that means? :dontknow:
It means that they aren't yet willing to admit what is coming next.
:lecturef_smilie: The problem with denying the existence of diabetes, is that it delays getting the proper treatment for it.
Back in 2001/2002 I was in a clinical diet study program at Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge, LA. I got put into the control group so I received no diet medications or counseling. But I did have a monthly blood test for 18 months IIRC. At the end of the study the doctor told me that my BG had crossed the threshold for diabetes diagnosis, which at that time was 140. I was then put into a clinical trial for Actos. Sometime during that study, which I think was 6 months, my primary care doc told me that the threshold for diabetes diagnosis had been lowered to 126. Studies had shown that at about a level of 100 typical symptoms of diabetes were starting to be seen in patients. Therefore, a level of 100 was being defined as Pre-diabetes, in other words diabetic symptoms were quite possibly going to be exhibited at a mild level, but not certain. At a level of 126 and above symptoms were almost certain to occur. The severity of symptoms, such as a tendency for gangrene or kidney failure, at 126 are a lot less than at 300. Below 100 diabetic symptoms are not exhibited. That's why below 100 is defined as normal.

So in short, below 100 no diabetic symptoms, 100 to 126 symptoms are possible, and above 126 almost certain. Also, when BG levels above 100 are seen it's a strong indicator that BG level is creeping up and not staying stable. Once it starts creeping up it almost certainly will continue to creep up unless the patient is proactive in diet and exercise. Many people are able to keep their BG below 126 by being proactive, thus they avoid the formal diagnosis of being diabetic, but the propensity for the BG to increase will always be present. That's why 100 to 126 is defined as pre-diabetic.

The above of course is all related to Type II diabetes. I would be inclined to agree that in relation to Type I it either is, or it isn't. There's big difference between the two types in the area of causation. The resultant impacts and symptoms are much the same though.

[oldgoat]

I don't know about Jack; but after 51 years of being a Type I diabetic; I think that I know just a little bit more about it, than some "armchair quarterbacks". nojoke

The term "Pre-diabetic", is a lot like saying that someone, "has a touch of sugar".
Do you REALLY know what that means? :dontknow:
It means that they aren't yet willing to admit what is coming next.
:lecturef_smilie: The problem with denying the existence of diabetes, is that it delays getting the proper treatment for it.


I think that the measures I have taken could be classed as 'proper treatment'. I do not have my head in the sand & fully (I hope) realise the seriousness of doing nothing. Yes, my blood sugar was a bit above ideal (can't remember the #) so am endeavouring to set that right.

My maternal aunt had a leg removed due to diabetes & my mother had it when she died.

'nuf said. Enjoy the sunny & warm weekend expected. I'm eagerly awaiting April 1st (unfortunate choice of dates) when my Spyder is plated again.

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: I'd pick that plate up on March 31st... :shocked:

[oldgoat]

:shocked: I'd pick that plate up on March 31st... :shocked:


That would cost an extra $100. Maybe April 2nd.

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: But that delays your start of the riding Season by another 24 hours! :yikes::yikes:
Get the plate on the first, but carry along a pig; for good luck! nojoke

[sypderrobinson134]

So It's been a couple weeks and I wanted to update everyone on my progress. Currently I haven't really dropped a lot of weight but about 2 and a half weeks into the gym I can say I feel better and I've got more energy. That just means that I'll be able to hang with you spyder vets down in Springfield lol. As far as it goes I have another weigh in on Monday. I've been using social media, this forum, and a few other places to help keep me motivated and I can't thank ya'll enough for being badass and keeping with the kind words. Thank you guys so much.

[Kwalsh]

I have also not lost any real weight but I can feel my energy levels up and starting to run on treadmill again, haven't been able to do that in a few years

[jaherbst]

:shocked: Just got back from a Doctor's appointment... (At least I got to ride the Spyder out to it!)
I'm now at 212 pounds, so I guess that I should try and drop about ten pounds also... :banghead:

That's a lot of weight Bob for a guy that is only 5' 2". :joke:

Jack

[jaherbst]

Being "Pre-diabetic", is about like being "Pre-Pregnant"... :shocked:

You either are; or you aren't!
People playing games with medical terms really annoys me...:gaah:

Like I said Bob, and you agree, everyone is pre-diabetic until you become a diabetic. I know we both are diabetic and it is hard to listen to all the talking heads but the numbers tell the tale. I have been using Mayo Clinic since my pre employment physical with NWA in 1965. I also have three Doctors in my immediate family. All have given me great advice through the years. Problem with type two, you may have it and not know it until a lot of damage has been done.

Get a physical every year with a good blood test. It could save your life or a leg. My yard/snow plowing guy at our mountain home just had a leg removed because of diabetes and is looking at a possible second removal. Most diabetes can be managed with recent medication and insulin.

Jack

[blitzkreig]

Having been in medicine over 40 years I realize that the term Pre-Diabetic is currently in vogue. However I dislike the term as I feel that it misleads patients. I think that it is better to tell a patient that they are diabetic but that they can be diet and exercise controlled and if they are they may not develop Diabetes that requires medication. However if they do not watch their diet and get some exercises they will become medication controlled or may advance to insulin control This is for Type 2 diabetes Type 1 diabetes will be on insulin from the start.

I believe the whole term "Type 2" in reference to the disease is unfortunate. Why couldn't the powers that be have picked a whole different term than "Type 2" anything?

The whole Type 1 Diabetes and Type 2 as a disease having so very little in common.

When I was diagnosed with Type 1 ... I was as thin as a rail. Down to 125 lbs. As it turned out my pancreas now puts out exactly ZERO insulin. Tell me ... how many Type 2 diabetics can say that ... ?

[sypderrobinson134]

I have also not lost any real weight but I can feel my energy levels up and starting to run on treadmill again, haven't been able to do that in a few years


I'm glad you're also trying to better yourself. It just makes it that much more gratifying to know that I'm at least kind of inspiring people.

[sypderrobinson134]

Thought I'd update everyone and thus far I'm down to 347. That's about 13 pounds lighter but I definitely feel a difference in just how I do things. Both cardio and muscle are starting to work together and I can feel a big difference in my overall feel. Just wanted to let you guys know an update.

[sypderrobinson134]

With Spyderfest on the horizon I'd like to take a moment and give ya'll an update. I haven't been to the gym in a couple of weeks due to the fact that I got a concussion at work and have been trying to take it easy so that I'm well enough to come enjoy the festivities with you guys. That said, I'm also down to about 340 which is roughly 26 pounds from where I started and is really just the start of this goal. We took a ride on the psyder the other day and while numbers aren't quite where we want them to be we could feel a difference in the comfort level of us both being on the spyder and at the end of the day that was the ultimate goal. With that said we've only got about 3 days left until everyone converges on Springfield and I can't wait. Stay safe on the road and I can't wait to meet eveveryone next week.