New York is Trike Unfriendly

[DrJohn]

The tolls for trikes are more than double for a tire than that of a car or motorcycle. For example, trikes pay $23.50 R/T on the Tappan Zee (peak) versus $9.50 for cars.

I would leave New York in a heartbeat if I was offered a job elsewhere. I don't live in New York City. But, I have to pay a New York City income tax thanks to Cuomo and Blumberg!

John

Update 2/26/16: I got a call from the NY Thruway Authority today. The person said he agrees with me totally. He has no idea where that classification came from. They will change it in the next few days. A motorcycle should be charged the same whether it is 2 or three wheels. Anyone who was overcharged will get a refund.

John

[Bob Denman]

Did you ask "Why"? :dontknow:
Perhaps if enough folks point out this inequity; it will change...

[DrJohn]

Did you ask "Why"? :dontknow:
Perhaps if enough folks point out this inequity; it will change...

Ask who why? the NY DMV will barely give you the time of day. They make everything as difficult as it possibly can be. The only answer I would get after wasting hours and hours of time is "that is the law."

John

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

On roads considered Inter or Intra -State I thought the tolls were based on weight and number of axels / wheels...................Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

Ask who why? the NY DMV will barely give you the time of day. They make everything as difficult as it possibly can be. The only answer I would get after wasting hours and hours of time is "that is the law."

John

If it's not worth the effort to find an answer; then what do you want us to do about it?
You could at least call your elected representatives, and see if they're willing to look into it...

[DrJohn]

Did you ask "Why"? :dontknow:
Perhaps if enough folks point out this inequity; it will change...

Write to the NY Thruway Authority.

John

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

THis is the kinda stuff AAA takes on, contact them. they are located in garden city, ny

[Chupaca]

Come to southern CA where we have two (2) toll roads and they are optional....:roflblack: Gps always sends you there but we all keep going...:thumbup:

[DrJohn]

Come to southern CA where we have two (2) toll roads and they are optional....:roflblack: Gps always sends you there but we all keep going...:thumbup:

I was stationed at the USMC base in San Diego in 1969. It is a great place to ride, etc.

John

[pegasus1300]

Also contact the AMA as this is the kind of pro motorcycle cause they love.

[BlueBayou]

http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/schedules/barrier.html
http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/classes.html

The person who overcharged you made a mistake, not the first time for them.

[DrJohn]

http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/schedules/barrier.html
http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/classes.html

The person who overcharged you made a mistake, not the first time for them.

No mistake. A Trike is considered a 3L vehicle.

John

[BlueBayou]

You were charged for 3 axles and being over 7' 6"

[Bob Denman]

Were you towing a trailer? :dontknow:

I think that Wayne is right; they made (another) mistake... :banghead:

[Highwayman2013]

How the heck do they determine you have 3 axles?

[Bob Denman]

They're counting the "Stub axles", for the two front wheels.

[murphybrown]

I traveled a lot of NY a couple years ago on my Spyder and never paid those kinds of tolls....mostly avoided toll roads whenever I could...heck I was even downtown Manhattan...I just made road choices that didn't require tolls. I did learn to have a roll of quarters handy....:yes:

[BajaRon]

No mistake. A Trike is considered a 3L vehicle.

John

Someone is giving you bad information. Their own diagram of how axles are counted shows you as a 2 axle vehicle. You are 2L according to the documentation posted. There is no way you're 3L. Cars have 4 axle spindles so with that reasoning they should be 4L not 2L.

[Skip H]

Someone is giving you bad information. Their own diagram of how axles are counted shows you as a 2 axle vehicle. You are 2L according to the documentation posted. There is no way you're 3L. Cars have 4 axle spindles so with that reasoning they should be 4L not 2L.

This is a problem that has existed for years. I ride a motorcycle with a sidecar and have encountered the same situation. The toll taker was/is mistaken, trikes and sidecars are two axle vehicles. When/if this happens again, get a receipt and the toll takers name or other identification, then write a polite letter to the toll collection authority, not the BMV. You have been over charged and are due a refund. It may take a while and even ore that one letter back and forth, but it is worth it unless you just want to give your money away.

[Bob Denman]

This really sounds more like a toll-Booth Monkey that needs more training; rather than an unfriendly State...


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124784&stc=1

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OK what happened to Dr. John ticked me off. Sooooooooo I checked on-line in a dozen places and was pretty sure the RATE would be for that of a CAR.....However, I like to be really sure soooooooo I found an 800 # and called that........after asking the QUESTION I was put on HOLD for 5 minutes and was then apologized to by the call-ee........since She didn't know She found a supervisor who told Her ......the Rate for a registered Motorcycle ( 2 or 3 wheel ) was $ 4.75 with an EZ-Pass .........that is the discounted normal rate of $ 5.00..... Where Dr. John got $ 9.50 for a car I have no idea.....and you only pay Eastbound.............Your all welcome ......END OF THREAD :yes::yes::yes::yes:...........I HOPE :pray: :pray: :pray:Mike :thumbup:

[oldguyinTX]

Something is not right here. I an use EZPass on my Spyder. I have never been charged that kind of money. The Spyder, according to my statement is classed as a 2L. The toll I pay for the Tappan Zee Bridge, with my trailer, is $4.75. I do have the trailer registered with EZPass, but do not have a transponder for it, only the Spyder. The tolls on the Garden State Parkway are higher, as in NJ with the trailer, it is considered to be 3 axles. Are you using an EZPass, and if so, is it motorcycle specific? If not, you will pay higher tolls, and even higher tolls if you are paying cash.

[ARtraveler]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: for now.

[Brentc]

John, it was a bit of a pain, but if you go through the ez pass web site you can find the steps to register your motorcycle and get a discounted rate on the tolls. You will need to,send in a copy of the registration to prove you have a motorcycle and then you will get a transponder with a big M on the back. I have one for the spyder and it works well. I'm still fine tuning the best location for it while riding, mostly in my jacket upper pocket seems to work.

[Bob Denman]

Here's where I hid mine...
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124798&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124799&stc=1

[Brentc]

Here's where I hid mine...
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124798&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124799&stc=1

I tried it velcroed directly to the underside of hood and it did not work. I'll give that spot a try this spring when I'm out and about. The part that sucks, is calling ez pass everytime it doesn't work correctly.

[Bob Denman]

I tried the funklid also without success... the dang thing kept coming loose, and ending up laying at the bottom of the frunk... :banghead:

[IGETAROUND]

traveled most of the NY parkway on my way home last year; paying cash and is was $14.50 or something close to that when I exited to Canada.:thumbup:

[Trbayth]

I tried it velcroed directly to the underside of hood and it did not work. I'll give that spot a try this spring when I'm out and about. The part that sucks, is calling ez pass everytime it doesn't work correctly.

I usually have mine velcroed underneath the hood as well and it has always worked except for once. Since I registered the plate with NY EZ-Pass they charged me correctly based on that instead.

[Crisis]

My ezpass has a black "M" for motorcycle on the back of it. Are you possibly using a car ezpass and confusing the system?

[Bfromla]

http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/schedules/barrier.html
http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/tolls/classes.html

The person who overcharged you made a mistake, not the first time for them.
:agree: All too ez. Ads question if you had a trailer? Also contact your local ABATE http://abateny.org/mclaws.html for good measure:thumbup: You too BOB D

[Sam Mac]

NY is unfriendly to more than just Trikes. Try owning a gun or a business in NY. When you have nothing better to do check out the difference in prices to cross the Hudson from the GW bridge to the Newburg bridge.

[SpyderCruiser]

I use to work for the GSP, not as a toll taker but in technology. If you were not towing a trailer you should have been charged for 2 axles. I used NJ EZ pass on NY trips and was charged for 2 axles.

[flaggerphil]

As to placement of toll passes...I"m in Florida and use Sunpass. I stick mine onto the inside of my windshield when I'm going to use toll roads and simply take it off when I'm parked. I've tried a variety of ways to use it in the frunk and haven't come up with a good one yet.

[bmccaffrey]

John

You git screwer blued and tatooed.

Must have known your a dr. and have money.:roflblack:

It's registered as motorcycle. Think i would have shown mt registration

[900Dave]

I tried it velcroed directly to the underside of hood and it did not work. I'll give that spot a try this spring when I'm out and about. The part that sucks, is calling ez pass everytime it doesn't work correctly.


The ez pass issue has been discussed many times on here. I have mine attached under the frunk it has never fallen off after thousands of miles. To the left we hang our sunglasses and they have never fallen off and to the right there are 2 pieces of Velcro for my garage door opener and it has fallen off one time but the Velcro did not come off.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124806&stc=1

I thoroughly clean the surface with rubbing alcohol then apply. I do not use the normal Velcro for the ez pass. I use the stuff the PA DMV supplies.

[ta-kid]

You Yanks still using those little white boxes!!Your DMV needs to upgrade.Here in BC Canada we use an electronic decal that does the same signal process.It sticks to your headlight on a bike or under the mirror on the windshield of a car.Has a real tiny electronic chip in it for toll bridges.

[oldguyinTX]

Here's mine.http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124808&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124810&stc=1 Inside the frunk lid. It has never fallen off. I just used the Velcro strips that came with it. Works everywhere except the Beacon-Newburg bridge. Don't ask my why, I have no idea.

[Trbayth]

You Yanks still using those little white boxes!!Your DMV needs to upgrade.Here in BC Canada we use an electronic decal that does the same signal process.It sticks to your headlight on a bike or under the mirror on the windshield of a car.Has a real tiny electronic chip in it for toll bridges.

Probably because the bridge and tunnel authorities feel if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[DrJohn]

Update 2/26/16: I got a call from the NY Thruway Authority today. The person said he agrees with me totally. He has no idea where that classification came from. They will change it in the next few days. A motorcycle should be charged the same whether it is 2 or three wheels. Anyone who was overcharged will get a refund.

John

[Bob Denman]

Thanks for the update! :thumbup:

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Update 2/26/16: I got a call from the NY Thruway Authority today. The person said he agrees with me totally. He has no idea where that classification came from. They will change it in the next few days. A motorcycle should be charged the same whether it is 2 or three wheels. Anyone who was overcharged will get a refund.

John

WOW !!!.... I posted the answer yesterday....plus I sent you a PM, so you wouldn't miss it........but got NOTHING BACK FROM YOU...............Your welcome, but it won't ever happen again .....Mike

[Rogue Hawk]

The tolls for trikes are more than double for a tire than that of a car or motorcycle. For example, trikes pay $23.50 R/T on the Tappan Zee (peak) versus $9.50 for cars.

I would leave New York in a heartbeat if I was offered a job elsewhere. I don't live in New York City. But, I have to pay a New York City income tax thanks to Cuomo and Blumberg!

John

Update 2/26/16: I got a call from the NY Thruway Authority today. The person said he agrees with me totally. He has no idea where that classification came from. They will change it in the next few days. A motorcycle should be charged the same whether it is 2 or three wheels. Anyone who was overcharged will get a refund.

John

If you complain, the politicians will likely just raise the toll on two wheelers to match trikes. That is how they think 'fair' works.

[wyliec]

WOW !!!.... I posted the answer yesterday....plus I sent you a PM, so you wouldn't miss it........but got NOTHING BACK FROM YOU...............Your welcome, but it won't ever happen again .....Mike

Mike,

Don't get too upset. It happens quite a bit on any forum where someone asks a question, and it's answered , and not a peep from the OP. What's worse is when you respond, and someone later responds with the same answer and is thanked, and you are not. I appreciate your answer in the other thread, which the OP may have missed.

[wyliec]

If you complain, the politicians will likely just raise the toll on two wheelers to match trikes. That is how they think 'fair' works.

He did complain, and he now said he's getting a refund.

[Bob Denman]

Mike just needs a little "Snickers Break"... :thumbup:


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124831&stc=1

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Mike just needs a little "Snickers Break"... :thumbup:


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124831&stc=1
No Bob, I already posted my solution and have helped someone else ....:clap:Mike :thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

No Bob, I already posted my solution and have helped someone else ....:clap:Mike :thumbup:

And for that; you have earned....

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124834&stc=1

:clap::clap::clap: :2thumbs:

[Ronda815]

And here I thought the women in my crafting group were snippy! You guys are funny! I needed that laugh, Bob

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[Bob Denman]

:welcome: It's just what I do best... :roflblack:
Sometimes; we can ALL use a Snickers Break!



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[Synthetic]

You Yanks still using those little white boxes!!Your DMV needs to upgrade.Here in BC Canada we use an electronic decal that does the same signal process.It sticks to your headlight on a bike or under the mirror on the windshield of a car.Has a real tiny electronic chip in it for toll bridges.


And when did Canada go to the moon? Just sayin.... hehehehe

[ta-kid]

And when did Canada go to the moon? Just sayin.... hehehehe
Remember now ,lots of the parts in your space program was developed and built by Canadians,Just like your Can AM!Just Sayin :)

[Gray Ghost]

You Yanks still using those little white boxes!!Your DMV needs to upgrade.Here in BC Canada we use an electronic decal that does the same signal process.It sticks to your headlight on a bike or under the mirror on the windshield of a car.Has a real tiny electronic chip in it for toll bridges.

I have one of those from the Florida Sunpass, I also have a box from Florida Sunpass and NY EZPass. I like the Florida box better because I can switch it between vehicles. The sticker is on my pickup and cannot be easily moved.

[Synthetic]

Remember now ,lots of the parts in your space program was developed and built by Canadians,Just like your Can AM!Just Sayin :)


Ok then, I need to rephrase the question.....When did Canada go to the Moon? hehehehhehe