Flying With Proper Identification

[Bob Denman]

:dontknow: Does anybody know when these enhanced regulations are taking effect?
Four States have driver's licenses that don't pass muster: New York is one of them! :gaah:
The Missus might need to fly out to San Francisco in May, and we're trying to figure out what sort of aggravation all of this is going to cause... :shocked:

[mowin]

My cousin and his wife flew to Florida few weeks ago. They have the enhanced license. Don't believe they needed passports.

[wyliec]

My cousin and his wife flew to Florida few weeks ago. They have the enhanced license. Don't believe they needed passports.

What is the enhanced license?

[Bob Denman]

That's one of the options that we're looking at.
Thanks! :thumbup:

[wyliec]

That's one of the options that we're looking at.
Thanks! :thumbup:

If you're traveling within the U.S., why would you need the enhanced driver's license?

[Bob Denman]

...New TSA identification rules... :gaah:

[wyliec]

...New TSA identification rules... :gaah:

Bob,


Here are the dates for enhanced driver's license requirements. I actually hadn't heard about it previously until mentioned here.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Don't we also need enhanced TSA agents, one's who don't steal & can think?

[wyliec]

Don't we also need enhanced TSA agents, one's who don't steal & can think?

Do you mean ones that don't pat down 10 year olds?

[Bob Denman]

From what I've been able to learn so far; the enhanced identification requirements apply to folks over 18...

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Do you mean ones that don't pat down 10 year olds?

those are called priests :yikes:

[gkamer]

:dontknow: Does anybody know when these enhanced regulations are taking effect?
Four States have driver's licenses that don't pass muster: New York is one of them! :gaah:
The Missus might need to fly out to San Francisco in May, and we're trying to figure out what sort of aggravation all of this is going to cause... :shocked:

By law they have to give 180 days notice prior to anything going into effect. Even so, you probably won't see any serious action taken on this at least until 2017 at the earliest.

[oldguyinTX]

It is called RealID. Some military installations will not let you enter (if you are a civilian) unless you have one. IN CT, a yellow star is put on your driver's license. To get it, you have to go to the DMV (always a pleasure) with your existing license, certified U.S. birth certificate (NOT just a copy) or current U.S. Passport, SS card, W-2, or 1099 with SS number, & 2 proofs of residency from two different sources of the state that you live in, i.e. mortgage statement, bank statement, Medicare benefit statement, SS benefits statement dated within the last 12 months property tax bill, motor vehicle registration, and postmarked mail, among other things. Any two of these will do. Note that photocopies, notarized photocopies, and non-certified copies are not acceptable. It's not strictly enforced yet, but will be, I think, in 2017. My daughter flew to California last month from Newark, and had no problems. Hope this helps.

EDIT: But, as always, check the requirements for the state that you live in. I just supplied the documents, they scanned and stored them, took my picture, and I got the new license. I wasn't asked any questions, and it really wasn't a hassle.

[gkamer]

What is the enhanced license?

It's a drivers license that shows proof of citizenship. I got one when I renewed my license here in Washington. You have to make an appointment for an interview. Then on the appointment day you have to bring your birth certificate with you. I don't recall the questions they asked me, but the interview only took like 15 minutes. The license will display a small US flag emblem to verify your country of citizenship. There is also a digitally encoded copy of your photograph which can't be faked. TSA and border agents can scan your license and see the decoded picture to ensure it matches you. In addition, it serves as a passport for entry into both Canada and Mexico.

[Chupaca]

:dontknow: Does anybody know when these enhanced regulations are taking effect?
Four States have driver's licenses that don't pass muster: New York is one of them! :gaah:
The Missus might need to fly out to San Francisco in May, and we're trying to figure out what sort of aggravation all of this is going to cause... :shocked:

According to the list your state is still good to go through October of this year (2016) as are we here in CA. We do have passports for back up. Easy to get good to have cause you never know who will get elected and you need to run...:roflblack::roflblack:

[oldguyinTX]

Bob, this should help.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-and-you-rumor-control

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-public-faqs

https://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they

[Bob Denman]

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124574&stc=1

[ARtraveler]

I read about that also. I am thinking that they will not start enforcing it because then the discrimination lawsuits will start up.

[Cruzr Joe]

They should require a REAL ID to vote.


Cruzr Joe

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

I read about that also. I am thinking that they will not start enforcing it because then the discrimination lawsuits will start up.

What discrimination? much like driving, flying is a privilege not a right.
not crashing & getting back your luggage, that might be a right.

[IGETAROUND]

:dontknow: Does anybody know when these enhanced regulations are taking effect?
Four States have driver's licenses that don't pass muster: New York is one of them! :gaah:
The Missus might need to fly out to San Francisco in May, and we're trying to figure out what sort of aggravation all of this is going to cause... :shocked:

Actually they do; this is from Homeland securities Q&A site about these changes::

Q: New York, Vermont, Michigan, and Washington currently issue "enhanced driver's licenses" (EDLs) that are designated by the Secretary of Homeland Security as acceptable to enter the United States at land and sea ports of entry in accordance with the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI). Are EDLs acceptable for official federal purposes such as boarding a commercial aircraft?
A: Yes. State EDLs designated as acceptable border-crossing documents by DHS under WHTI are acceptable for official federal purposes such as boarding a commercial aircraft or entering a federal facility.

:thumbup::thumbup:

[Bob Denman]

We still have the "Non-Enhanced" versions... :opps:
But it's probably cheaper to upgrade the licenses, than it is to obtain a Passport.

[M109Dreamer]

They should require a REAL ID to vote.


Cruzr Joe
Ding...ding...ding.
Funny how you need the new ID to fly not to vote. If the govt req this to vote, I think it would change the elections forever. AZ tried to pass that law, which they did. But the feds came back at the state and said you cannot require proof of citizenship to vote for federal election just state elections. Funny how the lib's jumped right in to stop that.

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[Frank G]

The first time I flew (about 1966 United Air Lines) I was greeted at the door and escorted to my seat, Given a adult cocktail, matches and cigerates. It's been downhill ever since. :shocked:

[wyliec]

The first time I flew (about 1966 United Air Lines) I was greeted at the door and escorted to my seat, Given a adult cocktail, matches and cigerates. It's been downhill ever since. :shocked:

I agree. Do you remember what the stewardess looked like back then?

[ARtraveler]

What discrimination? much like driving, flying is a privilege not a right.
not crashing & getting back your luggage, that might be a right.

Time will tell. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: If I come from state X and cant fly--but the people from state Y can...???

[Frank G]

I agree. Do you remember what the stewardess looked like back then?

I was 20 years old and heading to Philadelphia Navel Base, They all looked good in uniform as they were hand selected to fit them well. :ohyea: I remember my sisters applying for stewardess training, for what ever reason none of them went.

[IGETAROUND]

We still have the "Non-Enhanced" versions... :opps:
But it's probably cheaper to upgrade the licenses, than it is to obtain a Passport.

In Michigan at least they are half the price of a passport. How ever a passport is good for ten years and the EDL is only good for four years so the total cost is less @ 10 years then 2.5 renewals of the EDL.

[IGETAROUND]

I agree. Do you remember what the stewardess looked like back then?

Yes I do, most of them are still flying today:yikes::yikes: Just kidding

We all don't age as well and look different that we did in the 60's :ohyea::ohyea::ohyea:

[bmccaffrey]

Just get a passport.
Simple process less then 90 days

[flaggerphil]

...In addition, it serves as a passport for entry into both Canada and Mexico.

Only by land or sea. If you fly in to either Canada or Mexico you need a passport.

[IGETAROUND]

Only by land or sea. If you fly in to either Canada or Mexico you need a passport.,actually I was told that Mi EDL is good for Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean area. No prohibition to air travel to these places :cheers::yes::thumbup: