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SDM
02-04-2015, 11:59 AM
I work nights ryding through some of the not nicest neighborhoods in the world. I have also taken trips out of town by myself. Need some wisdom from fellow ryders that carry. I am working towards getting my license and saving up to purchase a weapon. I am leaning towards a S & W Model 60, chambers either .38 or .357. Where do you carry? In a holster on your person, in a bag on top of the glove box, in a holder on top of the dash, etc.??? I know a revolver makes it not as easy to conceal. I hope and :pray: to not be in a situation that I would need it - however, the crap does occasionally hit the fan. Any suggestions and words of wisdom would be most welcome! :chat:

Bob Denman
02-04-2015, 12:36 PM
2" or 3" barrel? :dontknow:
Get the "Rounded Butt" version: it'll make the grip area a bit more compact.
Since I rarely tuck in my shirts; I'm a big fan of carrying a handgun in a "small of the back" style holster.
(Mine is from Galco)
My Colt 1911A-1 happily rides back there, and is virtually unnoticeable. :thumbup:

MEP
02-04-2015, 12:56 PM
I work nights ryding through some of the not nicest neighborhoods in the world. I have also taken trips out of town by myself. Need some wisdom from fellow that carry. I am working towards getting my license and saving up to purchase a weapon. I am leaning towards a S & W Model 60, chambers either .38 or .357. Where do you carry? In a holster on your person, in a bag on top of the glove box, in a holder on top of the dash, etc.??? I know a revolver makes it not as easy to conceal. I hope and :pray: to not be in a situation that I would need it - however, the crap does occasionally hit the fan. Any suggestions and words of wisdom would be most welcome! :chat:

I would not carry a handgun in any sort of bag or other arrangement affixed to the bike, if your primary goal is to protect yourself or passenger from death or great bodily harm. If you are separated from the bike (say, for an example, as in a vehicular hijacking or some other attack that knocks or otherwise causes you to be off the bike), your handgun is worthless to you and may well fall into the hands of your assailant. A handgun properly and securely concealed on your person remains under your control and subject only to your commands. Whatever you decide to do, make sure that you are always fully compliant with the laws of any jurisdiction that you may be riding in.

SDM
02-04-2015, 12:57 PM
3 inch barrel - grip does look rounded101696

Bob Denman
02-04-2015, 01:32 PM
While I'm also NOT a fan of packing the handgun away: Gloria LeMaster makes some gorgeous carry-concealed handbags...
The Missus has a pair of them! :thumbup:
Check with Galco, and see if they've got an "SOB" holster that'll work for you.


EDIT: I just checked Galco's site, and they don't offer an SOB holster for a 3" barreled J-Frame...

Pennyrick
02-04-2015, 01:35 PM
I work nights ryding through some of the not nicest neighborhoods in the world. I have also taken trips out of town by myself. Need some wisdom from fellow ryders that carry. I am working towards getting my license and saving up to purchase a weapon. I am leaning towards a S & W Model 60, chambers either .38 or .357. Where do you carry? In a holster on your person, in a bag on top of the glove box, in a holder on top of the dash, etc.??? I know a revolver makes it not as easy to conceal. I hope and :pray: to not be in a situation that I would need it - however, the crap does occasionally hit the fan. Any suggestions and words of wisdom would be most welcome! :chat:


Here are our traveling companions of choice.

Hers (left) is a S&W .357 Magnum that she keeps in a slide holster belted around her waist.

Mine is a Sig Sauer 938 9 mm. I keep mine in the inside pocket of my leather jacket in cooler weather and in summer months in a waist holster that slides on my belt.

Both are lightweight although the S&W is a bit heavier. She also has LadySmith .38 that is a bit lighter but the kickback from a very light hand gun makes it hard for her to stay on target.

MMMII
02-04-2015, 01:43 PM
My carry system of choice is a Glock 26 carried in my waist band. I prefer the horsehide crossbreed supertuck deluxe holster.

It's comfortable and doesn't print which is a ++++.

Bob Denman
02-04-2015, 02:57 PM
http://www.galcogunleather.com/

pitzerwm
02-04-2015, 03:07 PM
Something to think about, find a gun class that results in a Utah concealed permit, its good in 30+ states. I've carried for 30 years 99% on my body. I picked up a "specialty gun" that shoots a bullet that will tear off an arm if you hit them in the finger. Its only 4" long. I also have a 2" 38 near by.

SPYD3R
02-04-2015, 03:07 PM
NO MOTORCYCLE RIDERS, TRUCK DRIVERS, etc. carry a weapon.....
ssssssssssh boy...

9mm semi-auto load if you happen to really need one... Kel-Tec PF9 is a good one... with a 'belt clip'.... but heck, i'm just guessing here.....
Dan P
Certified Advanced Small Arms Instructor, NRA
SPYD3R

Bob Denman
02-04-2015, 03:11 PM
Me too.:thumbup: Got certified back in the late eighties...
101702

Mt-man
02-04-2015, 03:18 PM
<img src="http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/frontend/default/theme248/images/logo.png" alt="Alien Gear Holsters" /> (http://aliengearholsters.com/)

SpyderLady
02-04-2015, 03:41 PM
Something to think about, find a gun class that results in a Utah concealed permit, its good in 30+ states. I've carried for 30 years 99% on my body. I picked up a "specialty gun" that shoots a bullet that will tear off an arm if you hit them in the finger. Its only 4" long. I also have a 2" 38 near by.

The only problem with the Utah (which I had) is that I cannot renew unless I have a CCW from my home state. Thus, I just gave up on the Utah one and went and got my MO one.

ChicoFowler
02-04-2015, 03:44 PM
If you can handle the kickback, go for the 357. Or try using the 38 special in your 357...(some can handle both)

Read this.....very good information for self defense:
http://gundata.org/blog/post/best-handgun-caliber-and-round-for-self-defense/

Dragonfly
02-04-2015, 04:03 PM
I have found that this http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/ is the best holster for all around use. I tuck the plug end of my ear buds under the flap and it looks like a big phone case. I have one sized for Kahr PM9 and another for the XD40 Sub Compact that also fits the Taurus .357 snub nose DAO.

Bob Denman
02-04-2015, 06:06 PM
If you can handle the kickback, go for the 357. Or try using the 38 special in your 357...(some can handle both)

Read this.....very good information for self defense:
http://gundata.org/blog/post/best-handgun-caliber-and-round-for-self-defense/
:shocked::hun:
Just carry whichever one you can shoot the best; the round itself is only a secondary concern... :thumbup:

ulflyer
02-04-2015, 06:40 PM
I've been at it for 60 years and here's my thoughts: If you've not done any/much shooting you need to go to a range where they rent guns and try out several types to see what feels best to you. If necessary, get someone there to tutor you a bit. I wouldn't suggest starting out with a heavy weapon unless you are certain you can carry that comfortably all day.

Then consider how you want to carry it. I use OWB as about anything bigger than a tiny 380 sags my pockets too much. If you use OWB holster, get a wide stiff belt. Makes it way more comfortable.

For a newbi, a revolver is hard to beat. Its gonna fire every time you pull the trigger. Most autoloaders do too, but can
be more problematic for beginners.

I carried a Ruger LCR 38spl for a good while....very light, can shoot +P bullets. Stings the hand, even with regular loads, but does the job. A five shot, very lightweight, about 17 oz. ABout $350.

I recently transitioned back into autoloaders. Lots of excellent ones out there. One I used was a Ruger LC9s...a 9mm, 17oz empty, fires any bullet without fail, right out of the box. Hard to beat product. About $360.

I'm currently carrying, at various times, 3 Kahr's: a 380, 9mm, 45acp. Holds 7, 8, 7 bullets. About 12, 17 & 21 oz empty. I like their long smooth trigger. They are not for everyone and can be problematic until they've been shot a lot to break-in. I had no issues with any of mine, but a few folks do. Each of these cost from $340-375 approx.

Another outstanding 9mm also in the 17oz range is the S&W Shield. Gets rave reviews on gun forums. About $360 also.

Same weight but less expensive and gets good reviews is the Bursa Thunder 380. Made in Argentina or Brazil I think. Under $300. Find used for $250 or less.

Don't underestimate the 380. It will penetrate gelatin 8-10 inches. I can carry mine all day and not know its there. The 9mm carry's well too but you know you've got more weight and have to hitch the belt a notch tighter.

Get on Highroad gun forum and start reading up. Go to gun shows and fondle the products.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Rockwall
02-04-2015, 07:52 PM
Glock .40

SNOOPY
02-04-2015, 08:12 PM
I have found that this http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/ is the best holster for all around use. I tuck the plug end of my ear buds under the flap and it looks like a big phone case. I have one sized for Kahr PM9 and another for the XD40 Sub Compact that also fits the Taurus .357 snub nose DAO.

I use the Sneaky Pete holsters too. :thumbup:


One thing to add to this thread is once you get your gun and permit, don't forget to get some frequent range time in.

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SDM
02-04-2015, 08:21 PM
I've been at it for 60 years and here's my thoughts: If you've not done any/much shooting you need to go to a range where they rent guns and try out several types to see what feels best to you. If necessary, get someone there to tutor you a bit. I wouldn't suggest starting out with a heavy weapon unless you are certain you can carry that comfortably all day.

Then consider how you want to carry it. I use OWB as about anything bigger than a tiny 380 sags my pockets too much. If you use OWB holster, get a wide stiff belt. Makes it way more comfortable.

For a newbi, a revolver is hard to beat. Its gonna fire every time you pull the trigger. Most autoloaders do too, but can
be more problematic for beginners.

I carried a Ruger LCR 38spl for a good while....very light, can shoot +P bullets. Stings the hand, even with regular loads, but does the job. A five shot, very lightweight, about 17 oz. ABout $350.

I recently transitioned back into autoloaders. Lots of excellent ones out there. One I used was a Ruger LC9s...a 9mm, 17oz empty, fires any bullet without fail, right out of the box. Hard to beat product. About $360.

I'm currently carrying, at various times, 3 Kahr's: a 380, 9mm, 45acp. Holds 7, 8, 7 bullets. About 12, 17 & 21 oz empty. I like their long smooth trigger. They are not for everyone and can be problematic until they've been shot a lot to break-in. I had no issues with any of mine, but a few folks do. Each of these cost from $340-375 approx.

Another outstanding 9mm also in the 17oz range is the S&W Shield. Gets rave reviews on gun forums. About $360 also.

Same weight but less expensive and gets good reviews is the Bursa Thunder 380. Made in Argentina or Brazil I think. Under $300. Find used for $250 or less.

Don't underestimate the 380. It will penetrate gelatin 8-10 inches. I can carry mine all day and not know its there. The 9mm carry's well too but you know you've got more weight and have to hitch the belt a notch tighter.

Get on Highroad gun forum and start reading up. Go to gun shows and fondle the products.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

I'm going to a place called Quickshot. Shot the .38/.357 Saturday. Will try the semi auto this coming Saturday. The reason for the revolver is: The hubby (Tobor 9) had a semi auto that he was plinking with one day. He pulled the trigger and it went full auto on him!!!:yikes: Pretty much scared the crap out of him. Of course, that was a long time ago and things have changed since then in the use of materials.

Mad Mac
02-04-2015, 08:22 PM
When my wife and I travel,I carry(were I'm legal)and even when alone, a 9mm S&W M&P sheild in a soft IWB BLACKHAWK #1 holster. Problem I worry about is being in a crash and being thrown due to the fact that this holster is very comfortable wearing my riding gear but has no retention device and heaven forbid someone else finds my weopon. No problems as of yet and I hope it stays that way. Good Luck and Stay Safe!

DJFaninTN
02-04-2015, 08:41 PM
the real answer is carry whatever you feel comfortable with and that you have qualified with. then practice, practice and more practice.

if you looking a semi's then I'd look at Glock or S&W M&P. I owned a lot of guns over the years. I loved my Glocks ... well until I ended up getting a S&W Shield in 9mm. I really, really like this gun and it's hard to beat the price. IMO it's far superior to the Ruger LC9 (which I owned for about 3 months before selling it). It is super easy to carry concealed.

as far as holsters you need to try several before you find one that you like. whether you are going IWB (inside the waist band) or OWB (outside the waist band). while the weather is nice and cold, I am always wearing a jacket so I have opted for going with a shoulder holster while riding. In the warmer months I normally go with an OWB and just leave my shirt tail out or wear a banded bottom shirt. for work I normally go with an IWB because my shirt is tucked in. you have to learn how to dress while carrying and it does take some practice. you also have to decide if you want leather, kydex or a hybrid (combination of both).

and once you get your holster then you need to go to the range and practice using it. remember you are most likely going to be in a sitting position while on the bike and that changes how you may draw your gun.

one last thing I will tell you. buy yourself a REAL belt to support your holster. if you go cheap then you are going to hate carrying because it will not be comfortable. I have one gun belt that I've had now for 10 years and I wear it several times a week. It still looks great. might want to check out thebeltman.net to see what I am talking about.

rcantrell52
02-05-2015, 09:51 AM
An earlier response mentioned the Sig Sauer P938 9MM. I would agree with this choice or a Beretta PX4 Storm 9MM. I have both of these pistols.
Reese

MSGTDOC
02-05-2015, 11:24 AM
I have two different riding vests. One leather and the other denim. Both are gun vests. Keeps my 45 secure.

Roadster Renovations
02-05-2015, 12:05 PM
I will say this: I try to avoid areas where trouble can occur, but that is not always possible. I have been trying to come up with some "goodies".
I have two items of interest for personal protection in the works. One is a means to carry concealed and have access right at hand and the other is a non lethal force option. I'll post more when we get things ready! I am especially excited about the non-lethal option.

jimnsusie
02-05-2015, 01:35 PM
Lot of good info here. I believe in protection. We should be able and ready to take care of business. As a retired state police officer I have learned to practice personal safety whether packing or not

SAPD911
02-05-2015, 02:20 PM
My .380 Ruger fits perfectly in the spyder front cubby. I used this for long trips. Just don't forget to take it out, :)

Orange Spyder Man
02-05-2015, 02:20 PM
I have had my CCW permit for over 40 years... I carry either a Glock 26 in a Galco ankle holster or a Glock 19 inside my waistband in a KingTuk holster depending on my attire & weather... I strongly recommend if you plan to carry... do it 24/7 and everywhere that it is legal.. and be dam sure you can proficiently shoot your weapon..... your life and the life of your love ones will depend on your ability to eliminate a threat... the 2nd thing I put on in the morning is my weapon... and it is the last thing I take off at night ... I shoot over 2,000 rounds a month.. I participate in competition shooting matches every weekend so I hit what I shoot at..
Oh.. forgot to add one more thing... ALWAYS have a round in the chamber... an unloaded pistol is just a rock !! it takes about 2 to 3 seconds to rack a round in the chamber.. those few seconds may determine if you live or your assailant lives !
Happy Hunting !

osm

Dan McNally
02-05-2015, 06:39 PM
My preferred method of carry is a shoulder holster, under my riding vest. That way, the gun is always in my possession, not on or in my Spyder, and possibly accessible to someone else, like an aggressor. I have a 2" barrel S&W Model 15 for this purpose . . . and because I like wheel guns.

SNOOPY
02-05-2015, 09:00 PM
My preferred method of carry is a shoulder holster, under my riding vest. That way, the gun is always in my possession, not on or in my Spyder, and possibly accessible to someone else, like an aggressor. I have a 2" barrel S&W Model 15 for this purpose . . . and because I like wheel guns.



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dbxray
02-05-2015, 09:31 PM
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I have found that this http://www.sneakypeteholsters.com/ is the best holster for all around use. I tuck the plug end of my ear buds under the flap and it looks like a big phone case. I have one sized for Kahr PM9 and another for the XD40 Sub Compact that also fits the Taurus .357 snub nose DAO.



I use the Sneaky Pete holsters too. :thumbup:



Ruger SR40C it easy to shoot and if you are a bad shot it hold 16

SNOOPY
02-05-2015, 09:58 PM
roflmao

dlby
02-06-2015, 04:15 AM
Legalheat.com is an app that tells you all states laws and if you can legally carry with your permitt in each state (reciprocity)

vided
02-06-2015, 06:40 AM
Ruger SR40C it easy to shoot and if you are a bad shot it hold 16[/QUOTE]


NOT IN NY:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::mad::ma d::mad:

gnirtsnod
02-06-2015, 07:10 AM
I take a Ruger LCP .380 with me every day. Most often in a pocket holster and inside my coat. In the summer it slips nicely into my back pocket. Double action semi-automatic. No safety but comfortable carrying chambered because of the deep trigger pull.

I also have the S&W model 60 - love it but extremely heavy; Model 19 Glock - won't carry chambered; and Springfield .45 Ultra Compact 1911 - I don't trust remembering the safety in a pressure situation. The LCP with hot loads is my choice. ...Don

P.S. I don't carry a chunk of steel in the small of my back after learning that an acquaintance broke his back after being thrown.

Roadster Renovations
02-06-2015, 03:22 PM
For those of you that carry concealed, we have a travel bag that we are now offering that has a concealed pocket and fits perfectly on the RT dash, between dash and windshield. We tested this setup in 16 States last year and it worked perfect. Easily detachable from the bike with both a carrying handle or a shoulder strap, it allowed me to carry my valuables and my electronic goodies away from the bike if we were stopping to visit something or getting something to eat. It even has a quick access area you can get to with gloves on that you can get toll money out. Made it super easy. We buy these from Targus and my wife does several hours of sewing to make them "Spyder-friendly. I will post a link as soon we get a few ready to sell.

SNOOPY
02-06-2015, 08:48 PM
For those of you that carry concealed, we have a travel bag that we are now offering that has a concealed pocket and fits perfectly on the RT dash, between dash and windshield. We tested this setup in 16 States last year and it worked perfect. Easily detachable from the bike with both a carrying handle or a shoulder strap, it allowed me to carry my valuables and my electronic goodies away from the bike if we were stopping to visit something or getting something to eat. It even has a quick access area you can get to with gloves on that you can get toll money out. Made it super easy. We buy these from Targus and my wife does several hours of sewing to make them "Spyder-friendly. I will post a link as soon we get a few ready to sell.



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Yazz
02-06-2015, 09:02 PM
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Doc Humphreys is a SpyderLovers sponsor.

SNOOPY
02-06-2015, 09:11 PM
Doc Humpreys company?


What company?


Sorry, some of us haven't been here for 8 years and don't know who has what company.

I see no company mentioned and nothing in his signature?

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DJFaninTN
02-06-2015, 09:44 PM
http://dochumphreys.wix.com/roadster

SNOOPY
02-06-2015, 09:47 PM
Thanks, now I know :thumbup:

Dan_Ashley
02-07-2015, 01:24 AM
If you carry:
1) make sure you get trained in combat shooting--start on a target range then go to a combat range.
2) make sure you shoot and re-train regularly. Ability to shoot is not like riding a bicycle--it takes constant practice.
3). Make sure you have it in your head that you can kill another person--not everyone can--and if you can't, there is no shame--just don't get a gun because someone will take it away from you an use it on you.
4) combat changes you, you must be prepared for that.
5). A small caliber gun is easier to handle than a large caliber--especially at the short distances in a combat situation. However, they do not make you feel as macho. A gun is a tool. A gun is not a statement.
6) decide if you might be better off with pepper spray. Remember you are unlikely to be assaulted--even in bad neighborhoods, and when you are monpving, ie. Not stopped at red lights, the liklihood of an assault drops even more.
7). By the way, did I stress training enough. Merely because someone was an excellent shot 15 years ago doesn't mean he is today.
8). If you get in a combat situation, make sure to watch the background where most of your bullets will end up--you probably don't want to injure a bystander.

Roadster Renovations
02-07-2015, 03:28 AM
http://roadsterrenovations.info
Sorry, will have pictures posted in the next day or two.

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SNOOPY
02-07-2015, 08:54 AM
http://roadsterrenovations.info
Sorry, will have pictures posted in the next day or two.


You should put the link in your signature since you are a sponsor here :D

Roadster Renovations
02-07-2015, 01:11 PM
If you carry:
1) make sure you get trained in combat shooting--start on a target range then go to a combat range.
2) make sure you shoot and re-train regularly. Ability to shoot is not like riding a bicycle--it takes constant practice.
3). Make sure you have it in your head that you can kill another person--not everyone can--and if you can't, there is no shame--just don't get a gun because someone will take it away from you an use it on you.
4) combat changes you, you must be prepared for that.
5). A small caliber gun is easier to handle than a large caliber--especially at the short distances in a combat situation. However, they do not make you feel as macho. A gun is a tool. A gun is not a statement.
6) decide if you might be better off with pepper spray. Remember you are unlikely to be assaulted--even in bad neighborhoods, and when you are monpving, ie. Not stopped at red lights, the liklihood of an assault drops even more.
7). By the way, did I stress training enough. Merely because someone was an excellent shot 15 years ago doesn't mean he is today.
8). If you get in a combat situation, make sure to watch the background where most of your bullets will end up--you probably don't want to injure a bystander.

Excellent advice!

Roadster Renovations
02-07-2015, 01:12 PM
You should put the link in your signature since you are a sponsor here :D

I know....I need to do that.

Magdave
02-07-2015, 02:17 PM
In my vest it has a holster built into the left inner pocket.

WA5VHU
02-13-2015, 11:51 AM
How about an new saddle (seat)? And since we are talking about a 3-wheeler you could have one on each side for a double-draw!!
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jaherbst
02-13-2015, 08:02 PM
[QUOTE=Dan_Ashley;932239]If you carry:
1) make sure you get trained in combat shooting--start on a target range then go to a combat range.
2) make sure you shoot and re-train regularly. Ability to shoot is not like riding a bicycle--it takes constant practice.
3). Make sure you have it in your head that you can kill another person--not everyone can--and if you can't, there is no shame--just don't get a gun because someone will take it away from you an use it on you.
4) combat changes you, you must be prepared for that.
5). A small caliber gun is easier to handle than a large caliber--especially at the short distances in a combat situation. However, they do not make you feel as macho. A gun is a tool. A gun is not a statement.
6) decide if you might be better off with pepper spray. Remember you are unlikely to be assaulted--even in bad neighborhoods, and when you are monpving, ie. Not stopped at red lights, the liklihood of an assault drops even more.
7). By the way, did I stress training enough. Merely because someone was an excellent shot 15 years ago doesn't mean he is today.
8). If you get in a combat situation, make sure to watch the background where most of your bullets will end up--you probably don't want to injure a bystander

​Good post. 8 out of 10 people are in more danger when they carry. They feel secure when they carry but hesitate to use or not sure they should use it. If you are going to carry make sure you can make split decisions without hesitation and know when to unholster the gun. Make sure you are in imminent danger and there is no other way out before pulling the trigger. Reality remains could you actually shoot another person? Food for thought.

No permit is required to carry concealed in Arizona now. I still keep my permit active as I have for 45 years because of recip. out of state.

Jack

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08-10-2015, 09:14 PM
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Pampurrs
08-10-2015, 09:22 PM
I carry a Ruger LCP 380 in a nice little pocket holster which I keep in my right jeans pocket. The handle sticks out of my pocket a little, but I leave my tee shirt untucked and it covers it. It's a small weapon, but I keep it loaded with critical defense rounds. On those rare occasions when I have to go into a place with one of those "No Weapons Allowed" signs, I just lock it in my trunk.

Pam

Brettssunshine
08-10-2015, 09:39 PM
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kbwitt
08-10-2015, 10:22 PM
Do not carrie any pistol till you have spent a lot of time at the range. Get completely familuar with the safty cocking and shooting. If you have never target practiced with a pistol you are in for a shock. I care a sig p938 9mm all the time in front pocket. It is the smallest 9mm if you practice you can get very good to 10 or 12 yards. And farther you needa 3 to 4 inch barrel dending on individuals capability.
Kenn

gkamer
08-10-2015, 10:34 PM
You carry it on your person. A gun is of absolutely no value or use when you have it in the trunk, in a bag (no matter how close that bag may be to you). The only logical place to carry it is in a holster on your person. If a situation has escalated to the point where you need to defend yourself, you don't want to be fumbling around trying to open some stupid bag. A semi-automatic has the advantage of holding more rounds in the magazine. Notice I didn't say bullets or clip. If you're going to carry a firearm, make yourself familiar with the correct terminology. A revolver, while not holding as many rounds as a semi-auto, is almost jam proof.

pitzerwm
08-10-2015, 11:04 PM
I will say this: I try to avoid areas where trouble can occur, but that is not always possible. I have been trying to come up with some "goodies".
I have two items of interest for personal protection in the works. One is a means to carry concealed and have access right at hand and the other is a non lethal force option. I'll post more when we get things ready! I am especially excited about the non-lethal option.

I too now carry non-lethal along with a gun. A flashlight that is a stun gun too and pepper spray, that shoots a stream 15-20 feet. Even if you are totally in the right too many anti-gun people on the juries. I will use the option if I feel they will work enough to stop the problem.

Lew L
08-11-2015, 11:09 AM
Laser sighted S&W 38 with the "right " ammo in a Crossbreed mini-tuck. comfortable, does not print with the Crimson trace small grip. I like a wheel gun--- no jam---- ever, no safety ( on or off???) Hard to beat the S&W single action trigger.
Shoot lots of different weapons untill you find one you really like. Get training!!

Being un armed in a BAD situation can cause:::::

Kaos

Bob Denman
08-11-2015, 12:10 PM
[QUOTE=kaos;1020271Being un armed in a BAD situation can cause:::::

Kaos[/QUOTE]

Or worse! :yikes:

currin20fan
08-11-2015, 01:20 PM
I too carry & have a vest especially for that purpose.

Bob Denman
08-11-2015, 01:39 PM
:clap: :thumbup:
It's far better to have it; and NOT need it... than need it, and not have it! nojoke

dlby
08-11-2015, 02:03 PM
1911 45 acp carry

12 gauge tactical available on homefront

223 ruger ranch backfront

Assorted other stuff in safe

Wife, 38 ruger w crimson trace she is a ringershooter

May all of them only be for target practice!

amusher
08-11-2015, 05:53 PM
I carry a hammerless Ruger SP 101 2", .357 in a IWB Crossbred holster or in the conceal carry pocket of my Xelement leather jacket when on the Spyder. My wife carries a LadySmith .38. I carry everywhere. The so called 'gun free' zones can ask us to leave if they notice that we're carrying which we don't advertise. Its not against the law to carry in most 'gun free' zones, and the ones that it is, i.e. courthouses etc, will have a check point set up where you can leave your weapon as you enter. In that case, we leave them in the vehicle.

dlby
08-11-2015, 05:55 PM
Agree & Amen

Mexican
08-11-2015, 06:05 PM
You guys carry guns????:yikes::yikes::yikes:

dlby
08-11-2015, 07:06 PM
[emoji41]

spydaman60
08-11-2015, 07:15 PM
sig 40 s&w on the belt, under the tee shirt. hornady critical defense rounds! hope I never have to use it, but there just in case. carried it on our trip this summer.

Pampurrs
08-11-2015, 07:17 PM
sig 40 s&w on the belt, under the tee shirt. hornady critical defense rounds! hope I never have to use it, but there just in case. carried it on our trip this summer.

I load those Critical Defense rounds in the Ruger 380 that I carry. I've seen demos of what they can do. Would not want to be on the receiving end.....

Pam

SNOOPY
08-11-2015, 09:23 PM
:popcorn:

jScotD
08-11-2015, 10:50 PM
I always carried a derringer.. but this I like....
http://www.taurususa.com/whats-new-the-curve.cfm

GOZFST
08-11-2015, 11:27 PM
Like most gun owners I've got a tote full of holsters that were "the solution". I keep falling back to a simple inexpensive Kydex holster, I carry my 1911 Colt Defender in one, my Sig P238, or my J frame S&W. The are light weight, easy to draw from and I usually wear a vest to cover them or a shirt over a t-shirt. My Keltec 380 rides in my front pocket or a Sneaky Pete style holster. Take a class, it'll scare the hell out of you when you learn of the consequences of pulling your weapon even if you're justified. SD has open carry, but I'm not comfortable advertising "Shoot me first".

Plyrod38
08-12-2015, 06:46 AM
I always carried a derringer.. but this I like....
http://www.taurususa.com/whats-new-the-curve.cfm

I bought the Curve in early May and have carried it since. I have the one with the laser and flashlight, love it, it shoots well and the laser was accurate "out of the box".
Carried it on a 2,000 mile trip to Spyder Fest and back, and a 1,000 mile trip to PA. This is a very comfortable CC piece.

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 07:19 AM
Galco "SOB" for the Colt 1911A-1
North American Arms sharkskin pocket Holster for the Seecamp...

PrairieSpyder
08-12-2015, 08:43 AM
Ruger LCP 380, North American Arms Sidewinder .22 magnum, S&W 38 revolver. My current favorite is the .22 mag because it's so small. I figure I'd probably only use it when the threat is really close and it would be useful there. I have several carry options depending on what I'm going to wear.

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 09:07 AM
Patti,
I don't know if they're still available; but Gloria LeMaster used to offer some very nice handbags that were designed for concealed-carry...
The Missus has a pair of them. They even have reinforced carrying straps that won't get busted, if some mutt tries to pull the bag out of your hands.

PrairieSpyder
08-12-2015, 10:38 AM
Patti,
I don't know if they're still available; but Gloria LeMaster used to offer some very nice handbags that were designed for concealed-carry...
The Missus has a pair of them. They even have reinforced carrying straps that won't get busted, if some mutt tries to pull the bag out of your hands.

There are several carry purses out there. My Sidewinder fits in an eye-glasses case in my purse! I have a carry purse, too, but, if possible, I prefer to carry on my person.

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 10:44 AM
:agree: "keeping it close", IS the best solution. :thumbup:
But a lot of Ladies are uncomfortable with bulges under their clothing. :shocked:

CanAmMick
08-12-2015, 11:24 AM
I carry a H&K USP Compact, and sometimes a Sig P320 Subcompact. My wife carries a Sig P226.

No matter what you decide to carry, it needs to be something that YOU feel comfortable with shooting, and that your proficient with.

Everyone seem to have their favorites and why they like them. There are so many different pistols/revolvers on the market, and so many different ways to carry them. Hope you find something that you really enjoy shooting.

I would suggest that you find a local range that allows you to rent pistols so you can find something that you really enjoy shooting. That way you don't purchase something and later figure out that it's not what you really want to shoot.

PrairieSpyder
08-12-2015, 12:13 PM
You guys carry guns????:yikes::yikes::yikes:


You don't?? :hun:

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 12:46 PM
:agree: :yikes:

spydaman60
08-12-2015, 12:58 PM
:agree: "keeping it close", IS the best solution. :thumbup:
But a lot of Ladies are uncomfortable with bulges under their clothing. :shocked:what an opening for a quick comebck, but i'm sure i'd be sorry if i did it!:roflblack:
:roflblack::roflblack:

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 01:16 PM
:shocked: You said it... :yikes: I didn't! :D

Pampurrs
08-12-2015, 01:18 PM
what an opening for a quick comebck, but i'm sure i'd be sorry if i did it!:roflblack:
:roflblack::roflblack:

At my age, with so many bulges in places where there aren't supposed to be bulges, I could conceal an M60 and nobody would notice :dontknow:

Pam

spydaman60
08-12-2015, 01:29 PM
At my age, with so many bulges in places where there aren't supposed to be bulges, I could conceal an M60 and nobody would notice :dontknow:

Pammine is noticeable with my tire roll either!! :roflblack:
:roflblack:

PrairieSpyder
08-12-2015, 02:10 PM
At my age, with so many bulges in places where there aren't supposed to be bulges, I could conceal an M60 and nobody would notice :dontknow:

Pam


:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflb lack: I resemble that!

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 02:23 PM
At my age, with so many bulges in places where there aren't supposed to be bulges, I could conceal an M60 and nobody would notice :dontknow:

Pam

:shocked: I don't care who you are: that has GOT to leave a mark... :yikes:
Full-auto? :D

Pampurrs
08-12-2015, 02:28 PM
:shocked: I don't care who you are: that has GOT to leave a mark... :yikes:
Full-auto? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X517Utblb00

Bob Denman
08-12-2015, 02:45 PM
:shocked: That works for me! :bowdown:

But this ain't bad either!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmMApNy48Sc&feature=player_detailpage

Oldmanzues
08-12-2015, 02:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X517Utblb00
Mad Russian, but sweet music, had a M-60 in VN. Two if we were in our M-37. Local L.EO.s might upset if we opened carried one of these here in the states
Oldmanzues

dlby
08-12-2015, 03:54 PM
Judge wi 45 long colts mixed eith federal 410 self D loads
On my night stand

Wake up groggy Wi invader no prob
I tested it on an old washing machine
Whoa!

RotaxDuramax
08-13-2015, 01:13 AM
I always carry, regardless on Spyder or truck, and it's usually a FiveseveN but I do carry an FNX 45 tac with TLR-2 and RMR from time to time. Big, yes, but wearing the proper clothing to accommodate it, it works. IWB is the style of holster I prefer to use, normally 3 - 4 position.

RTDillon1960
08-13-2015, 07:10 PM
I've been at it for 60 years and here's my thoughts: If you've not done any/much shooting you need to go to a range where they rent guns and try out several types to see what feels best to you. If necessary, get someone there to tutor you a bit. I wouldn't suggest starting out with a heavy weapon unless you are certain you can carry that comfortably all day.

Then consider how you want to carry it. I use OWB as about anything bigger than a tiny 380 sags my pockets too much. If you use OWB holster, get a wide stiff belt. Makes it way more comfortable.

For a newbi, a revolver is hard to beat. Its gonna fire every time you pull the trigger. Most autoloaders do too, but can
be more problematic for beginners.

I carried a Ruger LCR 38spl for a good while....very light, can shoot +P bullets. Stings the hand, even with regular loads, but does the job. A five shot, very lightweight, about 17 oz. ABout $350.

I recently transitioned back into autoloaders. Lots of excellent ones out there. One I used was a Ruger LC9s...a 9mm, 17oz empty, fires any bullet without fail, right out of the box. Hard to beat product. About $360.

I'm currently carrying, at various times, 3 Kahr's: a 380, 9mm, 45acp. Holds 7, 8, 7 bullets. About 12, 17 & 21 oz empty. I like their long smooth trigger. They are not for everyone and can be problematic until they've been shot a lot to break-in. I had no issues with any of mine, but a few folks do. Each of these cost from $340-375 approx.

Another outstanding 9mm also in the 17oz range is the S&W Shield. Gets rave reviews on gun forums. About $360 also.

Same weight but less expensive and gets good reviews is the Bursa Thunder 380. Made in Argentina or Brazil I think. Under $300. Find used for $250 or less.

Don't underestimate the 380. It will penetrate gelatin 8-10 inches. I can carry mine all day and not know its there. The 9mm carry's well too but you know you've got more weight and have to hitch the belt a notch tighter.

Get on Highroad gun forum and start reading up. Go to gun shows and fondle the products.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Go rent several guns and see what you like. I carry a Ruger SP101. 5 shots, 357. Hurts to shoot but does the job well. Easily concealed and does not make me walk in circles. Best Wishes.
:thumbup:

Bfromla
08-15-2015, 12:59 AM
Wow & here in OPEN carry state I holster my 410 judge but do better just avoiding areas where I may need. (Less legal headache too). Not so well I add as I was mugged in June fyi good thing I wasnt carring then they TKO from behind & I woke up to cops. Wallet only thing missing & nice shiner. If I had they would have it too. But trouble seems to FIND me look in my album & might understand.


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Bfromla
08-15-2015, 03:11 AM
Also topic point of gun nuts. "Having a pistol in your car is "extension of your home" supposedly so same on bike? No glove box to lock in? Same thought anyone trying to cut you off would it be self defense if you draw? (Redneck thoughts)


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Bob Denman
08-15-2015, 08:02 AM
Also topic point of gun nuts. "Having a pistol in your car is "extension of your home" supposedly so same on bike? No glove box to lock in? Same thought anyone trying to cut you off would it be self defense if you draw? (Redneck thoughts)
:shocked: NoNoNoNoNo...
Please leave your inner redneck tied to the front porch... :D
Think about it this way: If every traffic "problem" erupted with gunfire; exactly HOW long do you think it'd be, before they took our gun rights away? :dontknow:

This works better... follow them home, and note the location...
If their house burns one evening... :joke::joke::joke::joke::joke:

Bfromla
08-16-2015, 01:40 AM
:shocked: NoNoNoNoNo...
Please leave your inner redneck tied to the front porch... :D
Think about it this way: If every traffic "problem" erupted with gunfire; exactly HOW long do you think it'd be, before they took our gun rights away? :dontknow:

This works better... follow them home, and note the location...
If their house burns one evening... :joke::joke::joke::joke::joke:
Thx Bob im well controlled in that aspect is why I only open carry:firstplace: I know how I am & justice will come by a stronger force than me or ANY human can offer:bowdown: & to further your point @ gun rights :agree: http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113729&stc=1 No worries, :chat: was a topic of debate with friends nothing more. Fyi

Bob Denman
08-16-2015, 06:44 AM
:D I figured that this was more hypothetical; than anything! :2thumbs:
As Gun Owners, we need to have ZERO mistakes with our firearms. Every time something ugly happens; we ALL get painted with the same brush! nojoke

Off My Soapbox now... :D

vided
08-16-2015, 08:52 AM
:D I figured that this was more hypothetical; than anything! :2thumbs:
As Gun Owners, we need to have ZERO mistakes with our firearms. Every time something ugly happens; we ALL get painted with the same brush! nojoke

Off My Soapbox now... :D


We're not to judge all Muslims by the acts of a few "crazies," but the acts of a few American craziesis enough to judge all Americans who own guns.

Bob Denman
08-16-2015, 12:05 PM
:D It's a funny World; ain't it? :D

Mexican
08-16-2015, 12:22 PM
You don't?? :hun:
Yes i do:clap:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113731&stc=1

I also carry an LCP 380 because sometimes i ride thru places where i can hear banjos:yikes:

Bfromla
08-16-2015, 10:17 PM
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flaggerphil
08-16-2015, 11:23 PM
I saw someone carries a Judge. Has anyone got any experience with the S&W Governor?

Bfromla
08-17-2015, 01:44 AM
I saw someone carries a Judge. Has anyone got any experience with the S&W Governor?

Have 1as well fyi ,great gun actually fits my judge holster. Being my newer item it stays locked up till I go on range. The assortment of rounds you can carry in one load make both quite deviating. Pm if you have questions.


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dlby
08-17-2015, 08:54 PM
There are about 15 versions of The Judge
The version I have is 5in stainless full hammer

Would love to have defende4 as well but----

I need a boat!
Live in Fla now

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Bfromla
08-18-2015, 04:08 AM
Only pistols I can enjoy shooting clay pigeons with. Perfect for home defense, or 4wheeler snake gun.(IMHO) with right 410load (say #6bird shot) you have a 20" spread @3' away. Fyi & newer antipersonnel rounds are brutal. Standard 410 slug -expected, 00buck 3shot- mean, zombie round & RIP Rounds-yet to test. 45LC-expensive & expected. Also judge has smaller grip so comfy for lady shooters. Just beware the sound (loudest firearms I own (currently) FYI recoil is par with a 45, watching target explode well heh :)


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TEHelms
08-18-2015, 07:35 AM
Unless you're just really into weapons my thoughts are a couple of things...First, too heavy and too big is a pain in the ass...I carry a Taurus .380 which is light, easy to carry, inexpensive to fire and very accurate in the right hands. Second, while there's something to be said for the noise factor if you ever had to fire the thing, just pulling the weapon is all you're likely ever to do.

aeroshots
08-18-2015, 11:52 AM
[QUOTE= I hope and :pray: to not be in a situation that I would need it - however, the crap does occasionally hit the fan. Any suggestions and words of wisdom would be most welcome! :chat:[/QUOTE]

Prepare mentally to use and, just as important, no to use your weapon.

I've asked many folks that carry what they would do in different threatening scenarios. Most are way too quick in separating the weapon from leather thinking that is the only action needed to resolve an issue when in fact that action can escalate the problem. And, way too many others are way too premature in discharging the weapon.

I'm not going to pontificate too much here, but just be mentally prepared and trained beyond the physical handling of the weapon. There is great responsibility and liability at play being armed with a deadly weapon.

Bob Denman
08-18-2015, 12:01 PM
Prepare mentally to use and, just as important, not to use your weapon...
...There is great responsibility and liability at play being armed with a deadly weapon.
:agree: After all; if you "pull steel", you're just KNOW that you'll spend some time on Page 1. :shocked:

mowin
08-18-2015, 02:41 PM
Last week My mother in law discovered that I carry. She was spending a few days up to camp with us, and while I don't carry when out and about in the campground, i grab it when we go to the store ect. She was shocked, and asked why. Of course I gave her the standard reasons, but what shocked her was my answer to her question what would I do if someone started shooting in the store? I guess she expected me to say I'll run up and shoot the guy, but when I explained my priority is myself and my family, I said I'd look for a way out, or a place to hide, and when and only when we were in immediate danger, I would defend myself.

Of course every situation is different, but I guess what im trying to say, is just because you have a weapon, look for other options before pulling your gun.

DR Buck
08-18-2015, 06:26 PM
I'm a fan of .45 ACP. I carry the 3" Kimber Ultra Carry II with a Crimson Trace green laser.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113902&stc=1

mowin
08-18-2015, 07:24 PM
I'm a fan of .45 ACP. I carry the 3" Kimber Ultra Carry II with a Crimson Trace green laser.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113902&stc=1

Oh. That's nice. I've got a Kimber Solo Carry. Only Put around 200 rounds through her so far. Nice little pistol.

dlby
08-18-2015, 11:20 PM
Awesome piece of equipment!

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Bob Denman
08-19-2015, 06:59 AM
I've noticed something :D...

I don't recall a single post in here condemning us for our beliefs. :clap: :2thumbs:

Thank you... nojoke

TEHelms
08-19-2015, 07:22 AM
After coming out of the military I went for years and didn't carry...head game on my part...but, I have a friend that has an "adult toy store" in Florida that was robbed at gunpoint. Both he and a cashier were put on the floor in the store by a masked robber. The robber was so confident he carried out a bag of loot and told them to stay put. My friend was carrying at the time and as soon as the robber left the store he jumped up, pushed the silent alarm and pulled his weapon, a .25 revolver. When the robber reentered he began firing at him and was fired back upon. None of the shots hit anything although the distance between them was less than 20 feet.

So some things here stand out to me and were pointed out by the investigating officers. First, it's very possible the robber would have shot both my buddy and the clerk because he really had no reason to reenter the store. Second, not many shots fired hit anyone on purpose because of the adrenaline pumping though unless someone is very well trained. Third, the officer told my friend to get more weapon. As I first said to him, in that kind of situation you don't want a pop gun (although a pop gun can sure kill you), you want him to crap his pants as soon as that weapon is discharged and if you hit him you want him to go down from where ever you do hit him. It takes some weight plus velocity to accomplish that when everything is pumping through the crook too.

Bottom line is my friend now carries at least a 9mm and sometimes a .45. He was lucky the first time and now hits the range once a week.

Bob Denman
08-19-2015, 07:32 AM
...Bottom line is my friend now carries at least a 9mm and sometimes a .45. He was lucky the first time and now hits the range once a week.

:clap: Good for him! :clap:
Generally speaking; folks looking for a carry gun usually do not need a "fight-stopper"; they need something that they can fire accurately. (As you mentioned...)
Law Enforcement's needs are different than ours... they need to put a :cus: down as fast as possible.
We really only need to show the criminals, that we're going to be more trouble, than we're worth... nojoke

Dan McNally
08-19-2015, 08:19 AM
I'm a fan of .45 ACP. I carry the 3" Kimber Ultra Carry II with a Crimson Trace green laser.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=113902&stc=1

Dave, I knew I liked you for a reason - here is my carry, which is a cousin of yours. It is the Kimber Tactical Ultra II, 3" barrel .45 both in the IWB holster I made for it, and out.

kngfsh27
08-19-2015, 05:34 PM
I am retired military. Spent time as a Military Police instructor and range safety NCO. I have never carried. Those who do, that is fine. I am also a NRA Life Member. I am very much pro 2nd Amendment. If I do decide to carry, weapons of choice are M1 Garand and Model 97 trench gun.

Bob Denman
08-19-2015, 05:39 PM
I admire your choice in rifles... :clap:
I have always had a soft spot in my heart for the Garand. I got one through the DCM about 30 years ago, and built it to National Match specs... That beast could pile the bullet holes into very small areas, at very long distances... :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

...And the '97? I have my Great-Grandfather's model 1897 in 12 gauge. He purchased it new, in 1901! nojoke

As far as the NRA...


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=114039&stc=1

kngfsh27
08-30-2015, 05:26 PM
Spending time this past week with my sister and her husband, they were shocked that I do not carry when I am riding. I ride 99.9% of the time by myself. I will be taking a CCW course very soon. I am not going to post here what I will be carrying, only to say say one gun is over 100 years old(auto) and the other is 40 years old(revolver). I am a lot like Quigley. Never said I don't know how to use them, just not my weapon of choice.

Pineywoods36
08-30-2015, 05:39 PM
I carry on me that way if I get off the bike I do not have to worry, Most ooffen I only carry a 380 Bursa which is small and compact. Inside belt holster with untuck shirt. I find my 1911 a bit bulky unless it is cold and the more bulky clothes help conceal. I am planning on taking my Utha permit since we travel a lot and NY is not as friendly as many states.

Pineywoods36
08-30-2015, 05:40 PM
Dave, I knew I liked you for a reason - here is my carry, which is a cousin of yours. It is the Kimber Tactical Ultra II, 3" barrel .45 both in the IWB holster I made for it, and out.
I think I am going shopping!

Bfromla
08-31-2015, 01:30 AM
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Bfromla
09-02-2015, 12:14 AM
Ok fyi just got email from biker bud:) enjoy



GOT MY CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT YESTERDAY

In the afternoon, I went over to the local Bass Pro Shop to get a small 9mm handgun for home/personal protection.


When I was ready to pay for the pistol and ammo, the cashier said, "Strip down, facing me."

Making a mental note to complain to the NRA about the gun control wackos running amok, I did just as she had instructed.
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When the hysterical shrieking and alarms finally subsided, I found out she was referring to how I should place my credit card in the card reader!!!
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As an intelligent senior citizen, I do not get flustered often. But this time, it took me a while to get my pants back on.

I've been asked to shop elsewhere in the future. They need to make their instructions to seniors a little more clear.

I still don't think I looked that bad!




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wiredgeorge
09-04-2015, 10:34 AM
I will say this: I try to avoid areas where trouble can occur, but that is not always possible. I have been trying to come up with some "goodies".
I have two items of interest for personal protection in the works. One is a means to carry concealed and have access right at hand and the other is a non lethal force option. I'll post more when we get things ready! I am especially excited about the non-lethal option.

Doc, you wrote this waaaaaaay back on Feb. 5! Any update?

bobgeorge
11-29-2015, 07:11 PM
Anyone own or shot Springfield XD Mod.2 9mm? I shot one today at the range. Now I am thinking of purchasing one for concealed carry and home defense.

Any feedback?

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Saluda
11-30-2015, 07:22 AM
Another NRA member here.

Bob Denman
11-30-2015, 07:56 AM
Anyone own or shot Springfield XD Mod.2 9mm? I shot one today at the range. Now I am thinking of purchasing one for concealed carry and home defense. Any feedback?
Springfield Armory makes some pretty decent firearms. :thumbup: My buddies and I swap them around at the range, and those handguns are always the ones that everyone wants to try.
They shoot accurately, and are comfortable to carry!
I'm not the biggest fan of the 9mm. Ins a home defense situation; you'd better make sure that you've got it stuffed full of the right ammo... Over-penetration can be a problem... nojoke Ideally; you want the projectile to stay inside it's intended target...

bobgeorge
11-30-2015, 11:04 AM
Springfield Armory makes some pretty decent firearms. :thumbup: My buddies and I swap them around at the range, and those handguns are always the ones that everyone wants to try.
They shoot accurately, and are comfortable to carry!
I'm not the biggest fan of the 9mm. Ins a home defense situation; you'd better make sure that you've got it stuffed full of the right ammo... Over-penetration can be a problem... nojoke Ideally; you want the projectile to stay inside it's intended target...

Bob...can't you use 9mm like the below for home defense?

http://www.midwayusa.com/self-defense/br?cid=21661

http://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2015/02/10/5-best-9mm-self-defense-loads/

Bob Denman
11-30-2015, 11:35 AM
When it comes to the 9mm offerings; I've always looked for a projectile that'll expand reliably, and dump all of it's energy into the intended target... :thumbup:
Since I "brew my own bullets"; I can tailor my loads to do what I want them to...
Truthfully; I'm far more a fan of the .45 ACP... :D
Fat and Slow; works just fine! :clap:

Cruzr Joe
11-30-2015, 11:42 AM
When it comes to the 9mm offerings; I've always looked for a projectile that'll expand reliably, and dump all of it's energy into the intended target... :thumbup:
Since I "brew my own bullets"; I can tailor my loads to do what I want them to...
Truthfully; I'm far more a fan of the .45 ACP... :D
Fat and Slow; works just fine! :clap:


FAT & SLOW????????????? I told you to quit talking about me. :yikes::yikes:


Cruzr Joe

bruiser
11-30-2015, 11:44 AM
I keep a 9mm close by at home. Loaded with Liberty Home Defense 9mm+P. I carry a Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact .40 loaded with Federal HST S&W 165 grain hollow point. My drop gun is a Taurus PT22. My wife just got her CCW. Will probably get her a S&W 442. She has problems racking the slide on an auto so the 442 will be fine for her.

Bob Denman
11-30-2015, 01:05 PM
Those Taurus PT 22s might work well for her; the tip-up barrel makes loading a breeze! :thumbup:
(Just don't EVER dry-fire it; not unless you've already got a spare firing pin in your pocket! :shocked:)

retread
11-30-2015, 04:07 PM
Bob, I've got a Taurus PLY-22, if I use ammo hot enough to cycle the slide, it breaks, I'm looking at a Beretta Bobcat, in .22.

john

Cruzr Joe
11-30-2015, 04:38 PM
Bob, I've got a Taurus PLY-22, if I use ammo hot enough to cycle the slide, it breaks, I'm looking at a Beretta Bobcat, in .22.

john


I would take that gun and break it up before it explodes in your hand.

Cruzr Joe

Bob Denman
11-30-2015, 06:18 PM
Bob, I've got a Taurus PLY-22, if I use ammo hot enough to cycle the slide, it breaks, I'm looking at a Beretta Bobcat, in .22.

john

The Missus carries a Minx, in .22 Short... She has never felt under-gunned, because she's confident in her abilities to put all of those rounds where they most need to be put...nojoke

Ron2andia
11-30-2015, 06:53 PM
Beretta Tomcat in the inside pocket!

M109Dreamer
11-30-2015, 08:44 PM
I open carry when I ride with my Kimber or Para full size .45 ACP. I like to shoot quarters at folks if need be versus a nickle or dime.

I was just given my first 9mm for a retirement gift from my unit after 23 years in the Army. I was talking about getting into 3 gun so they picked this out for me. I havent had a chance to shoot it, but cant wait.


http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_814076_-1_775658_757896_757896_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

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ES44AC
11-30-2015, 08:53 PM
I conceal carry a G26 Gen 4 and a 15 or 17 round back up mag, you never know what may happen these days. I have been eyeing a 357 sig Glock lately too....

I have always loved shooting . I have some new AR500 IDPA steel coming for my range ! I hope to ring them with some 5.56 soon....

safecracker
11-30-2015, 10:02 PM
I am an, XDM fan. I owb my 5.25, 9mm. I am looking for a good shoulder holster. Sons and I shoot often. Where I live I can shoot out my back yard. I like to shoot at the range also. I tried a Canik, Shark the other day. I was really impressed with that pistol.

dlby
11-30-2015, 11:24 PM
Ruger mini 14 next to bed.

Taurus Stainless 45acp carrying during day, then on nightstand.

Mossburg 12 Ga tactical around

Wife carrying ruger 38 wi crimson trace

Tell you what though -'-
I've got a 1962 winchester 30 30 lever that Either one of us can poke holes with quickly& accurately
Weighs nothing,short, & feels perfect

Did I mention the 357 Mag. car gun thats always with us? Special automobile holster

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Bob Denman
12-01-2015, 07:52 AM
:D We are a FUN bunch; aren't we? :D

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FieldTester
12-01-2015, 09:47 AM
:D We are a FUN bunch; aren't we? :D
:2thumbs:


Nice to see this thread. Colt Mustang SS 380 since the 80's ;)

dlby
12-01-2015, 09:52 AM
Sweet!

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jScotD
12-01-2015, 09:58 AM
NAA 380 w/Crimson Trace....Most recently purchased info from this guy http://timlarkin.com/ haven't had a chance to look it over yet...