No Hitch Required

[jthornton]

I finally got caught up with other pressing things and started to fabricate the prototype for the NH-Carrier. Here is a sneak peek at the prototype.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125429&stc=1

JT

[GOZFST]

I finally got caught up with other pressing things and started to fabricate the prototype for the NH-Carrier. Here is a sneak peek at the prototype.


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125429&stc=1

JT
Looks good, but isn't that 2x4 gonna wear pretty quick?:roflblack:

[Chupaca]

Shapping up nicely. Should be a hit. You could add a brake light sending unit and a battery operated led light for more lighting and protection...:thumbup: Have one on my helmet with turnsignal and night strobe.

[Bob Denman]

:clap: I'm liking what I'm seeing! :2thumbs:
Thanks for the update.

[AeroPilot]

Looks nice just wondering about any visibility requirements for the license plate. Looks like a good solution for those wanting a little more storage but not wanting to purchase/keep up with a trailer. :thumbup::thumbup:

[jthornton]

Looks good, but isn't that 2x4 gonna wear pretty quick?:roflblack:

It's self adjusting...

JT

[Commander]

Very Nice

[jtpollock]

JT Looks good can't wait to see it powder coated or painted you guys amaze me keep up the good work.:thumbup:nojoke jtpollock

[jthornton]

JT Looks good can't wait to see it powder coated or painted you guys amaze me keep up the good work.:thumbup:nojoke jtpollock

Thanks, it's just me now that the dog passed away. It will be powder coated for sure.

JT

[ARtraveler]

:2thumbs::2thumbs: Good stuff. :firstplace:

[Bob Denman]

Thanks, it's just me now that the dog passed away. It will be powder coated for sure.

JT

I'm sorry to hear of your loss... :shocked:

[MRH]

No hitch, really? Do you know when you anticipate having it out of production? Any idea on the cost yet, and the difficulty to install and remove?

There is a trip I am taking in September...

[IGETAROUND]

JT, sorry for your loss; hard to loose a good companion

Al

[jthornton]

Thanks, Cocoa is missed. She passed away the day we were returning from the Alaska trip. She had a happy very well cared for life so I'm good with the time she could spend with us.

Well I finally got something done! I'm impressed with how sturdy it is.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125668&stc=1
I just have to blast and powder coat the prototype and I'm almost ready to go to the bayou!

Al, yes this does not require a $500 hitch. Initial installation requires you to remove the axle to install the swing arm adapters. After that you can take it off and on with 4 bolts and if you didn't look close when off you can't tell anything is there. When I return from Spyders on the Bayou I'll get the parts laser cut out to fabricate these and get started on producing them. So I'm hoping to have them in a month or so. It was quite fun and time consuming getting this baby right.

Gozfst, look no 4bee2! And what a pile of pre-bent parts that aren't just quite right...

JT

[900Dave]

I will most likely be interested in this product. I plan on purchasing an F3 Limited in the next 8 to 12 months but was concerned about lack of storage on long trips when riding 2 up. I was also not interested in towing a trailer. This would fix that problem.

[jthornton]

I will most likely be interested in this product. I plan on purchasing an F3 Limited in the next 8 to 12 months but was concerned about lack of storage on long trips when riding 2 up. I was also not interested in towing a trailer. This would fix that problem.

This product will not fit the F3 swing arm, it's a totally different design. This fits GS, RS, ST and RT.

JT

[900Dave]

This product will not fit the F3 swing arm, it's a totally different design. This fits GS, RS, ST and RT.

JT

I believe the 2016 F3T & F3 Limited have the RT swing arm? Someone on here will correct me if I am wrong. That is why these 2 new F3 models can be fitted with the BRP hitch.

[PW2013STL]

This product will not fit the F3 swing arm, it's a totally different design. This fits GS, RS, ST and RT.

JT

JT,

Lamont stated that the new F3T and Limited comes with a swing arm like the RT so this may work for 900Dave since he stated that the F3 Limited is what he planned on getting.

[jthornton]

Yea, if the 2016 F3 has the same swing arm as the RT it should work then. Good to know.

JT

[Bob Denman]

Watching and waiting... :clap:

[jthornton]

Watching and waiting... :clap:

Powder Coating done, I'll install it back on the Spyder this morning and take some more photos.

JT

[Bob Denman]

:thumbup: Do you have any idea as to what the pricing is going to be? :dontknow:

[jthornton]

:thumbup: Do you have any idea as to what the pricing is going to be? :dontknow:

Not yet, I still need to get some more cost info. I do know what it will look like now.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125791&stc=1

After putting it on and off a few times, I have a few minor tweaks to do to make it even better so I'll make a third prototype starting tomorrow. This one will be on the Spyder at Spyders at the Bayou for anyone that wants to look at it. In the mean time today I must get my Stebel mounted. Dang I could have wiped the dry box off before taking a photo...:opps:

JT

[Ex-Rocket]

JT, Do you know what the weight capacity will be as yet?

[jthornton]

JT, Do you know what the weight capacity will be as yet?

I really don't want to go on record saying it will carry x amount of weight. It is rather sturdy and you should use good judgment when loading it. I would not suggest filling it with your lead collection :yikes: I usually pack our clothes in the dry box so I can just unhook the bungees and take the whole box inside the hotel.

JT

[jthornton]

All ready to go to Spyders on the Bayou!

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125927&stc=1

JT

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

JT, you might want to make a cardboard plate and tape it to the back of your box......because the one on the Spyder is not visible .........good luck.......Mike :bbq:

[Bob Denman]

JT,
:clap: I can't wait to hear about how the "Shakedown Cruise" goes... :2thumbs:

[jthornton]

Just an update on this, I had to build a bigger blast cabinet to be able to blast the larger parts properly and by tomorrow it is done.

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One more thing to go and we start production!
JT

[Bob Denman]

Thanks for the latest update! :thumbup:
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Brian Kay]

I see that being a good use for a nice yeti cooler, filled with food and "drink" when exploring. Sure, you can also pack clothes in a plastic bag and place in the cooler... Nothing says you have to have warm clothes lol.

JT, just love your creativity and your products.

[cyclelover63]

What about if you have a hitch?

[Bswank]

How hard is it to install and remove? :opps:

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

Looking forward to hearing how much it will cost. Been thinking about getting a trailer, but with not needing a hitch, this will be perfect for my needs.

[Bob Denman]

:agree: If we had at least an idea of where the price will be: it could give us something to shoot for in the negotiation process. :D

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

Hey JT, Any news on this?

[jthornton]

I see that being a good use for a nice yeti cooler, filled with food and "drink" when exploring. Sure, you can also pack clothes in a plastic bag and place in the cooler... Nothing says you have to have warm clothes lol.

JT, just love your creativity and your products.

That would be too heavy for the NHR Carrier. Remember it is attached to the swingarm not the frame.

JT

[jthornton]

What about if you have a hitch?

I have a different version for a hitch that clamps on to the hitch. That is next.

JT

[jthornton]

:agree: If we had at least an idea of where the price will be: it could give us something to shoot for in the negotiation process. :D

Less that a BRP hitch.

JT

[jthornton]

Hey JT, Any news on this?

Yes, I'm building a new press brake to be able to bend the parts with accuracy and it should be done this week then I start producing them. Sorry it is taking so long but I want a quality product at a fair price as always.

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JT

[jthornton]

How hard is it to install and remove? :opps:

On the final version you take one bolt out and slide it off.

JT

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

Thanks for the update JT.

[jthornton]

Thanks for the update JT.

My buddy with a larger machine shop came buy and needed some parts cut out on the plasma so I sent him back with one of the press brake parts that would have been difficult for me to make so that will speed up the process of making the new press brake. Managed to get more done on it yesterday. Got the machining don on the base plate and the shafts and bearings showed up so I'm making good progress on that.

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JT

[spyderCodes]

JT you are a very clever person.
Will it work on an F3?

Hope so.

[m109anc]

Like what I've seen, thanks for the update. :yes::yes:

[blacklightning]

We are all watching. Thanks for the updates. Let us know when we can purchase.

[jthornton]

JT you are a very clever person.
Will it work on an F3?

Hope so.

Hi Roger,

It will fit the new F3 with the RT swing arm :(
If I had access to first generation F3 I'm sure I could make one to fit.

JT

[jthornton]

Gotta love a good Press Brake. I purchased a 60 ton 6 foot Accupress years ago when I worked for Jet Aviation. Took some heat about initial cost and the full set of punches and dies, plus gooseneck punches and also Boeing non marring tooling for aluminum and titanium work.

Well this won't be of that caliber but much better than the crummy one I've been using. non marring as in urethane dies?

Made some progress today.
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Concrete guys are putting up the forms for my new building in the morning so I'm sure I'll be out there most of the day. Hope to finish the press brake up this weekend.

If you have any tips on using them I'm all eyes.

JT

[Bfromla]

Hat JT thanks for the NHR, but we could really use a ANTI -tailgate/REARend defencehttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/b91e1e303d15caf86d51327f6fbd77b5.jpg. Think you could get creative? :)


I wasn't there but I still care! POW /MIA VETS

[jthornton]

Sure just tow my cannon behind your Spyder.

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You will get the respect you deserve.
JT

[Bfromla]

Lil harder to load & cant the recoil cause whiplash ??


I wasn't there but I still care!
POW MIA VETS

[Brian Kay]

That would be too heavy for the NHR Carrier. Remember it is attached to the swingarm not the frame.

JT

What's the anticipated weight limit? Won't that cantilevered weight cause long term issues with the swing arm?

[jthornton]

What's the anticipated weight limit? Won't that cantilevered weight cause long term issues with the swing arm?

Not any more than the trailer hitch. The trailer hitch does not cause any long term issues...

JT

[CMA/IBA_rider]

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That's how I mounted my fuel cell

[BoilerAnimal]

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That's how I mounted my fuel cell


Care to give any details? My curiosity is piqued!

[CMA/IBA_rider]

Care to give any details? My curiosity is piqued!

Used trailer hitch brackets to mount the fuel cell. Electric fuel pump to get it up to the main tank. Got a new Volkswagen fuel cap drill the hole and run the line right into it.

[jthornton]

That's how I mounted my fuel cell

That's pretty cool, how many gallons does it hold?

JT

[CMA/IBA_rider]

That's pretty cool, how many gallons does it hold?

JT


It holds 10 gallons

[jthornton]

It holds 10 gallons

That's a pretty good test of the hitch, that would be 60 pounds of gasoline not counting the tank etc.

JT

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: :congrats: Your re-fueling range, as WAYYY beyond most riders' bladder ranges! :clap:

[CMA/IBA_rider]

:shocked: :congrats: Your re-fueling range, as WAYYY beyond most riders' bladder ranges! :clap:

IBA rules say 350 miles. Before you have to stop. I can do that easily. If I leave the coffee in the Monster Energy Drinks Alone

[Bob Denman]

:bowdown:
You should be able to easily surpass 600 miles! :clap:
I've taken my bike to 236 miles so far, and had over a gallon left in it...

[jthornton]

IBA rules say 350 miles. Before you have to stop. I can do that easily. If I leave the coffee in the Monster Energy Drinks Alone

Am I reading this wrong? http://www.ironbutt.com/ridecerts/getdocument.cfm?DocID=3


WARNING: If your motorcycle is equipped with a large fuel-tank, please note that you must stop at least once every 300 miles for gas (this is purely for documentation for your ride). Although we know it is possible to ride greater distances non-stop, we will not accept a claim of this type.

JT

[jthornton]

Finally making some progress on this project as well as others. Rain has been crazy this year we got 20" in the last 3 days... been like that off and on since January. Finally got a hole in the ground and after a couple of weeks of rain we got 9 days of no rain... instant building.
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Press Brake should be done tomorrow, just waiting for some heavier springs for it.
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Laying out some parts for the plasma cutter for the hitch... I'm stoked to finally get this project together.

Hmm, just looked over at the plasma cutter and it is covered in stuff... need to clean it off.

JT

[robmorg]

Looks like a great idea, and very well made, JT. I'll bet you'll sell lots of these. :thumbup:

[jthornton]

Looks like a great idea, and very well made, JT. I'll bet you'll sell lots of these. :thumbup:

Thanks, I just need to get past the go point in making them... been quite a struggle for me.

JT

[Bob Denman]

:D We can wait... :2thumbs: :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[Bfromla]

Thanks, I just need to get past the go point in making them... been quite a struggle for me.

JT
:thumbup: Dont wanna add too much to your plate but will you offer different sizes? Maybe a fuel cell set like CMA/IBA has?? :dontknow: Thanks

[MisterP]

Any thoughts on a price point for the unit? Nothing specific just trying to budget some funds.

[Bob Denman]

When I asked about pricing: he said that it would be less than the cost of a BRP hitch...

[jthornton]

YIPPIE!Got the Press Brake done this morning and the quality of the bend it superb and I'm stoked how well it works. Now to fire off a couple of carriers to work out the bugs.

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If you look close you can see a sample part I bent... nice clean bend with straight sides.

JT

[Bob Denman]

:clap: :thumbup: If you need a "Guinea Pig" to test one: Toss me in a cage, call me "peanut", and feed me some corn! :D

[jthornton]

Wow I have been super busy... finally getting the NHR Carrier to the top of the plate dispenser!

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The new press brake works great and I can now make precision bends in 11ga sheet metal. That is V5, yep I've built 5 versions before I was 1000% happy with the design and function. Fixing to drill some holes in #1 and powder coat it so it's ready for Spyder Palooza (http://www.spyderpalooza.com/home.html) Thursday. While I'm powder coating I'll be plasma cutting out the first batch. I'm so stoked to get this project finally behind me.

JT

[jthornton]

Yippie! #1 is done and fixing to be installed on my Spyder. I even have some parts are done for the first production run next week.

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JT

[Bob Denman]

:clap: Gee.. will you be offering a chromed version too?

seriously: please let us know, when we can start ordering them! :2thumbs:

[jthornton]

Took me 15 minutes to assemble and install the NHR Carrier and man it is sturdy.

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Leaving for Spyder Palooza in the morning so I'll resume production next week. I should have them in stock late next week. For now I'm offering them in powder coat only, I do have chrome powder coat... I'm thinking of 4 versions depending on your needs. Check the web site for updates to the options.

JT

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

Looking forward to ordering one.

[Bob Denman]

Looking forward to ordering one.

I'm looking forward to the fight over ordering one! :D

[jthornton]

Trip to Spyder Palooza and I'm super excited about the NHR Carrier it exceeds my expectations.
No fight Bob just first come first served.

JT

[Bob Denman]

Question: What will the waterproof container cost? :dontknow:

[blacklightning]

What are the dimensions of the supporting area on the rack?

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

I'm looking forward to the fight over ordering one! :D

Bob, I can't believe that you would challenge me to a fight over this!!! I am shocked, shocked I tell you. :joke: That's okay, I will let you be the first to order. But if you ever come down to North Kakalakia, it is on!!!!!!

[jthornton]

Question: What will the waterproof container cost? :dontknow:

Still working on the cost of the options.

JT

[Bob Denman]

Bob, I can't believe that you would challenge me to a fight over this!!! I am shocked, shocked I tell you. :joke: That's okay, I will let you be the first to order. But if you ever come down to North Kakalakia, it is on!!!!!!

:shocked: You misunderstood my poorly-worded meaning... :opps:
I was referring to the fight with The Missus over yet another Farkle... :roflblack:

[jthornton]

What are the dimensions of the supporting area on the rack?

About 15" x 20". I don't have a tape measure with me to get actual measurements.

JT

[jthornton]

Bob, I can't believe that you would challenge me to a fight over this!!! I am shocked, shocked I tell you. :joke: That's okay, I will let you be the first to order. But if you ever come down to North Kakalakia, it is on!!!!!!

I spent many summers at my Grandparents farm in Guilford county I might be biased by location.

JT

[Saluda]

Do you feel there will be a rusting issue where any of these parts meet ? (Not positive of how this would assemble) Thanks.

[jthornton]

Do you feel there will be a rusting issue where any of these parts meet ? (Not positive of how this would assemble) Thanks.

I powder coat each part with the most durable powder coating I can find. This stuff is tough but if you manage to scratch it any touch up paint can fix the scratch.

JT

[C3517C]

What happened to this ? I can't find anything new or a place to buy them.

[Bfromla]

What happened to this ? I can't find anything new or a place to buy them.

Here
http://spyderstore.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=66&product_id=69

[jthornton]

What happened to this ? I can't find anything new or a place to buy them.

I had to break away from building these to finish up the inside of my new shop building. I needed to get heat in and move a bunch of stuff out of the machine shop so I had room to work in there. I was hoping with winter here no one would need one. I'm about 2 weeks away from finishing the work on the shop building then the plan is to finish up the first batch of NHR carriers. Last task is to insulate the roof and the wiring on the west wall. Putting itch up on the bottom of the roof is a slow process...

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JT

[DJFaninTN]

I had to break away from building these to finish up the inside of my new shop building. I needed to get heat in and move a bunch of stuff out of the machine shop so I had room to work in there. I was hoping with winter here no one would need one. I'm about 2 weeks away from finishing the work on the shop building then the plan is to finish up the first batch of NHR carriers. Last task is to insulate the roof and the wiring on the west wall. Putting itch up on the bottom of the roof is a slow process...

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JT


New Shop Building?? Very nice JT ...... congrats

[Bob Denman]

:agree::congrats::clap::2thumbs:

[jthornton]

Thanks, it's been a long time coming. I started cutting trees in January 2016, started digging stumps out in March, started to excavate the site in April and due to all the rains we had it took me till the end of July to get a flat spot! On August the 4th the concrete guys showed up, they were done and gone the next day Friday the 5th. The builder was there on Monday at 10am and pulled out Friday at 10am... man that was fast. I've been trying to sort it out ever since. By October I realized that the 2" of insulation was not up to the job for winters in Missouri so I had move my shelves and all the stuff on them away from the walls and run conduit for electric and put up some itch, while I was at it I covered the walls with OSB, I got that done December 31 2017. I got my wood stove put in and started on the insulation for the ceiling. I hope to be done with the ceiling this week :yes: at that point it's back to regular jobs. Of course all this fun is constantly interrupted by work I do at the industrial park programming PLC's and making automation equipment.

I decided I needed a better welding table to build these on so I built a Certi-Flat welding table just before it got cold lol.
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The parts for the first run is on the table, I just need to make the fixtures and weld them up. Then they are ready for powder coat. I've got everything ready just need some time.

JT

[DJFaninTN]

man, even Trump would be tired following you around :roflblack:

[Bob Denman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPQlXNH36mI

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[jthornton]

man, even Trump would be tired following you around :roflblack:

Yea, I'm on the go from 5am till 6pm when I call it quits and go inside to visit with the wife who is usually home from work by then. Well sometimes I sleep in to 5:15am...nojoke

JT

[RedRTS]

What is the completed weight on the unit? Also do you know approx weight of the box that goes with it to figure the resultant amount of weight that might be added to remail within suggested weight on the unit?

Thanks!
Looks good though!

[Hisst]

You mean Like this. I made my own frame. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/webkit-fake-url://f3c61023-71a1-4673-a824-64c2e2deb6fb/imagejpeghttp://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/webkit-fake-url://b326b014-cae5-429c-bedc-a3c5360fa8b6/imagejpeghttp://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/webkit-fake-url://35da742f-cc79-4404-a076-5e14a8f988c7/imagejpeg

[jthornton]

What is the completed weight on the unit? Also do you know approx weight of the box that goes with it to figure the resultant amount of weight that might be added to remail within suggested weight on the unit?

Thanks!
Looks good though!

If you choose the box option it weighs about 5 pounds. When packing the box think light things go in here, your beer/soda go in the front trunk lol. I've packed the box over full with clothes with no problem.

If you choose the aluminum diamond plate then you can strap a dry bag or other soft luggage to that.

JT

[SpyderCruiser]

That is a fine looking shop, good luck.

I love the carrier and will purchase one when available. Can we get it with diamond mesh so if we forgo the box, we could still load stuff on it? I just purchased the box from Cabelas, it is on sale for only 9.95 right now. http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1535080&categoryId=0&parentCategoryId=0&subCategoryId=0&indexId=0&itemGUID=b3e55a93ac1084583203849a186c5499&destination=%252Fuser%252Forder_details.cmd%253Fid %253DwD4DO5INxApXsVLjb6Rjxg%25253D%25253D%2526key% 253D06e0b07547de49318bf5135015f0b9ea

How bad does the box block the view of the license plate? Will the LEO's have an issue with it?

Take care and thanks for designing the carrier.

[jthornton]

That is a fine looking shop, good luck.

I love the carrier and will purchase one when available. Can we get it with diamond mesh so if we forgo the box, we could still load stuff on it? I just purchased the box from Cabelas, it is on sale for only 9.95 right now. http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1535080&categoryId=0&parentCategoryId=0&subCategoryId=0&indexId=0&itemGUID=b3e55a93ac1084583203849a186c5499&destination=%252Fuser%252Forder_details.cmd%253Fid %253DwD4DO5INxApXsVLjb6Rjxg%25253D%25253D%2526key% 253D06e0b07547de49318bf5135015f0b9ea

How bad does the box block the view of the license plate? Will the LEO's have an issue with it?

Take care and thanks for designing the carrier.

The master plan is to offer aluminum diamond plate for dry bags and similar soft articles, flattened aluminum diamond mesh, and without for the dry box.

If the LEO's had any issue with hitch carriers there would be a million cars and trucks in trouble! The important thing is it doesn't block the tail light.

JT

[Dan McNally]

Any updates on when this will be available? :clap:

[jthornton]

Dang $Day Job$ has me working 10-11 hours a day 8 days a week... pretty whipped out at the end of the day. I hope this comes to an end soon so I can finish up the first batch.

JT

[jthornton]

Finally delivered the machine that was making me work 8 days a week and 10-11 hours a day... whew I'm glad that's done. Back to normal hectic working hours for me :). I will finish the first batch up after Spyders on the Bayou this weekend.

JT