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NorCalBud
03-25-2015, 04:55 PM
I recently added the all the lights listed in my Signature to my 12 RTL. I only got the fast blink once I added the mirror strips. I have them currently disconnected but want to use them and also add another set connected to the rear signals to put under the passenger handles. I also bought a Underground Halo kit not added yet. It was suggested that I add resistors. I'm willing to throw a couple of bucks at an easier solution (never soldered before) if it's worth it....
Can I use one of these instead? If so, which one?
http://www.customled.com/collections/electronic-led-flasher-relays

The also have something called a "Load equalizer". Is that the same as resistors (doesn't seem so, but need to ask)? The only light I've preplaced with LED was the Fender Tip Light. Everything else has been added.
http://www.customled.com/collections/universal-led-load-equalizers

Thanks for the input!

Phil
03-25-2015, 05:59 PM
NorCalBud-

I have added HUNDREDS of LEDs to two RTs in the past 4 years. I have never added in a resistor. I connect straight to a fused 12vdc line.

Now... having said that, I HAVE added a separate fuse box to make finding and isolating problems much easier.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?70311-Phil-s-2014-%28neww%29-DARTH-Mods

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-25-2015, 07:00 PM
NorCalBud-

I have added HUNDREDS of LEDs to two RTs in the past 4 years. I have never added in a resistor. I connect straight to a fused 12vdc line.

Now... having said that, I HAVE added a separate fuse box to make finding and isolating problems much easier.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?70311-Phil-s-2014-%28neww%29-DARTH-Mods

:agree:............Me too...........my trailer has LED's and that didn't cause any problems either.....Mike :thumbup:

Bogie
03-26-2015, 11:36 AM
You do not need resistors the slow the flash rate. There is a procedure to reset the flasher using the 4 way button. Search this site for the word "flasher" (not the naked kind either) and you will find the procedure.
I had the same problem when I installed the LED strips on my mirrors.


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NorCalBud
03-26-2015, 03:32 PM
You do not need resistors the slow the flash rate. There is a procedure to reset the flasher using the 4 way button. Search this site for the word "flasher" (not the naked kind either) and you will find the procedure.
I had the same problem when I installed the LED strips on my mirrors.


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Thanks Bogie, but I tried the "procedure" when I added the lights, but it didn't work. I think because I have a '12 and that works on newer models.

Marker
03-26-2015, 04:11 PM
The year of your spyder does not make a difference . Phil had a 2010 RT and added 100's of lights to it with no problems.
Check your connections for proper positive and negative wire connections. I added LED to my 2010 RT S with no problems.

Dragonfly
03-26-2015, 07:13 PM
So I added the mirror LED strips and replaced the front Fender reflectors with LEDs and added the flasher kit. My 2013 turn signal due flash faster but what is the big deal? I think it's more noticeable with a faster flash.

finless
03-26-2015, 07:25 PM
Only the 2014 and above have the procedure to calibrate the cluster flasher unit and fix the fast flash!

If you hook LEDS to the turn signals AT the connectors for the existing turn signals, add enough LEDs and you will get a fast flash PERIOD GUYS!

So first... you guys with 2014's and above, you cannot relate to this issue as you can calibrate it. 2013 and below cannot!

Phil must have done it another way to not get a fast flash on his 2012. But for sure on Phil's 2012 had he added TURN SIGNAL LEDS to the mirrors, saddle bags, and front fenders, (e.g. the tric-leds or Show chrome units) you will get a fast flash if you hook them up per the maker of those units! Again Phil must have done something different for the turn signals on his 2012 if he did not get a fast flash, or did not hook enough of them up to his turn signals to get there.

You guys with 2013 and below, I would be curious how many LED lights you added to turn signals. You can add some and not get a fast flash. But add too many and you will... BEEN THERE DONE THAT! And yes I had to add a resistor to at least one set to stop the fast flash.

Bob

gypsy_100
03-31-2015, 03:01 PM
You guys with 2013 and below, I would be curious how many LED lights you added to turn signals. You can add some and not get a fast flash. But add too many and you will... BEEN THERE DONE THAT! And yes I had to add a resistor to at least one set to stop the fast flash.

Bob

LED strips shown below added with no problem whatsoever. 2011 RT.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104584&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104585&stc=1

finless
03-31-2015, 03:20 PM
LED strips shown below added with no problem whatsoever. 2011 RT.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104584&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104585&stc=1

Again, adding one strip like this probably wont induce a fast flash! I did not have a problem when I first got my Spyder and added exactly what you did.

Add more like front fender turn signal lights, saddle bag turn signal lights and eventually you will get a fast flash.
2014 and above can recalibrate! 2013 and below cannot.

I do not understand why this is so miss-understood?

Your example is a simple strip on each side and you are correct, it did not cause an issue. Did not for me when I did that too. Add more and you will see eventually when you do, it will cause a fast flash.

Bob

finless
03-31-2015, 03:21 PM
By the way, red turn signals in some states are illegal unless you have a vintage vehicle.

Bob

BLUEKNIGHT911
03-31-2015, 06:34 PM
LED strips shown below added with no problem whatsoever. 2011 RT.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104584&stc=1http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104585&stc=1

:yes:...................I'm curious , with that many LED's are you still able to see anything in the mirror at night when you are signaling.????...Mike :thumbup:

finless
03-31-2015, 07:31 PM
Can I just say :yikes:

I will leave it at that.... :(


Bob

NorCalBud
04-01-2015, 02:42 PM
I thank everyone for their input.
Bob is right (as usual!). I had originally installed the mirror lights with no quick flashing, but once I added all of the other lights, I got the quick flash. If left disconnected they blink correctly.

However, the original question asking if I could get a Relay to fix the issue (or which relay) instead of resistor remains unanswered. I'm assuming that the answer would be no. So....back to plan A and soldering!

gypsy_100
04-01-2015, 03:18 PM
By the way, red turn signals in some states are illegal unless you have a vintage vehicle.

Bob

Not red -- the true color is amber, just looks red in the photo.

finless
04-01-2015, 07:03 PM
I thank everyone for their input.
Bob is right (as usual!). I had originally installed the mirror lights with no quick flashing, but once I added all of the other lights, I got the quick flash. If left disconnected they blink correctly.

However, the original question asking if I could get a Relay to fix the issue (or which relay) instead of resistor remains unanswered. I'm assuming that the answer would be no. So....back to plan A and soldering!



A relay may work but I do not know if the relay coil would make the cluster fast flash also. You would have to trial and error testing different relays with different induction values. Years ago I probably could have done the match e.g. Convert a resistive load to a coil inductance but I don't remember how to do it anymore and would have to study it again.

Bob

Phil
04-02-2015, 12:07 AM
Bob-

Good thpught on the coil vs resistor. I feel your pain remembering Circuits 401!!

My secret, in general, is a TDR- Time Delay Relay. And a little wiring wizardry. I think I did a post about it longer ago than I can remember ;)