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MikeT
11-20-2014, 01:03 PM
Been considering it. Just don't know of anyone has made that transition locally to get their opinions on the plusses and minuses. Reaching out to SL to find out if anyone here has made the 3-wheel switch.
Thanks,

Bob Denman
11-20-2014, 01:34 PM
George Lewis has both. :thumbup: I just am NOT sure of what his screen name is now... :opps:
If you can find him; he's the guy to talk with!

Chupaca
11-20-2014, 01:48 PM
have seen reviews on this but you would have to search for those threads...:dontknow:

Bob Denman
11-20-2014, 01:54 PM
His new name is "Mr. Cognac" :2thumbs:

Art Mann
11-20-2014, 02:25 PM
I just recently sold my last Goldwing and bought a 2014 RT-S SE6 after doing long distance touring on Goldwings for 14 years. I made the switch because my knees are getting too bad to hold up myself, my wife and an 850 pound motorcycle in traffic. I have only had the Spyder for a couple of months now and I really don't have enough experience to offer a really good comparison. I will just offer a few one-liner observations not in any particular order.

* The Spyder provides a much more relaxed experience while still providing most of the feeling of freedom you get from riding a 2 wheeler.

* It is more difficult than you might think to adapt to a 3 wheel vehicle when you have ridden for many years on two wheelers. I am just getting comfortable after 800 miles.

* The Spyder powertrain does not in any way compare to that of the Wing. The 1800 6 cylinder is much smoother and has more low RPM torque. The 1330 is more than adequate though and I kind of like the 3 cylinder rumble.

* I got the semi automatic push button gear shifter option, mainly because I wanted the big OEM floorboards. After using it a while, I have come to like it, although I would still prefer a clutch.

* The amount of on board storage is more than the Wing and is going to be a great benefit to me for short 3-5 day trips when I don't want to pull a trailer.

* There aren't nearly as many accessories for the Spyder as the Goldwing and the BRP ones are outrageously expensive. The after market industry seems to be catching up though.

* I do all my own maintenance and the Wing is considerably easier to work on and has fewer maintenance requirements than the Spyder. So far, this has been the biggest disadvantage I can think of.

These are just thoughts right off the top of my head and are not backed up with a lot of experience. I will not be able to do a really good comparison until I get maybe 10,000 miles on the RT. If you have any specific questions I would be happy to try to answer, although there are others here more qualified, including our forum sponsor Lamonster.

ARtraveler
11-20-2014, 03:03 PM
George Lewis has both. :thumbup: I just am NOT sure of what his screen name is now... :opps:
If you can find him; he's the guy to talk with!

Mr. Cognac

MikeT
11-20-2014, 03:12 PM
I just recently sold my last Goldwing and bought a 2014 RT-S SE6 after doing long distance touring on Goldwings for 14 years. I made the switch because my knees are getting too bad to hold up myself, my wife and an 850 pound motorcycle in traffic. I have only had the Spyder for a couple of months now and I really don't have enough experience to offer a really good comparison. I will just offer a few one-liner observations not in any particular order.

* The Spyder provides a much more relaxed experience while still providing most of the feeling of freedom you get from riding a 2 wheeler. I think that can be said about any trike

* It is more difficult than you might think to adapt to a 3 wheel vehicle when you have ridden for many years on two wheelers. I know what you mean. We made that transition in 2006. I am just getting comfortable after 800 miles.

* The Spyder powertrain does not in any way compare to that of the Wing. The 1800 6 cylinder is much smoother and has more low RPM torque. The 1330 is more than adequate though and I kind of like the 3 cylinder rumble.

* I got the semi automatic push button gear shifter option, mainly because I wanted the big OEM floorboards. After using it a while, I have come to like it, although I would still prefer a clutch.

* The amount of on board storage is more than the Wing Really??? The only thing you gain is the funk, and that isn't very big. and is going to be a great benefit to me for short 3-5 day trips when I don't want to pull a trailer. The wife dislikes trailers. Plus, we have no room to store it.

* There aren't nearly as many accessories for the Spyder as the Goldwing and the BRP ones are outrageously expensive. The after market industry seems to be catching up though.

* I do all my own maintenance and the Wing is considerably easier to work on and has fewer maintenance requirements than the Spyder. So far, this has been the biggest disadvantage I can think of. I was told by a Spyder Service Manager that an RT is more expensive to maintain than a Wing because of having to remove the tupperware to do anything. Having a 90 minute drive one way to my dealer with the best reputation is my biggest issue.

These are just thoughts right off the top of my head and are not backed up with a lot of experience. I will not be able to do a really good comparison until I get maybe 10,000 miles on the RT. If you have any specific questions I would be happy to try to answer, although there are others here more qualified, including our forum sponsor Lamonster.
​Enjoy your new ride

MikeT
11-20-2014, 03:16 PM
George Lewis has both. :thumbup: I just am NOT sure of what his screen name is now... :opps:
If you can find him; he's the guy to talk with!
I've read most of George's posts. With his first Spyder, I think he liked his Motor Trike better. More reliable. He hasn't said much in comparing his Wing and the '14. He does say the '14 is more sorted out compared to his earlier Spyder.

Bob Denman
11-20-2014, 03:27 PM
It'll take a while to sink in; just how much they've improved... :D

DaveL
11-21-2014, 09:34 AM
I rode a 2 wheel GL1800 and switched to the Can Am because I had two knee surgeries and I love it. I have a friend who went from a 2003 California sidecar GL1800 to a 14 RT Limited. He had had several shoulder surgeries and had not be able to ride his trike for over a year. He rode my Can Am and was able to steer it because of the power steering and he was hooked. He went right out and made a deal on a new Can Am for himself. He loves his and has put over 15,000 miles on it since March. He says that it has a much more comfortable ride than the CSC trike and the steering is effortless. He had went to the easy-steer on his GL1800 and still was having trouble manhandling the trike. The semi automatic transmission is great (I have always changed my own gears but after riding the Can Am I love the SE6). Another huge plus that Can Am has is the engine powered reverse (the Goldwing's reverse as you know is very slow). I have attached a video that compares the two. Luggage is similar, the Can Am is more powerful and is more stable than a rear wheel trike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mulK8BnPXAY


www.youtube.com/watch?v=mulK8BnPXAY

Mr. White
11-21-2014, 10:14 AM
As some know, I have a 2002 Gold Wing Motor Trike and a 2014 RT-Ltd, trading my 2011 RT-S. I rode my Wing four years as a two wheeler and triked it in '05....due to bad Korean knee. My Wing, as others have posted, is bullet proof, never been in the shop other than a frame recall. I kept it as I could not get much for it now and love to ride it for reasons posted earlier. I change the synthetic oil every 10-12K and a friend does the radiator every two years and we grease the spline, check the trike kit nuts and bolts with the oil changes...etc. My Wing is strong, more torque as low end, great on the Interstate and steers, rides great.

The great video in the previous post if about a Cal. Sidecar trike kit. I have never ridden one, but my Motor Trike as served me well with no maintenance problems....I have read some other kits have had problems. Ya pays your money, ya takes your chances.

My 2011 was sure a different ride. Stable and ran well. Replaced the throttle body under warranty along with a steering sensor. Some had major problems with early Spyders (amd dealers). A fun machine in the twisties in the TX hill country west of me. The wife and I don't do long distance any more but if we do, we take our motorhome.

Mr. Cognac is a better machine in many ways....better handling, more hp and torque, just better all around.

I plan to keep Punkin' and Mr. Cognac until they turn to dust or I can't get on them any more. I don't ride as much as I used to so Mr. Cognac and Punkin' are my last scoot purchases. I won't trade Mr. Cognac unless there are MAJOR changes.

Why would I trade then, you ask....becaise money is no object now that the wife got promoted to blade oiler on the second shift at the sawmill. This is good thing as I have put in an application for her at Wal Mart for the first shift. She will start out unloading trucks, but could move up to stocking shelves if she does good work....I know she will. This is a good thing as Wal Mart is two miles away and she can come home on her lunch break and fix mine...

Ya can't go wrong with a '14, dealers are getting '15s and want to move the '14s...no changes in the '15s other than colors and price increase.

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spyder3
11-21-2014, 10:34 AM
Just another classic post!!!! And what a wife:D

STELLING MAN
11-21-2014, 04:09 PM
Does your wife have any sisters?:roflblack::clap:

Orange Spyder Man
11-21-2014, 04:29 PM
I just went from a 2005 GoldWing to a spyder... (that was my 2nd GoldWing I had a 2002 also).. like it was earlier stated.. the GoldWing is MUCH smoother, quieter, & more powerful.. requires much less maintenance and it is bullet proof.. both my GoldWings never had any issues that required me bringing it to the shop for warranty service... my present ride a 2014 Spyder LT .. I like the idea of not having to support a 650lb machine with my legs when stopped.. It does now ever handle entirely different than a 2 wheel motorcycle.......I think BRP has a lot less dealer network than Honda.. and like earlier stated... BRP parts, accessories & service are outrageously priced.. as far as longevity not sure how the Spyder will stack up next to a GoldWing.. I only have about 800 miles on my 2014 LT Spyder ... I guess time will tell...


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Deanna777
11-21-2014, 05:56 PM
Been considering it. Just don't know of anyone has made that transition locally to get their opinions on the plusses and minuses. Reaching out to SL to find out if anyone here has made the 3-wheel switch.
Thanks,Send Mike( Blueknight911) a PM. Deanna

Bob Denman
11-21-2014, 05:59 PM
Does your wife have any sisters?:roflblack::clap:
:agree: I'll even consider adoption... :D :thumbup:

WVFoxtrotter
11-21-2014, 08:01 PM
I started trying out spyders in early July this year, I had been riding a 2002 Gold Wing with Champion conversion. The wife and I tried a 2013 spyder but was not really that impressed. We had ridden the 2002 wing for 4 years and added about 34k miles on it. WE went to another dealer and tried and 2009 and 2011 spyder but was still not too impressed until we rode the 2014. What a difference the ride and handled so much better. Due to a death in a person family we were able to purchase a 2014 with 2300 miles on it and warranty till 2018. This was in Aug. we now have 7600 miles on it, And have sold the Wing. WE do love our Spyder RTS SE6:yes:

Art Mann
11-22-2014, 12:23 AM
​I was told by a Spyder Service Manager that an RT is more expensive to maintain than a Wing because of having to remove the tupperware to do anything. Having a 90 minute drive one way to my dealer with the best reputation is my biggest issue.

It isn't just the problem of removing body panels. There are just a lot more maintenance items to do. Just download and read the owner's manual. Furthermore, maintenance parts and materials are more expensive and harder to find. Compare the cost of oil filters and you will see what I mean.

Obviously, I didn't think the added maintenance expense was too much because I bought one. I just wish there were more after market options available.

My dealer is 60 miles away but I don't plan on visiting them too often because I do much of my own maintenance. One nice thing about this dealership is the service manager told me I was welcome to come back to the shop and watch any work they do.

Bob Denman
11-23-2014, 09:39 AM
But the 1330 is a lot less maintenance-intensive, than the 998s... :thumbup:
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Art Mann
11-23-2014, 04:14 PM
But the 1330 is a lot less maintenance-intensive, than the 998s... :thumbup:
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Yes Bob, that is very true. When I first started looking for an RT-S the 2013's were still plentiful and at very low prices. I decided to buy a 2014 instead partly due to the heat issues but also because of the reduced maintenance. It just seems to me that the 2014 is a "charmed" model year for the RT's. There are far fewer repeating problems being reported here and elsewhere than some earlier models.