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yamahog
09-10-2015, 10:25 AM
So for the first time I decided to hand wash my RT. I have always just used detailing spray before, this time I got the bucket and car wash soap out to do a deep clean. Ooops! Now the bike will not start, it cranks, I smell fuel, and I am getting spark.... Anyone have any ideas? It has been blown dry inside and out with the panels off and air dried for two days. I am totally stumped. Oh, and no pressure washer, just the water hose for rinsing, but I did get dash area pretty wet. :dontknow:

ottawa-rider
09-10-2015, 10:32 AM
I've always done that with no problems, I do use a gentle mist spray around the dash to rinse.

My guest is that you have a different issue, if you smell gas, it may be flooded.

Have you tried holding the throttle wide open while cranking the engine.

trikermutha
09-10-2015, 10:33 AM
I always wash my bike by hand..Just guessing have you checked for water under your fuse covers?? Or any blown fuses?? :dontknow:

garb55
09-10-2015, 10:35 AM
I have used a pressure washer on my 2008 GS and now on my 2014 RTL many times
The only thing I do is to remove the key
I once had the check engine light come on until everything dried out
I just do not hit the dash and the switches up close with pressure washer now and everything is fine
Don

Chupaca
09-10-2015, 10:50 AM
try the throttle wide open (TWO) method. Hold the throttle wide open and crank for a few seconds to clear the cylinders. The release and try normal starting proceedure. Check kill switch, flip it a few times gently blow air around it. Hope that will get you going...:thumbup:

yamahog
09-10-2015, 11:04 AM
Tried wide open throttle but being drive by wire don't think that does anything till it starts, pulled plugs they where wet so cleaned them but no difference, course if they did foul they are probably shot, laid plug on frame and cranked there is spark, checked all the fuses all good there, reseated all relays no difference,checked all the main harness connectors, no sign of water, now have bike on charger will try again in hour or so, bike was running perfect till I washed it so guess if I get it running again ill have to leave bugs and dirt on it to keep it running LOL.:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::bangh ead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Brentc
09-10-2015, 11:07 AM
Did you by chance hit the kill switch when washing?

yamahog
09-10-2015, 11:10 AM
Did you by chance hit the kill switch when washing?

Nope, mine will not crank at all with kill switch in kill position, my engine spins over fine just not firing.

billybovine
09-10-2015, 11:18 AM
Tried wide open throttle but being drive by wire don't think that does anything till it starts, pulled plugs they where wet so cleaned them but no difference, course if they did foul they are probably shot, laid plug on frame and cranked there is spark, checked all the fuses all good there, reseated all relays no difference,checked all the main harness connectors, no sign of water, now have bike on charger will try again in hour or so, bike was running perfect till I washed it so guess if I get it running again ill have to leave bugs and dirt on it to keep it running LOL.:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::bangh ead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Wide open throttle will turn the fuel injectors off. The throttle must be held wide open before pressing the start button. Crank engine for 20 to 30 seconds. No longer than 30 then allow the starter to cool for 1 minute. Then do it again.

Cruzr Joe
09-10-2015, 11:24 AM
One more suggestion ..................... remove all keys from the spyder at least 5 feet away for at least 2 minutes to give computer time to fully shut down. then try to restart it.


Cruzr Joe

yamahog
09-10-2015, 11:52 AM
One more suggestion ..................... remove all keys from the spyder at least 5 feet away for at least 2 minutes to give computer time to fully shut down. then try to restart it.


Cruzr Joe
I know that can work, but spyder was keyless for two days and repeatedly keyless for 30 min to hour since then.

yamahog
09-10-2015, 12:14 PM
Well don't know if wide open throttle did it, or just something dried out, I had already cleared cylinders while I had plugs out, but didn't seem to make a difference, went back and tried the wide-open throttle for full 30 then retried start and it started, though a little ruff running at first, guess I will order another set of plugs. I still don't see why washing the bike would cause the plugs to foul, there was no sign of water intrusion on coils or anywhere else under the tupperware, so maybe just a weird coincidence? I was an auto and diesel mechanic for years, plus built all my first bikes from basket cases, and this machine just loves to stump me.

Thanks everyone for your patience and quick replies.:bowdown::bowdown::yes::yes::yes:

Bob Denman
09-10-2015, 12:24 PM
:clap: Glad to hear that you got it back up and running!
BTW; even though the bike is throttle by wire... holding the throttle to the wide-open position works, because the electrical system has been switched to "On". The throttle position sensor is getting juice, and telling the throttle bodies that you're asking for everything that she's got... :2thumbs:***


*** which it interprets as a call to shut down the injectors in an attempt to clear out the bike's throat...

Orange Spyder Man
09-10-2015, 12:39 PM
did you remember to put your spyder's "bathing suit" on before washing ??? :roflblack:

osm

ARtraveler
09-10-2015, 03:50 PM
Have also experienced similar. When washing I use very light spray and try to keep it out of the electronics or even under the Tupperware.

I hand wash the dash with a damp cloth and chamois dry quickly.

The :spyder2: seems to not like being washed. Why this does not happen in the rain--only the :ani29: knows. :dontknow::dontknow:

billybovine
09-10-2015, 04:01 PM
One more suggestion ..................... remove all keys from the spyder at least 5 feet away for at least 2 minutes to give computer time to fully shut down. then try to restart it.


Cruzr Joe

This magical key walk myth just won't go away. You forgot the part about doing the Hokey Pokey while waiting.

The DESS does not look for the key after the ignition is turned off. No need to remove the key at all.
The key transponder has a maximum range of 1 inch. Simply removing the key from the ignition switch it is out of range. 5 feet is just ridiculous.
Fault codes that reset after a power down will do so in 30 seconds as clearly explained in the service manual.

billybovine
09-10-2015, 04:03 PM
I have removed the tupperware and wash the engine down with a water hose and did not have any trouble starting. If the problem is truly from getting wet. It's broke and time to get it fixed before it leaves you stranded.

BikerDoc
09-10-2015, 04:57 PM
I have washed my Spyders many times with a full garden hose spray nozzle and bucket of soapy water - thoroughly drenching it, and never had any problem starting it afterwards

Bob Denman
09-10-2015, 05:31 PM
When I'm running the garden hose, I avoid the switches and control panel on the Spyder. :thumbup:

trikermutha
09-10-2015, 05:41 PM
man I shoot water all over mine and have no issues..May want to have it checked out as other have stated..:thumbup:

jerpinoy
09-10-2015, 05:45 PM
Your :spyder2: may have some cat DNA no shower please:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :roflblack::roflblack:. I'm glad you got her going again.