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Mexican
11-13-2014, 05:41 PM
Went to the Texas Long Horn rally and had the chance to sit on one, i guess i'm used to the standard riding position because i did not like the crusier like posture, also my wife said that the front looks like a lawn mower:yikes:
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cuznjohn
11-13-2014, 05:52 PM
to be honest i like the look of the seating position. i would do the tri axis handlebars on my rt if they weren't so expensive and so hard to install just to sit upright more

ARtraveler
11-13-2014, 05:58 PM
I like the looks (mean & fast). Also find that the more I look at it, I like the difference between the F3 and other models. Instead of snowmobile, it does indeed look a bit lawnmowerish--but in a nice way.

You are not alone with the lawn mower comment. There have even been suggestions to paint it in John Deere Green/Yellow.

As far as seating position, I cannot comment because I have not had the opportunity to test sit or test drive. They won't be up here until next April or so.

I am now a dyed in the wool RT person--but 4 years ago or so, I would have jumped on the F3 with no questions asked.

iSpyder
11-13-2014, 05:59 PM
... also my wife said that the front looks like a lawn mower

Tell your wife someone else agrees with her assessment! :thumbup:

flamingobabe
11-13-2014, 06:10 PM
To ride one will change your mind....the throttle is quick....really feels secure seating in the seat...Mark road one and he went down to Lone Star to find fault in the F3....he loves it.....but with all the problems we had with my 2013 ST...we will not be purchasing a F3 for a while....they, F3 have to prove themselves

blacklightning
11-13-2014, 06:47 PM
I used to ride a M109. To me, the riding position is very similar. It is good for cruising, but for long, over the road touring, the standard RT seating position worked better for me. With the cruising position, my movement and body repositioning was limited. As for the looks, I just do not like it. But, that is the reason for different bikes, we have different likes, so we need different choices. I am also not a fan of the exposed frame.

Bob Denman
11-13-2014, 06:51 PM
They're trying to broaden their market appeal with this bike...
It may not be your cup of tea; but it's bound to be somebody's! :D

GunDoctor
11-13-2014, 06:55 PM
Works for me, been cruising on my Harley for the past 20 years, so it totally works and I'm the very market they are after. On order and waiting.

bmccaffrey
11-13-2014, 07:37 PM
Haven't sat o one yet. But will test one when i get the chance.

Looks- like a bulldog. I think the front looks like the old snow ghia snowmobile or thr ford focus :dontknow:

MikeinGA
11-13-2014, 07:57 PM
Only if it would have Ape Hanger bars. ;)

Mike

Dragonrider
11-13-2014, 08:09 PM
I like/prefer the forward control position. The F3 is comfortable, but looks like _____ because the rider sits too far back, and it has insufficient storage - even with the BRP bags. You buy a bike because it moves your soul - the F3 doesn't come close for me. But if it works for you, go enjoy it.

Mexican
11-13-2014, 08:45 PM
On the other hand, the side view i like, it looks like out of a Terminator movie, and not that much plastic!! you can actually see the engine, they offered me to test ride it and i declined the offer, now i regreat it:sour:

SpyderAnn01
11-13-2014, 09:42 PM
I plan to ride one this weekend. I'm not a fan of forward controls myself but maybe I'll change my mind.

BikeIowa
11-13-2014, 09:58 PM
Only if it would have Ape Hanger bars. ;)

Mike
+1

flamingobabe
11-13-2014, 10:50 PM
the handlebars are interchangeable...so if you want ape hangers...do it

flaggerphil
11-14-2014, 01:59 AM
I find the F3 riding position more comfortable than the RT riding position. But then I'm used to cruisers more so than Gold Wings. However, I'm keeping my RT.

StanProff
11-14-2014, 07:58 AM
Works for me, been cruising on my Harley for the past 20 years, so it totally works and I'm the very market they are after. On order and waiting.

10 years ago I would have jump all over the F3. I am on my 2nd RT ( a '14 RTS) and the 1330 is a great step up for the Spyder. I loved my '10 model and the 998 engine was strong but that engine was more suited for the RS. With the new gearing (larger sprocket on the back) I am sure the F3 will be HOT. Good luck and hope you get yours soon. As a Harley rider going to the F3 I am very interested in your assessment of it.

Bob Denman
11-14-2014, 08:06 AM
Only if it would have Ape Hanger bars. ;)

Mike

You asked for it... :D 98910

StanProff
11-14-2014, 08:09 AM
I find the F3 riding position more comfortable than the RT riding position. But then I'm used to cruisers more so than Gold Wings. However, I'm keeping my RT.

I have just recently traded up from my 2010 RTS SM to the '14 RTS SE,,,Being 5'7" I don't need a lot of room to stretch out. with the floor boards on the SE I have found that I have good room to move my feet to the front of the boards for a comfortable position when needed. I will not need highway pegs as I had on the SM. Also with my feet forward on the boards I can use that area for leverage when cornering. With this in mind I know with the feet forward position on the F3 it would be a totally different feel and riding style especially in the twisties using your legs and feet instead of upper body and shoulders. I am still an RT kinda guy but I do think the F3 is going to shake up the 3 wheel market and pull a lot of cruiser riders over.

Spydman
11-14-2014, 01:21 PM
Have not had a chance to sit on one yet but want one very bad. I have always loved the sitting position on my Harley. Thinking I might like this. Will keep our 2012 rt limited and get the F3 for myself to have fun with (when the wife will let me). Probably will sell the Harley to help get the F3 but had to part with it. Going to Daytona in march to see the 2015 lineup and see what Lamonster's F3 will look like. Hope to see lots of you guys and girls down there.



SPYDMAN

GunDoctor
11-14-2014, 05:20 PM
Stan....I will be test riding tomorrow..can't wait.

OJ UK
11-14-2014, 05:30 PM
Went to the Texas Long Horn rally and had the chance to sit on one, i guess i'm used to the standard riding position because i did not like the crusier like posture, also my wife said that the front looks like a lawn mower:yikes:
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Looking at this picture, the foot pegs look to be on settings three or four. If they were moved back to one or two then I think you'd be comfy.
There are also four different reach distances for the handlebars. You do look overstretched in photo.
Here's how they adjust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7m2emsdX0

Bob Denman
11-14-2014, 05:39 PM
Stan....I will be test riding tomorrow..can't wait.
We're here; waiting for the "Report From The Saddle"... :2thumbs:

Raknid
11-14-2014, 07:03 PM
I am not a fan of the cruiser seating position. I like the looks of the ride though. Just would never be for me with cruiser seating.

StanProff
11-14-2014, 08:26 PM
Stan....I will be test riding tomorrow..can't wait.

Can't wait for your assessment of it. :thumbup:

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Flash Gordon
11-14-2014, 09:24 PM
When I did a test ride on the F3, they gave me one with the foot pegs in the #2 position. I am 5' 7" with a 29" inseam, which tells you I am not only short, but have short legs & arms. I have to admit that they did a good job matching me to a F3. It was very comfortable, and because you sit lower than on my RT-L, it was a very different ride, but a lot of fun. This F3 will move. I have a 2014 RT-L, and the F3 was much quicker etc. They have done several things to make it a lot different than the RT, even though it has the same engine, and transmission. It is lighter in weight, it has a rear sprocket that is larger, the engine is tuned differently, it has a different muffler etc. There are many changes that make this a truly different ride than the RT. I too am an x-Harley rider as well as other cruiser type two wheel bikes. I enjoyed my demo ride a lot, and if I could afford a second Spyder, I would buy one. I think they have put together a bike that will appeal to a new group of riders.

Mexican
11-14-2014, 09:28 PM
Looking at this picture, You do look overstretched in photo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7m2emsdX0
Forgot to tell you i'm every bit of 5'4' tall,,,or should i say ,,,short??:opps:

PW2013STL
11-15-2014, 03:18 AM
I put highway pegs on my RT so I can sterach out my legs as my knees get sore in the standard riding position. I think the F3 looks like it would be more comfortable for me, but would need to test ride one first. I would miss the storage of the RT so unless they offer a hitch for it so I can tow a trailer then no F3 for me.

OJ UK
11-15-2014, 11:59 AM
Forgot to tell you i'm every bit of 5'4' tall,,,or should i say ,,,short??:opps:

Then you're good to go!!
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Mexican
11-15-2014, 06:37 PM
Then you're good to go!!
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Had no idea that you could adjust the pegs!!, learn something new every day!!:)

GunDoctor
11-15-2014, 11:59 PM
Just returned from Long Beach, and got to ride the F3-S. Where do I start....just sitting on the bike immediately you know there is something really different about the Spyder from all the others. The sense of unity hits you. Like a coupler married up to its adjoining part. The comfort is awesome as well as a felling of stability. I haven't even started the bike yet and my expectations were exceeded. I've been a Harley rider for ever, but to feel really secure on this F3 isn't a sensation one gets from a two wheeler. After a short safety video and once around the coned off track, we were fitted to the F3 based on height. Really felt like it was made for my reach and comfort.



My girlfriend was right in front of me, which is how we always ride, but now I'm on a Spyder rather than my Harley. We headed out the parking lot single file and hit the streets. After a block or so we were clear of all the venue traffic and went over a huge bridge with moderate traffic, but then it opened up along with my throttle ...holy mother of flight... These 1330 are better than a shoulder adjustment from my chiropractor. I was truly surprised of the speed, even after reading the dozen or so comments of the performance and speed. Wow is all I can add to my endless grin for the next 30-45 minutes of cruising through Long Beach. The only mix feeling I have now is my decision to test ride it, now I have to wait for mine to come in knowing this is the most fun I have ever had on a bike. Been riding since I was 9 and have been on a bunch of different rides, but now' 50 years later this is the best riding experience I have ever had.



I also meet several members including Scotty Broad from Spyder Ryder Of America, Los Angeles Chapter. Looking forward to joining up.
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QFortune
11-16-2014, 12:38 PM
Thanks Dr. That's about as fair an honest an assessment as I've heard since they debut! Heading down today to check em out in person. I have a ride scheduled for the 21st at Del Amo but of course I'll see if I can squeeze in today who knows someone might get a hang nail and a space opens up!!! Lol


Ridding and modding my Spyder since 4-14... Lol

GunDoctor
11-16-2014, 12:58 PM
You will be happy you did. Lots of different demos from others. No entrance fee other than parking to do demos.

Chupaca
11-16-2014, 02:26 PM
for the cruiser it is a dream come true. I did not ryde one but sat on them at the IMS Long Beach show. Tried all the positions on the bars and pegs. Now for those of us with back and or other issues this is not the greatest. I for one do use my legs to help support my back I like being able to stand/lift out of the seat a bit on long rydes. I also use leg pressure on the pegs for cornering. I find the seating on the F3 limiting this range of motion. Mind you this is only my view...:thumbup:

GunDoctor
11-22-2014, 01:38 AM
Some nice floor boards would give the Ryder some foot placement options.

Flash Gordon
11-22-2014, 07:33 PM
Some nice floor boards would give the Ryder some foot placement options.

They have floor boards as an option. In fact the F3 has more BRP options than any other models. IMHO

GunDoctor
11-22-2014, 07:40 PM
Saw them when I was comparing the Sena communications in BRP 2015 accessory catalog ...$500 I think for factory floor board, which is just a extended foot peg...ridiculous.

dndfindley
11-23-2014, 11:08 PM
Went to the Texas Long Horn rally and had the chance to sit on one, i guess i'm used to the standard riding position because i did not like the crusier like posture, also my wife said that the front looks like a lawn mower:yikes:
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Both you and your wife are correct.

Dkerr
11-24-2014, 12:32 AM
Rode an F3-S last Thursday in Temecula. Wow!! Loved the seating position, and performance was incredible!! Handled much better than my 2009 RS, which I have been working on to turn it into a ST...adding Madstad windshield, Custom Dynamics 3.5" risers, Rivco floorboards and heel-toe shifter, Baja Ron swaybar, BRP sport rack and passenger backrest, and custom seat from Robbin's Upholstery in Victorville. Engine mods, only NGK Iridium plugs, Baja Ron's ignition wires, and K&N filter.


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cptjam
11-24-2014, 04:20 AM
Forward controls, not for me.
Saddle puts me on my tailbone, not for me.
No windshield. Not for me.
Power to weight, bigger sprocket, performance. Yay!
Storage: poor. Small. Not for me.
Ride and handling: crisp! Yay!
Price point: insane!
Accessories: Beyond insane!
In regular motorcycle world, in comparison, meh.
In three wheeled cruiser world, fantastic! Pricey, but great. No compare. Is the RT a better machine? Yes! For comfort, distance, storage, the RT is better. For folks who want a cruiser, pick the F3. Cool hot rod, just not a traveling machine. JMHO, Joe

PMK
11-24-2014, 04:52 AM
Forward controls, not for me.
Saddle puts me on my tailbone, not for me.
No windshield. Not for me.
Power to weight, bigger sprocket, performance. Yay!
Storage: poor. Small. Not for me.
Ride and handling: crisp! Yay!
Price point: insane!
Accessories: Beyond insane!
In regular motorcycle world, in comparison, meh.
In three wheeled cruiser world, fantastic! Pricey, but great. No compare. Is the RT a better machine? Yes! For comfort, distance, storage, the RT is better. For folks who want a cruiser, pick the F3. Cool hot rod, just not a traveling machine. JMHO, Joe

Need to see and sit on an F3 in person. Overall though, just based on comments here, I would tend to agree with the above post I quoted.

I did notice in the just arrived issue of Motorcyclist, the write up was kind but they scored it as a 6 out of 10.

PK