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dltang
10-28-2008, 03:17 PM
Today I was asked to work 1st shift. At 6:30 am this morning it was cold, 31 degrees before you figure in wind chill. I put on all my winter gear and off I went. When I left for home at 3:30pm this afternoon, it was mid 30's but with mixed snow and rain and sleet. Now this would be a test. Would I stay WARM and DRY and SAFE? I have to tell you, both the suit and the Spyder performed magnificently. I was quite comfortable riding as far as warmth went. I was completely dry when I got home and the suit had the rain and snow just beading up and falling off, it is dry already. The Spyder handled admirably. It never skidded or slipped or anything. My biggest worry was the other drivers, the first slippery day is always the worst. Everyone seems to forget how to drive in bad weather. Granted, if there was any accumulation or icing up, I wouldn't want to take my chances, but I think today gave me a pretty good taste of how far I will be able to push it through the winter depending on driving conditions. As long as the forecast doesn't call for accumulation or freezing rain and ice or if the roads are dry, we will be riding. When the sub zero temps sneak in, I may have to think it over at that time but I'll let you all know.

By the way, I hear they really got hit in the east with snow, time to get out the spyder cousin and start snowmobiling on a skido.

NancysToy
10-28-2008, 03:36 PM
Good job, Deb! You and BJT could be BMW riders with your "ride anywhere, anytime, any weather" attitudes. The other drivers do scare me in the slippery stuff, though, they are idiots for the most part. They also are not looking for motorcycles in cold weather, so they may see us, but it may not register. Be careful!
-Scotty

Lamonster
10-28-2008, 03:38 PM
I think they are far above BMW riders :congrats:

tatt2r
10-28-2008, 03:53 PM
I think they are far above BMW riders :congrats:

u r hard core

Greg H.
10-28-2008, 04:02 PM
Nice report! :thumbup:

I've decided at this point that if it's 32 degrees or less, my Spyder is staying in the garage. Too much to risk, for me (and the Spyder). And, there is no way, I'll be on it if there is any snow in the area.

Actually, I doubt I'll be riding if it's under about 39 degrees. Yesterday morning was a good gauge.

GeminiJane
10-28-2008, 05:03 PM
Thanks, Deb, for the sleet/snow report - I won't worry in the future so much if I get caught out on a bad day. I had to do a 250 mile day today to get my first oil change at the dealer where I purchased the Spyder. It was 29 this morning - maybe 30 when I left but the sun was shining and the roads were dry so it was smooth sailing and actually got into the 40's on the way home. I had worn by Synergy heated jacket and plugged my old Gerbing gloves onto them and was warm as toast. (Actually had to turn heat to lowest setting as I was getting a little too toasty - and that was running 80 on interstate.) Needless to say, unless we get snow or ice (which is pretty uncommon for us), I'll be riding down into the teens, easily. Too much fun to pass up! I can't blame you for wanting to ride to work - riding anywhere - doctor, grocery, dentist, etc. always makes it more fun; then it's an adventure and not a chore!

bjt
10-28-2008, 07:29 PM
Well I hope the roads aren't too bad when I come home from work tonight at midnight. Even at 35 degrees, it hasn't been cold enough yet for me to have to put on my insulated riding pants. The cold cuts right through the jeans and leaves a stinging cold feeling on the thighs but I only got about 15 - 20 minutes from work to home so I just tough it out. Once its down below 30, I'll probably break out the riding pants. I would be up for some heated gloves. I've noticed that my fingertips are getting cold, close to painfully cold.

http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Holidays_and_Party/snowman-057.gif

Smylinacha
10-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Glad you had a nice warm, dry, safe trip home! We didn't get any snow here - just rain and raw cold. They did in NY, NJ and PA though.

You definitely are Hard Core - you gotta kidnap HDX and Roaddog - they'll ride w/ ya in that stuff. (Not me - I'd rather stay inside and drink warm spiked cider or something) :)

BRPjunkie
10-28-2008, 07:45 PM
The rain and snow are not the problem. Once they hit the roads with salt and dirt, even after the roads dry off, that nasty stuff is still there. If you have a heated garage where you can desalinate your Spyder, no problem. Salt, especially the road grade stuff, is not kind to vehicles not designed to resist it.

TonyMac
10-28-2008, 08:29 PM
Deb, you my dear are definately hard core :2thumbs:

I told my wife today that with mornings getting in the low 50's, I'll have to get some winter weight gloves and put the liner in my mesh jacket.

I'm with you, though. I plan on riding all winter long. Unless it's really wet and nasty, the Sypder is my main ride.

Keep it safe. Tony

Roaddog2
10-28-2008, 08:38 PM
Glad you had a nice warm, dry, safe trip home! We didn't get any snow here - just rain and raw cold. They did in NY, NJ and PA though.

You definitely are Hard Core - you gotta kidnap HDX and Roaddog - they'll ride w/ ya in that stuff. (Not me - I'd rather stay inside and drink warm spiked cider or something) :)Maybe it can do a 8 in the snow thinking ahead keep on ridin Dltang :thumbup:

baldev
10-28-2008, 08:49 PM
[QUOTE=dltang;57900]Today I was asked to work 1st shift. At 6:30 am this morning it was cold, 31 degrees before you figure in wind chill. I put on all my winter gear and off I went.


My turbans ( hats ) off to your resilient can ride attitude. Respect for the hardcoreness.:bowdown::2thumbs::bowdown::cheers::

NancysToy
10-28-2008, 08:51 PM
The rain and snow are not the problem. Once they hit the roads with salt and dirt, even after the roads dry off, that nasty stuff is still there. If you have a heated garage where you can desalinate your Spyder, no problem. Salt, especially the road grade stuff, is not kind to vehicles not designed to resist it.
Spoken like a true Michigander. Amen, brother, amen!!! When blacktop roads look white, don't take out your toys. Neither snow nor salt is kind to them. That residual stuff lasts until a good hard rain, too.
-Scotty

dltang
10-28-2008, 09:03 PM
Maybe it can do a 8 in the snow thinking ahead keep on ridin Dltang :thumbup:

You know, I have done donuts with an ambulance, now that is kind of a rush....

Roaddog2
10-28-2008, 09:05 PM
You know, I have done donuts with an ambulance, now that is kind of a rush....U have me beat :2thumbs:

skorp55
10-28-2008, 09:09 PM
What is snow?

BRPjunkie
10-28-2008, 09:13 PM
Spoken like a true Michigander. Amen, brother, amen!!! When blacktop roads look white, don't take out your toys. Neither snow nor salt is kind to them. That residual stuff lasts until a good hard rain, too.
-Scotty

The stuff is insidious. I swear that when it falls off the cars in the garage it tries to crawl across the floor to the fresh metal it smelled on my bikes, now Spyder. Much less chrome to attract the creeping corrosion, but I know when I sleep it is looking for a path. Just look at the amount of salt residue that accumulates on your garage floor during the salting season and you may not want to drive your Spyder across that let alone miles of roads covered with it. That said, I know that Michigan weather is freaky and I have played golf on Christmas day, so if one day each month I get a shot at clean roads, 50 degrees, some sun and a chance to charge the Spyder's battery and mine, I may give it a shot.

frleo
10-28-2008, 09:33 PM
My two cold challenges were one at 26F and the other at 20F. The morning with 26F, I had the Thermosuit and sweater and heavy pants under. I was actually a bit warm. So, the morning with 20F I had on light turtleneck shirt and jeans under the Thermosuit. That was a bit cool - so I will now go with the layer principle and choose WARM (smile) Leather snow mobile gloves and insulated boots complete the ensamble.

Like most of us -- NO spYder RIDING with ice or snow. (like tonight - it is snowing here)

---leo---

spyderbitten
10-29-2008, 10:39 AM
Was 27F yesterday morning. Snowmobile grip heaters helped, but still not good enough. Need wind protection on the hands. BRP touring shield is of no help on hands. Using the Ski-Doo modular2 helmet with the breath deflector attached and no fogging, nice and warm. If I settle the cold hands, I'am good to go until the chemicals start being spread on the roads. :yes:

frleo
10-29-2008, 11:39 AM
I learned something this morning that I possibly should have considered.
Overnight, we had 4" of wet snow. The roads looked wet but no snow or ice.
What I soon realized -- PENNDOT had sanded the roads, especially at intersections. Traffic had left a nice wide band of sand and gravel right in the middle of the driving lane - right where the back wheel of spYdie normally tracks. It is difficult to find a track where no wheels were in the sand/gravel. Lesson learned!
---leo---

Rokonman
10-29-2008, 05:11 PM
Today I was asked to work 1st shift. At 6:30 am this morning it was cold, 31 degrees before you figure in wind chill. I put on all my winter gear and off I went. When I left for home at 3:30pm this afternoon, it was mid 30's but with mixed snow and rain and sleet. Now this would be a test. Would I stay WARM and DRY and SAFE? I have to tell you, both the suit and the Spyder performed magnificently. I was quite comfortable riding as far as warmth went. I was completely dry when I got home and the suit had the rain and snow just beading up and falling off, it is dry already. The Spyder handled admirably. It never skidded or slipped or anything. My biggest worry was the other drivers, the first slippery day is always the worst. Everyone seems to forget how to drive in bad weather. Granted, if there was any accumulation or icing up, I wouldn't want to take my chances, but I think today gave me a pretty good taste of how far I will be able to push it through the winter depending on driving conditions. As long as the forecast doesn't call for accumulation or freezing rain and ice or if the roads are dry, we will be riding. When the sub zero temps sneak in, I may have to think it over at that time but I'll let you all know.

By the way, I hear they really got hit in the east with snow, time to get out the spyder cousin and start snowmobiling on a skido.

I had a similar day Monday here in Pittsburgh. Put on the 12V Jacket, full-face helmet, and gloves with Aerostich and all was superb. All I had to do was adjust the control to comfort and all is well. I don't think there is any temp down to 10 degrees that would be a problem as far as staying warm. The heated gear is not cheap but when you need it, it worth every penny

Sopher
10-29-2008, 08:04 PM
I found several ways to help stay warm up here in the North East (outside of Boston);
Compression type running pants under my clothes or Snow pants (Colulmbia Titanium)
The only issue so far... boots. My heavier boots make shifting much more difficult. So does the heavier Spyder brand gloves. Cheaper snow gloves work OK.

Plus I keep forgetting a my neck gaitor.

bjt
10-29-2008, 08:22 PM
Plus I keep forgetting a my neck gaitor.

I need to find one of those too. I have an $8 balaclava that the dealer threw in when I first picked up my spyder and it works pretty good but a neck gaitor would make it perfect. Probably as good as the turtlefur thing that dltang has.

Smylinacha
10-29-2008, 08:27 PM
You know, I have done donuts with an ambulance, now that is kind of a rush....

Now I'd like to ride w/ you in the ambulance when you do those!:clap:

SpyderGirl
10-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Deb, what sort of gear were you wearing? I need something to keep me warm to down about around 35 or 40 degrees considering that is usually as cold as it gets here. I am good with what I got down to 50 degrees. Today, we just got our first real rain here since about April.

dltang
10-30-2008, 08:42 PM
Deb, what sort of gear were you wearing? I need something to keep me warm to down about around 35 or 40 degrees considering that is usually as cold as it gets here. I am good with what I got down to 50 degrees. Today, we just got our first real rain here since about April.

Here is the thread on the gear I have http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7180 http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/thermo1-pcrainsuit.jpg
It seems a number of folks have purchased this suit and so far everyone is very happy with it. Here is the site directly http://www.motosport.com/street/product/FIRSTGEAR-THERMO-1PIECE-SUIT/?prodId=508379&nav=&sMMY Every so often they have a one day sale and the suit is half price. Even at full price $144.00 for what this is, isn't too bad. I also wear one of these Turtle Fur Balaclava's that I got from the local bike shop. Mine is red of course.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/shellaclava2.jpg

It cost me $14.00. It keeps the wind from coming up inside my helmet and keeps my neck warm. I do have to loosen my chin strap just a bit and make a conscious effort to turn my head to see both ways, but it sure keeps me warm. I also have an Olympia leather winter glove.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k319/dltang/2007_Olympia_4350_All_Season_I_Glov.jpg

They work fairly well but coming home the other night with the temps down in the high 20's my fingers did get cold. Time to seriously consider the electric gloves.

I hope all this information helps, happy riding and stay warm and safe.

dltang
10-30-2008, 08:44 PM
By the way Spydergirl, welcome to spyderlovers. Glad to have you here, your input will be wonderful.

SpyderGirl
10-30-2008, 08:47 PM
Thanks Deb, I have two of those things already... the gloves and the balaclava. Sounds like I'm doing alright. I have the Bikers Comfort in Action thermal underwwear on my wish list to Santa (my hubby) for Christmas.

And thanks for the welcome, I've been a member over here for a while, I just spend most of my time over at SpyderTalk. :D

frleo
10-31-2008, 10:45 AM
Check this out Brian, it's where I got mine.

http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/sitesearchresults.aspx?pg=1&p_keyword=gaiter&p_origin=Home_gift08&processor=content

---leo---